Rethinking the 12.9 Pro

[gobikerider]

Yah

Depends what you mean by professional, there are Adobe apps on the iPad Pro, iMovie can also edit 4K footage so it's not slouch but it can't run full desktop OS apps because it's not meant to, it's not a hybrid like the Surface is.

the surface is sorta dumb because they act like it's a tablet but for any real programs it's pc version entirely is not optimized for the smaller screen or touch input. Yah it can do more stuff but it does it rather inefficiently, maybe I'm wrong but I sure couldn't do photoshop or cad on that small screen.

 

[Dave245]

Yah

the surface is sorta dumb because they act like it's a tablet but for any real programs it's pc version entirely is not optimized for the smaller screen or touch input. Yah it can do more stuff but it does it rather inefficiently, maybe I'm wrong but I sure couldn't do photoshop or cad on that small screen.

I agree, I'm not a Surcace fan I'm against the idea of Apple doing a hybrid I think the iPad Pro is great but they could add more Pro features in IOS 11. It's the same as a touch screen Mac I'm not a fan of the idea. I have both Mac and iPad Pro and I love them both I don't see the need to combine them.

 

[gobikerider]

I agree, I'm not a Surcace fan I'm against the idea of Apple doing a hybrid I think the iPad Pro is great but they could add more Pro features in IOS 11. It's the same as a touch screen Mac I'm not a fan of the idea. I have both Mac and iPad Pro and I love them both I don't see the need to combine them.

I agree the iOS 11 hopefully will tackle some of the issues people have had with iPad Pro. I hate how every laptop is trying to be a kitchen sink with all the features that are entirely unnecessary, and then surprise they didn't get the basics right and the battery life's abysmal and performance is subpar.

 

[Mathias Denichi]

Yah

the surface is sorta dumb because they act like it's a tablet but for any real programs it's pc version entirely is not optimized for the smaller screen or touch input. Yah it can do more stuff but it does it rather inefficiently, maybe I'm wrong but I sure couldn't do photoshop or cad on that small screen.

Right now, both are lacking in what they could be.

The surface, for my work, would generally be better; however, the bad battery life, wifi sleeping issues, near to no ecosystem, and lack of LTE keeps me from switching.

The iPad Pro issues are with the maximum app size, a file system that requires multiple saves and copying of a file, and bad use of UI space on a large screen.

Apple will be the winner of the pro tablet space if they can find a way to separate the iPad Pro only apps from the standard iPad and iPhone apps. Developers then can increase App sizes, allowing the iPad Pro to fully take advantage of a full robust program. Being tied down by old, or smaller iOS devices is holding the iPad Pro back.

 

[Dave245]

Right now, both are lacking in what they could be.

The surface, for my work, would generally be better; however, the bad battery life, wifi sleeping issues, near to no ecosystem, and lack of LTE keeps me from switching.

The iPad Pro issues are with the maximum app size, file system that require multiple saves and copying of a file, and general use of UI space on a large screen hamper it.

Apple will be the winner of the pro tablet space if they can find a way to separate the iPad Pro apps from the standard iPad and iPhone apps. Developers then can increase App sizes, allowing the iPad Pro to fully take advantage of a full robust program. Being tied down by old, or smaller iOS devices is holding the iPad Pro back.

Could that be why they are stopping support for 32bit apps later this year? Maybe more Pro apps will be incoming with a better file system. I think they will have heard the feedback on this. Also there are rumours that Apple are working on adding more Pro features shuch as being able to annotate within Safari, Mail, messages and so on I think it will get better over time.

 

[gobikerider]

Right now, both are lacking in what they could be.

The surface, for my work, would generally be better; however, the bad battery life, wifi sleeping issues, near to no ecosystem, and lack of LTE keeps me from switching.

The iPad Pro issues are with the maximum app size, file system that require multiple saves and copying of a file, and general use of UI space on a large screen hamper it.

Apple will be the winner of the pro tablet space if they can find a way to separate the iPad Pro only apps from the standard iPad and iPhone apps. Developers then can increase App sizes, allowing the iPad Pro to fully take advantage of a full robust program. Being tied down by old, or smaller iOS devices is holding the iPad Pro back.

Yah I'm hoping that Apple introduces and paired back Finder for iOS 11, something that can just organize all your files within different apps and then also allowing simplified selecting and moving files, and then apps can support it with a simple new API. Apple could easily do this without having to give the user any system access like on MacOS, this isn't a real file system more akin to a new app that can plug into other apps, like how the camera app plugs into apps, apps could just ask, hey allow us to use Finder to organize your files.

 

[Mathias Denichi]

Could that be why they are stopping support for 32bit apps later this year? Maybe more Pro apps will be incoming with a better file system. I think they will have heard the feedback on this. Also there are rumours that Apple are working on adding more Pro features shuch as being able to annotate within Safari, Mail, messages and so on I think it will get better over time.

That would make sense and would be great. The 64bit architecture allows programs to then use over the 3.50 ram that 32 bit is restricted to. Since the iPad Pro 12.9 has 4 gb of ram.
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Yah I'm hoping that Apple introduces and paired back Finder for iOS 11, something that can just organize all your files within different apps and then also allowing simplified selecting and moving files, and then apps can support it with a simple new API. Apple could easily do this without having to give the user any system access like on MacOS, this isn't a real file system more akin to a new app that can plug into other apps, like how the camera app plugs into apps, apps could just ask, hey allow us to use Finder to organize your files.

Well, iCloud Drive is obviously going to be the iPads modern version of a file system. That's how I currently use it. To avoid all the copying and importing, future apps will just have to pull directly and update directly to and from iCloud Drive. I see this coming fairly soon.

