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Apple will have moved on to 8K no, I mean 9.3K (just to be different) calling it something like "super duper ultra magical retina" or similar. After all if "retina" was supposed to be the limit of what human eyes can resolve, going way beyond that is important for the superior-eyed Raptors that buy iMacs... or a higher resolution number just sounds better.

And waiting for thunderbolt 3 will just bump up against rumors of thunderbolt 4.

;)

Yeah, I get the snark. :D

But I'm just not buying one of these until Apple works out how to implement these as secondary monitors (like I can with my existing iMac). And that requires more bandwidth than Thunderbolt 2 can currently deliver.
 
While some of my clients have had tremendous success with refurbs more have had serious issues. Remember, it was refurbished usually for a SERIOUS problem to begin with and it really is a crap shoot in the end. Good luck if saving a few bucks up front is worth the potential headaches you might get with a refurb.

This or people wised up and wanted their money back. Either Apple makes unreliable junk or people did not like the product. What other reasons are there if the product has been on the market for about 6 months? Websites have hyped this product so much the fairy dust starts to wear off within 14 days after they use it.
Just wait until Apple implements a restocking fee on these products. And I wouldn't be surprised if the same happens to the Apple watch. People will rent for a few days and decide if it's worth the high price. So my forecast for the watch is high reported sales but a unknown number of refurbs; as usual.
 
Great chance at a good price, but I can't help but reflect on how quick refurbs hit the store. Makes me wonder about the return rate - quality issues, etc.? Maybe just too many pixels for the average joe? haha

This is fairly common. When Apple has released new MacBooks in October, they usually appear in the refurbished store shortly after the holidays.
 
More likely Christmas gifts returned.

And a lot of times people get a 27" home and decide it is too big for the desk.

Or too big for the credit card balance... LOL

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I did. As best as I was able in the Apple Store I gave it and the conventional iMac a side by side A/B test. Sure, the Retina iMac looked fabulous in the Finder, but in reality the higher res won't do many users a lot of good in apps that don't support it. I discussed this with the Apple rep on the floor and he confirmed that, in reality, few apps do, so for most purposes the effective resolution of the Retina iMac is the same as the conventional res iMac.

Those extra pixels in Lightroom are fan-freakin-tastic. :cool:
 
While some of my clients have had tremendous success with refurbs more have had serious issues. Remember, it was refurbished usually for a SERIOUS problem to begin with and it really is a crap shoot in the end. Good luck if saving a few bucks up front is worth the potential headaches you might get with a refurb.

I buy refurb whenever possible (and would have waited for a refurb 5K iMac if not for financing considerations) and have yet to encounter any quality or cosmetic issues.

If anything, I expect a refurbished unit is a "safer bet" because if it was returned for an issue, that issue was repaired and then explicitly tested.
 
Not a bad deal, but I'll bite when it's below $2000.

Side note, I DID get a great deal on the middle Mac Mini (2.6Ghz) 2 nights ago though Apple's refurb site. They popped up for $589, and within an hour of me purchasing they were gone.
 
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A refurb in most cases is in better shape than a new one since bugs (if any) were taken care of. For $150 that savings can matter to a lot of people, Probably not you since you're so rich. :rolleyes:

HAHAH. What a spin, are you sure you don't work Apple's PR department?

I guess let's be serious for a moment. If people are considered "refurbished" items to be "better shape than a new one"... then there is a problem with Apple's QC.
 
Referees are ok

I purchased a late 2013 Imac 27" in Jan of 2014. I am typing on it now and it has been issue free since I plugged it in. I keep my machines on 24x7
Since I qualify to purchase from the education store there really is only about a 200.00 difference on the Refurbished models. I am waiting for a core 7 to pop up with the 4gb video card as I am assuming it will come in handy in the future when the high resolution can be unitized.
 
only 3 months ....:apple:

Well done Apple.

Seems thank to Apple's blunt Apple store conditions, u can be two weeks old and it would still appear on the refub store, just after a return. Apple did this,, they deal with the consequences of cheaper price.

I did this all the time with a up to date mac, iphone, etc....
 
A Bargain!!

And 5k display!? 4K isnt event the norm yet! :eek:

I wish these displays allowed external inputs though. Reason I sold my 27" iMac was because I couldn't use it as a monitor. If I could (without modification) I would literally use the damn thing until it died most probably.
 
A Bargain!!

And 5k display!? 4K isnt event the norm yet! :eek:

It's true... Apple wants to make sure it's ahead by a wide margin....... Since, no one told Apple, u will never be watching native 5k content anyway...nowdays.
 
You're less likely to get a defective model through Apple refurbished
I agree, I'm pretty sure somebody actually looks at refurbs. The new ones I'm not so sure about.

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Uncle Sam would like to have a word with you. Your Use Tax is due.
I believe Use Tax is a state tax, at least the one I pay quarterly is.
 
Can confirm. My 2012 15" rMBP has an LG panel and ghosting issues. I don't let it bother me and a replacement would have been a lucky dip. But Apple need to get better with their displays. I was really hoping the 5K iMac wouldn't suffer the same fate, clearly it has.

I had a 2012 rMBP display with an image retention problem replaced once under warranty. The replacement was just fine.

"I turned out all the lights, turned the brightness up to max, filled the screen with a back rectangle, took a 5-second exposure with my camera and you can clearly see the light bleed."

Just keep in mind I can see it with normal use. It's not so bad that I can't live with it.

Nice but I didn't see the highest end model.

Are you referring to the M295X GPU? Yes, the lack of it is a bit odd...
 
While some of my clients have had tremendous success with refurbs more have had serious issues. Remember, it was refurbished usually for a SERIOUS problem to begin with and it really is a crap shoot in the end. Good luck if saving a few bucks up front is worth the potential headaches you might get with a refurb.

Apple has a generous returns policy in the first 14 days. I imagine it's mainly people that decided they actually needed a different product or realised they couldn't now pay the rent.
 
If some people are holding off on the riMac solely because it cannot be used (eventually) in target display mode:

If you are thinking that after the computer's useful life to you (2-5 years) is over, and you cannot use it for a 27" retina display, how about selling it at that time and using the $ to buy a dedicated display? Probably break about even at that time?

Just a thought
 
Providing a proper amount of screen real estate for a 27" display while maintaining pixel perfection is far more important than following a meaningless norm.

4K would be a good fit for a Retina 21.5" iMac though.

It's basically a 100% guarantee the 21.5" iMac will become 4K just like the Retina MacBook Pro 13" did.
4K is a doubling of iMac's current 1080p res
 
Can confirm. My 2012 15" rMBP has an LG panel and ghosting issues. I don't let it bother me and a replacement would have been a lucky dip. But Apple need to get better with their displays. I was really hoping the 5K iMac wouldn't suffer the same fate, clearly it has.

I'm historically in total agreement about lg panels in past years, but I have to admit it seems LG may have finally started to up their game in the last year or so. Perhaps Aaple has put a match under their butts, but it seems like the panels LG are putting out recently have been pretty decent - in the iMacs, ipads, and even their own TVs. Of course, I could be totally wrong, but I feel like giving them another chance to get it right.

Anyone else feel things have improved with LG?
 
I had a 2012 rMBP display with an image retention problem replaced once under warranty. The replacement was just fine.

I've no doubt that was the case for you. However I've heard stories of people having to have up to 4 replacements until they were given one with a Samsung display. My MacBook Pro is out of warranty now and I don't have Apple Care. This is something I'll just have to live with from now on.

I have it hooked up to an external monitor most of the time now anyway, so it's not something I really have to put up with often. Even then, I don't let it bother me. ;)
 
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