My games need me to place the iPad (regardless of size) on my lap or table, is that still ok/better? (I was not sure what you mean by being hard to hold; are you referring to handling the iPad like an iPhone/handheld game consoles?)
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Rethinking the 12.9 Pro
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My games need me to place the iPad (regardless of size) on my lap or table, is that still ok/better? (I was not sure what you mean by being hard to hold; are you referring to handling the iPad like an iPhone/handheld game consoles?)
MFI support for the Smart Keyboard???
Just get you a MFI controller like the Nimbus or Horipad, I've got both.. one for me and the other for family.
The 12.9 iPP is not really meant for handheld gaming... when I first bought my iPP I got the Nimbus along with it.
I prefer to stick to my music games found in games arcades (yes, we have them!) or in iOS
Also, I can't play certain games especially FPSes, they will cause motion sickness to me
I agree it's the last thing on apples mind. Thus, they should stop pushing the iPad Pro as a laptop replacement.
On one hand they say a touch mac would be terrible.
On the other hand, they push the iPad Pro as a laptop replacement that you know, has no mouse or track pad and you have to touch. Seems very contradictory to me.
Not really. Ergonomically the Smart Keyboard does not push the screen as far away as e.g. a MacBook does, exactly because there is no trackpad. It's much closer to your face and your hands, so touching it is actually easier. The slim profile of the Smart Keyboard helps as well.
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You talking about like 4 inches max for the track pad. I don't see how that make all the difference in using a touch screen or not.
You need to think in terms of percentages. 4 inches reach (probably more considering the slim keyboard) is probably a 50% reduction in the distance you need to reach to touch the screen.
percentage of reduction has nothing to do with that fact that 4 inches is not making a huge difference in reach. If we were talking about young children with arms of a foot of less maybe but full grown adults it will make no noticeable difference. I would be like saying I can't reach my radio if my gear shift is in the middle of the car.
Sure it does. Think about - if you repeatedly reach for the screen, you're reducing 50% of the distance you have to reach each time. And honestly, the distance is closer to 6", as e.g. compared to the 15" MacBook Pro I'm using now to type. It's not trivial. It is much easier to touch the screen with the iPad Pro (and arguably any of the foldable Windows tablets that don't have a keyboard / trackpad when propped up) than when you have a large keyboard + trackpad + speakers / air vent in the way.
Here are some pictures showing some actual measurements. I also measured my arm it was 30" from fingertip to shoulder. With those measurements I can't see how you think it's that much harder to reach a screen without those 4 inches. Sure you take out the track pad and it's closer so easier to reach but with it there it is by no means impossible to reach (not even really hard in my opinion)
Well if you count the gap between the top of the keyboard at the base of the screen it is almost 6", not 4".
The percentages still matter. In your photo, the edge of the MacBook Pro is 10" from the base of the screen. Presumably you'd want to restrict your arc of motion to that 10" for comfort.
You're already essentially proving my point... the arc of motion on a 12.9" MacBook Pro would be... let's be generous, 5" or 50% off. That's a huge reduction. Have you actually used the 12.9" iPad Pro? I can touch the screen with it and the smart keyboard attached without lifting my arm off the table. That is a big difference.
The percentages still matter. In your photo, the edge of the MacBook Pro is 10" from the base of the screen. Presumably you'd want to restrict your arc of motion to that 10" for comfort.
You're already essentially proving my point... the arc of motion on a 12.9" MacBook Pro would be... let's be generous, 5" or 50% off. That's a huge reduction. Have you actually used the 12.9" iPad Pro? I can touch the screen with it and the smart keyboard attached without lifting my arm off the table. That is a big difference.
I think I see where are misunderstanding is coming from now. I'm ok taking my arm off a table to reach something you are not I get it now
Yeah this is a big difference for me. I would assume it's a concern if you have to repeatedly raise and lower your arm from the table to touch the screen to navigate and interact with it. This is essentially where the whole "gorilla arm" paradigm originates from - https://www.wired.com/2010/10/gorilla-arm-multitouch/
I just tried it myself to touch my 15" screen... maybe for the occasional interaction, but having to do it for something as simple as scrolling - I'd take a trackpad anyday.
I find myself touching the screen every couple weeks without thinking about it and my wife does it every time she uses my MacBook Pro. It must just be a difference
in how we operate.
You actually prove my point. An apple tablet running macOS would benefit from all you said.
Its contradictory because apple says no, yet pushes the lap top replacement in the ipad pro that you have to touch.
What? Are you moving the goalposts just to win the argument
? Nowhere did your original post talk about the operating system. That is separate discussion. If the discussion is what would make the iPad Pro more "pro", I'd definitely agree that software is more critical than hardware at this point. The dearth of functionally-equivalent iOS apps compared to macOS apps is definitely something that holds back the iPad Pro from being a full laptop replacement, particularly in engineering jobs.
There have been rumours that Apple will add more features for the iPad Pro, for example they are said to be working on allowing people to annotate using Apple Pencil within Safari, Mail and the messages app. Personally I think that would be a great feature for iOS 11.
I don't think that is the case. They have stated that macOS is not made for touch and would be terrible to use on a large screen such as the iMac. Touch on iOS works. All of the elements are made for touch. And who is to say what does or doesn't constitute as a "laptop replacement"? If someone can effectively use only an iPad as their computer, then it fits the bill. This argument is very simple. Everyone has different uses. Pick the device that works best for you.
What? Are you moving the goalposts just to win the argument
Not moving any goal posts. Go back and re-read my comment. I was always speaking of apple never making a Mac touch OS yet pushing a touch device as a laptop replacement.
Why 12.9 if there is no professional apps Surface Pro always better with a lot of professional apps.
I think it's rather inefficient to have a tablet with that usage, I mean a Surfacebook or MacBook Pro are what I'd get if I was doing that level of "Pro" work. Anything less the iPad Pro is rather excellent.
Depends what you mean by professional, there are Adobe apps on the iPad Pro, iMovie can also edit 4K footage so it's not slouch but it can't run full desktop OS apps because it's not meant to, it's not a hybrid like the Surface is.