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A fair point, as there are third-party 24-inch panels with 3840x2160 resolution. Then again, because there are third-party options, that might preclude Apple from actively shipping one since it would only be usable as a standalone display (whereas they can use the same panel in the iMac and a 5K TBD).

Though honestly I would rather go with the LG UltraWide 34" at 3440 x 1440 than a 24" "retina" display.

Yeah I just saw that utra wide lg display and was gonna post that I hope apple makes a screen like that
 
Question. Can Current non retina 27" iMacs be used as an external monitor for a MacBook?

Yes, via Target Display Mode.

But a Thunderbolt Display is less expensive. ;)

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Apple's last concern is the Mac Pro. They know the market segment for that product will just deal with poor support and no updates, they have been for a long time.

:apple:

If that was true, they would not have bothered releasing the new design and just kept shilling the old CheeseGrater with CPU/GPU updates.
 
Yes, via Target Display Mode.

But a Thunderbolt Display is less expensive. ;)

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If that was true, they would not have bothered releasing the new design and just kept shilling the old CheeseGrater with CPU/GPU updates.

Not less expensive when you already have an iMac. ;)

Also, they could have allowed the 5k Retina iMac to run as external monitor at non-Retina resolution? (Basically x0.5)

Yeah. How dare they not break the laws of physic, or recall all existing products and retrofit them with 5K support.

Stupid stupid Apple

/s

see above, they could at least allow the old resolution of 2560*1440 to be used.

No Retina, because technically not possible? Sure, they're off the hook for that no question.
No support at all for a feature they had for many years at least at the performance that's possible with the existing hardware? Ouch.

Glassed Silver:mac
 
Also, they could have allowed the 5k Retina iMac to run as external monitor at non-Retina resolution? (Basically x0.5)

I could see Apple choosing not to do that to prevent people from buying it under the assumption it could be driven at the full 5K resolution by an external Mac.
 
Why doesn't Apple make a 37"-47", 5K display that integrates the Mac Pro into it? Call it the iMac Pro. Sell it for $7,000+ and I'm sure there would be people who would buy it.
 
Despite a few missteps, they've executed an upgrade to most of their products very impressively over the past few months. The full realization of this will become apparent over the next few months, at which point I'm confident that they will issue an update for their Mac Pro, as well as possibly updated Thunderbolt displays. But I think part of the holdup for this is Intel releasing new processors and finishing the next version of Thunderbolt. Point your finger at Intel if you are looking for someone to blame for the rate of progress.

Well first of all, Marco is wrong -- TB3, if the leaked slide from Intel is accurate, will continue to use DP 1.2, not 1.3, but will have a bandwidth of 40Gbps. That's enough to run a single 5k display @ 60hz. That is supposedly slated for release next year.

But let's say that Apple won't release a new Cinema Display until 2016. Then they should have released a 4k display in the interim. To make Mac Pro customers wait an additional two years to have an Apple product to use as a display is not only shameful, but dilutes the halo power of the Mac Pro that they worked so hard to create when they reintroduced it last year as the top dog of the Mac lineup.

But it's not surprising. Apple has been sending mixed signals to professional users about their importance to the company for quite a few years now.
 
It would work if they released a 24 inch version

Uh, no. 5K is 5K, whether in a 24" format or 27" format, it's the same number of pixels. What you probably meant, though I don't want to put words into your mouth, is it would work if they made a 4K display. I imagine they are looking at that and we could see a 4K Thunderbolt 2 display before we see support for Thunderbolt 3 and DisplayPort 1.3 from Intel (it's not an Apple hold-up).

However, if Apple were to release a 4K Thunderbolt display tomorrow and then introduce a 5K Thunderbolt Display in the next year (year and a half?) how would you feel about that? Personally, I'd be okay with that.
 
I'm not going to say 'applefail' or 'if steve was still alive'.
But it just seems like Apple is pretty smug lately, flipping the finger to the people who buy their stuff on the regular.
You own a Mac Pro? Our most expensive item? Look elsewhere for a monitor for it, we can't be bothered.
But look at how thin our ipad is!
 
Uh, no. 5K is 5K, whether in a 24" format or 27" format, it's the same number of pixels. What you probably meant, though I don't want to put words into your mouth, is it would work if they made a 4K display. I imagine they are looking at that and we could see a 4K Thunderbolt 2 display before we see support for Thunderbolt 3 and DisplayPort 1.3 from Intel (it's not an Apple hold-up).

However, if Apple were to release a 4K Thunderbolt display tomorrow and then introduce a 5K Thunderbolt Display in the next year (year and a half?) how would you feel about that? Personally, I'd be okay with that.
What I've read for it to be retina it must be on a 24 or 27 inch with 4 and 5k to look good.

I wouldn't mind if they released a 5k later on since my MacBook would not be able to run it
 
I don't know why people are having a go at this machine. It's the first 5k screen ever. It will take time before the rest of the product range is ready for this technology. But, right now you have an option to see it/use it. It's exactly what Apple were slated for not doing previously. They are not late to the market with this. They are currently leading the way. Now, people want it for their other devices minutes after seeing it and blame Apple for not providing this. Patience, it's in its way.

At a guess, I would say that this iMac is not suitable for external use, not only because of the limitations of the thunderbolt connectivity, but also because it is integrated with the computer inside to be able to sufficiently manage each pixel and power. A standalone display will probably include these things seperate to a computer.

Anyway, be impressed with it. It is truely worth being impressed by.
 
I find it daft they launch a 5k iMac but don't update the cinema displays. Perhaps they don't want to offer it anymore?

What would truly be daft is to launch a 5K display when no Mac currently can drive it, which may be the case at this time.
 
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