Can confirm. My 2012 15" rMBP has an LG panel and ghosting issues. I don't let it bother me and a replacement would have been a lucky dip. But Apple need to get better with their displays. I was really hoping the 5K iMac wouldn't suffer the same fate, clearly it has.
Retina 5K iMac Models Now Available From Apple's Online Refurbished Store
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Can confirm. My 2012 15" rMBP has an LG panel and ghosting issues. I don't let it bother me and a replacement would have been a lucky dip. But Apple need to get better with their displays. I was really hoping the 5K iMac wouldn't suffer the same fate, clearly it has.
Thunderhawks
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Now, make that size a MacBook Pro, so I can take it with me at night and we are good
Done with Desktop models!
Done with Desktop models!
Apple will have moved on to 8K no, I mean 9.3K (just to be different) calling it something like "super duper ultra magical retina" or similar. After all if "retina" was supposed to be the limit of what human eyes can resolve, going way beyond that is important for the superior-eyed Raptors that buy iMacs... or a higher resolution number just sounds better.
And waiting for thunderbolt 3 will just bump up against rumours of thunderbolt 4.
Thought we're skipping 9.3K for 15K.
15 is a good number.
AppleInLVX
macrumors 65816
I'm happy with mine... never had an issue.
Tangentially, I've noticed that collectively, we apple geeks are so hyperfocused on these details that it can be a real problem when it comes to skewing perception. Honestly, what's the return rate? How many silent, perfectly happy people out there for every one who had an axe to grind because of a bad panel?
I'd say you're *far* more likely to get a perfectly good unit than the other way around. Apple couldn't do business otherwise.
I have a base model. It's not really the hardware but the software overall doesn't seem to be fully polished yet. My base model is very quick for most things but it lags in a few odd non intensive tasks which is leading me to believe it's software related.
I have no regrets on the purchase
handsome pete
macrumors 68000
We're still a ways away from widespread 4K adoption. 8K only presents more of the same problems with adoption. Any sort of 8K "standard" is even further away.
No, they don't.
Glad to hear that the setup is working for you...could you give us a hint of what tasks you use the imac for?
I am wondering because I am sceptical, that the combination of ultra high resolution and mobile hardware components is up to deal with editing high res video and images smoothly...plus (maybe as a bonusquestion), if you do any gaming on that maschine...how do scaled games look (as no games I play or know of support 5k resolution)?
You Feedback will be greatly appreciated
rickdollar
macrumors 6502
Apple will have moved on to 8K no, I mean 9.3K (just to be different) calling it something like "super duper ultra magical retina" or similar. After all if "retina" was supposed to be the limit of what human eyes can resolve, going way beyond that is important for the superior-eyed Raptors that buy iMacs... or a higher resolution number just sounds better.
And waiting for thunderbolt 3 will just bump up against rumors of thunderbolt 4.
To make sure I buy the best computer with the newest stuff and the fewest bugs, I'm going to wait to make the purchase until just before I die.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
super duper ultra magical retina 2?
"Beyond what Raptors eyes can resolve!"
"It would take a new species with vision far beyond any living creature on earth..."
...and of course...
"thinner"
Though I'm not surprised to see this iMac in the refurb store already I highly doubt the return rate is high. This iMac is very expensive so it's not going to get a lot of sales right away.
Macboy Pro
macrumors 6502a
Wow, who would buy a refurb (the one someone else didn't want for some reason or another) for $150 more than and a new one from a reseller, AND HAVE TO PAY TAX?
Apple know how to put up a showroom for their products in their stores but they have no idea how to offer incentives and deals.
Apple know how to put up a showroom for their products in their stores but they have no idea how to offer incentives and deals.
You know absolutely nothing about refurbs do you? They can come from customers simply having buyer's remorse. Nothing has to be wrong with them but once something is opened it has to be refurbished. Most companies that offer refurbs do business this way.
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A refurb in most cases is in better shape than a new one since bugs (if any) were taken care of. For $150 that savings can matter to a lot of people, Probably not you since you're so rich.
IJ Reilly
macrumors P6
I did. As best as I was able in the Apple Store I gave it and the conventional iMac a side by side A/B test. Sure, the Retina iMac looked fabulous in the Finder, but in reality the higher res won't do many users a lot of good in apps that don't support it. I discussed this with the Apple rep on the floor and he confirmed that, in reality, few apps do, so for most purposes the effective resolution of the Retina iMac is the same as the conventional res iMac.
theluggage
macrumors G3
"What do you mean it won't run Word 5.1?"
"I changed my mind and want the i7."
"I wanted a heated trouser press, I must have clicked the wrong link."
"I turned out all the lights, turned the brightness up to max, filled the screen with a back rectangle, took a 5-second exposure with my camera and you can clearly see the light bleed."
"It doesn't work. No, I can't check that its plugged in because its dark and the power's out, you idiot!"
"The picture is upside down and I can't get the stand to work properly"
"My dog won't stop barking at it, and his analyst says that it is stressing him".
"I tried to deliver the package but the gate was shut and the box was too heavy to throw over the fence"
"Well, no, officer, its not technically my credit card, but after I found it a guy in the bar said that if nobody claims it after 30 days I could keep it."
"It was fine to start with but I read an article on Mac Rumors that said they suffered from fan noise and now I get a headache every time I use it."
"My partner found out."
gnasher729
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That's the best one.
There is actually scientific evidence that while cell towers don't affect your health, the _belief_ that there is a cell tower turned on nearby _does_ affect it. So as stupid as it seems, it will happen in real life.
iSee
macrumors 68040
Retina MacBook Pros have been out for two and a half years... I'm surprised Retina support is still so rare.
OriginalMacRat
macrumors 6502a
More likely Christmas gifts returned.
And a lot of times people get a 27" home and decide it is too big for the desk.
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Aluminum213
macrumors 68040
Using forum posts as evidence of proof
Wow, I've seen it all
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MacBook pros aren't affordable for most people, MacBook air is still by far more popular so it will be some time before developers all bother to support retina
WestonHarvey1
macrumors 68030
Apple doesn't consider most screen issues to be defects. You're probably more likely to get a bad screen on a refurb because they will represent many Macs returned for that reason.
IJ Reilly
macrumors P6
Not sure if it's rare, but certainly far from universal. Does someone keep a list? That would be a useful resource for anyone contemplating investing in a Retina iMac.
Edit: Answering my own question, this site supposedly does the deed, if you can stand to look at it:
https://retinamacapps.com
Michaelgtrusa
macrumors 604
Nice but I didn't see the highest end model.
rdlink
macrumors 68040
That's kind of BS, to be honest. Refurbs go through a process to bring them back to factory specs before they're sold again. So any defects are addressed. Also, refurbs have a 1 year warranty, and are eligible for AppleCare.
I bought a 2010 27" iMac new, and a 2011 iMac refurbed in 2012. I have had no problems whatsoever with the refurb, and have basically had to have the entire interior of my 2010 replaced.