 

[gobikerider]

Something has

That would make sense and would be great. The 64bit architecture allows programs to then use over the 3.50 ram that 32 bit is restricted to. Since the iPad Pro 12.9 has 4 gb of ram.
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Well, iCloud Drive is obviously going to be the iPads modern version of a file system. That's how I currently use it. To avoid all the copying and importing, future apps will just have to pull directly and update directly to and from iCloud Drive. I see this coming fairly soon.

to change the current implementation of iCloud Drive is rather awful

 

[JD2015]

1. Would like to see the ability to drag and drop files in split screen for example.
2. Ability annotate in safari directly and better screenshot options like seen in Samsung's products.
3. Ability to hook up to USB drives directly to transfer to and from files, media etc. It is a hassle to do this as it stands especially if they are not wifi enabled.
4. Onscreen keyboard improvements like adding ctrl key which would then allow on screen keyboard shortcuts.
5. Add in options for apps, for those wanting ability to do more high end work. Simple example is adding a table of contents, citations, in pages.
6. Comparing features of apps compared to their desktop form. This is available on some developer sites already but allows you to easily compare what is best for you.
7. Link up one or more iPads at once so you can increase screen space and productivity.

 

[Donka]

Still amazed the likes of Astropad and Duet Display are not baked into iOS as it seems such an obvious integration point between iOS and Mac. Hopefully coming.

 

[Kostas3000]

1. Would like to see the ability to drag and drop files in split screen for example.
2. Ability annotate in safari directly and better screenshot options like seen in Samsung's products.
3. Ability to hook up to USB drives directly to transfer to and from files, media etc. It is a hassle to do this as it stands especially if they are not wifi enabled.
4. Onscreen keyboard improvements like adding ctrl key which would then allow on screen keyboard shortcuts.
5. Add in options for apps, for those wanting ability to do more high end work. Simple example is adding a table of contents, citations, in pages.
6. Comparing features of apps compared to their desktop form. This is available on some developer sites already but allows you to easily compare what is best for you.
7. Link up one or more iPads at once so you can increase screen space and productivity.

great ideas
check some similar suggestions from me
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/ideas-to-improve-the-sales-of-ipad.2042041/

 

[Essaux]

As a professional photographer the single reason to buy an iPad would be to be able to use it to tether too and be able to load RAW files and edit them on the go and export as Raw or TIFF as well.

Now, as far as I know, it's not possible or it's sluggish at best and there need to be workaround methods applied to make it happen.

That too me doesn't make sense. If it only allows for basic retouching and management it's just a glorified normal ipad.

 

[Cosmo M3]

As a professional photographer the single reason to buy an iPad would be to be able to use it to tether too and be able to load RAW files and edit them on the go and export as Raw or TIFF as well.

Now, as far as I know, it's not possible or it's sluggish at best and there need to be workaround methods applied to make it happen.

That too me doesn't make sense. If it only allows for basic retouching and management it's just a glorified normal ipad.

I don't feel that it's sluggish, especially if I use the Lightning to SD Card reader on the 12.9 (it reads much faster at USB 3.0 speeds on the bigger iPad Pro).

I also edit RAW on the go and I have no issues using Adobe LR.

 

[sallenthornton]

As a professional photographer the single reason to buy an iPad would be to be able to use it to tether too and be able to load RAW files and edit them on the go and export as Raw or TIFF as well.

Now, as far as I know, it's not possible or it's sluggish at best and there need to be workaround methods applied to make it happen.

That too me doesn't make sense. If it only allows for basic retouching and management it's just a glorified normal ipad.

I know a few photographers who say that having an iPad available for families to view their portfolio has been a valuable tool. All of my realtor friends rave about having an iPad available when prospective clients want to view properties.

 

[Kal-037]

IF they do an updated 12.9, I just want: P3 Cinema color standard, haptic Home Button, and the A10X Fusion or A11X Processor.


Kallum.

 

[Essaux]

I know a few photographers who say that having an iPad available for families to view their portfolio has been a valuable tool. All of my realtor friends rave about having an iPad available when prospective clients want to view properties.

Nothing wrong to have an iPad to view a portfolio, but there is nothing "pro" about that.

To me the "pro" moniker must provide us with something valuable for the professional, which in my case means: on the go, tethering, loading images and apply retouching to raw files, export these files again. All things one usually does on a laptop one carries around to jobs.

But, the poster below mentions there are possibilities to do it now on an iPad (pro).

I don't feel that it's sluggish, especially if I use the Lightning to SD Card reader on the 12.9 (it reads much faster at USB 3.0 speeds on the bigger iPad Pro).

I also edit RAW on the go and I have no issues using Adobe LR.

 

[PrettyWings]

In my first post, I said I used to think the 12.9 Pro was a giant Candy Crush interface. Once I saw it being used, I knew I had to have one. The screen-size is perfect.

 

[Defender2010]

In my first post, I said I used to think the 12.9 Pro was a giant Candy Crush interface. Once I saw it being used, I knew I had to have one. The screen-size is perfect.

Before I purchased mine I thought the same. I do a lot of graphic design work on it and it's paid for itself 10 times over. It's the best Apple product I've owned even besides this. Using the pencil on a screen this size is a joy and I'm eager to see what comes next for this size iPad Pro.

 

[PrettyWings]

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Before I purchased mine I thought the same. I do a lot of graphic design work on it and it's paid for itself 10 times over. It's the best Apple product I've owned even besides this. Using the pencil on a screen this size is a joy and I'm eager to see what comes next for this size iPad Pro.

If it was 9.7 then I'd probably take out my computer more often.