Retina Display Is Making Me Hate My iPad

donster28

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Ever since I got my iPhone 4, I just can't seem to go back to the iPad screen. It's like going from 1080p to 720p.

Anyways, just voicing this out. :)
 

Julien

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Ever since I got my iPhone 4, I just can't seem to go back to the iPad screen. It's like going from 1080p to 720p.

Anyways, just voicing this out. :)
Over 99% can't tell a 720P from 1080P on a 42" monitor at 8' or more (average viewing distance).:D As Don asked how are you dealing with your computer monitor?
 

dockingbay94

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I'm with you on this one. I was going to get the iPad for reading, but the iPhone 4 display just looks so much nicer using iBooks. I'll wait until the iPad gets a similar display in the future.
 

pelicanflip

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I'm with you on this one. I was going to get the iPad for reading, but the iPhone 4 display just looks so much nicer using iBooks. I'll wait until the iPad gets a similar display in the future.
LOL keep on waiting then. I highly doubt the iPad's getting a retina display anytime soon.

As for the comparison between the iPhone and the iPad, yes, the iPhone 4's retina display is impressive, but the iPad still does its job very nicely.
 

SatandCable

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is there any software that changes the iPad display to look like the Kindle? I find reading on the iPad really hurts my eyes after a while!
 

Compile 'em all

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Over 99% can't tell a 720P from 1080P on a 42" monitor at 8' or more (average viewing distance).:D As Don asked how are you dealing with your computer monitor?
I hope you are being sarcastic. You can even see the massive difference comparing an iPhone 4 side by side with a 3Gs. The retina display makes the screen on the 3Gs look like the monochrome screen of a gameboy.

To the OP, I feel kinda the same (may be not to the point where I hate my iPad), but boy do I feel the pixels looking at me.
 

tekchic

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is there any software that changes the iPad display to look like the Kindle? I find reading on the iPad really hurts my eyes after a while!
A Kindle uses E-Ink Technology: http://www.eink.com/technology/

*Completely* different from an IPS display, so no, software can't emulate a different technology.

Try different screen backgrounds, font sizes, etc. It still won't look like e-ink but it might help. I find that reading on my iPhone 4 is almost more fun than on the iPad because of the sharper display, but if I put the iPad in my lap and stop sticking it 4 inches from my face, it isn't as blurry ;)

I also have an e-ink reader (Sony Reader PRS-505) and I only use it for checking out library epub books now. Everything else I read on my iPhone 4 or iPad.
 

donster28

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Over 99% can't tell a 720P from 1080P on a 42" monitor at 8' or more (average viewing distance).:D As Don asked how are you dealing with your computer monitor?
I agree that the the 720p/1080p difference (on an average distance) is almost a non-issue, but the iPhone and the iPad are meant to be used up-close. My comparisson was based on normal distance usage of the 2 devices. I encourage everyone to do the same when comparing the two.

I have a 24" Samsung P2370 1080p monitor as my main one, and even it looks inferior to the iPhone's. This also goes with my Macbook Pro 13" Unibody. Any screen I come across with just throws bigger pixels at me for some strange reason! :(

Now I'm wanting an update to all my Macs...oh well.
 

donster28

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To the OP, I feel kinda the same (may be not to the point where I hate my iPad), but boy do I feel the pixels looking at me.
I guess I should not have said "hate' 'cause I still love it. But it's just feeling a little old everytime I use it. And yes, it feels like using a old gameboy screen after using the iPhone 4.
 

southernpaws

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I held off on getting an ipad, mostly due to money and not feeling it was particularly useful to me.

As it's taken off and I've seen the success and its applications, i could see it being really useful.

Now the only thing holding me back from getting an ipad is that my new phone has so much technology that's beyond the ipad, i feel like i'd be buying an ipad at the end of its product cycle. and it's a brand new device...

granted, i don't think it's cost efficient to get a retina display on a device the size of an ipad yet. but if i got an ipad, i'd want it to be a facetime device. and i'm sure there will be *some* advances on the display.

if it's any consolation, you will have enjoyed your ipad for months and months before i ever allow myself to own one. don't focus on how green my grass will be when the whole time you will have had grass and i won't have had any.
 

tmarks11

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Your eyesight must be better then mine; I can not make out individual pixels on my iPad when it is sitting on my lap.

Quit holding it so close to your face...
 

jamesryanbell

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Your eyesight must be better then mine; I can not make out individual pixels on my iPad when it is sitting on my lap.

Quit holding it so close to your face...
It's more about sharpness. I can't pick out pixels, but the text just looks sooooooo much better on iPhone. The instant that iPad comes out with retina display (although i think it'll be at least a couple of years), this one's going on eBay. Lol.
 

mattpreston11

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Even though everyone seems to love battering the OP I have to agree. The iPad screen looks really poor compared to my iPhones, and it does take away from the device somewhat.its like having power steering on your car, if you haven't got it you don't mind, but as soon as you get it and then go back, you wonder how you ever lived with it..
 

hcho3

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Macbook and Macbook Pro have even lower pixels per inch than ipad. So, do you hate ipad? Also, what do you want apple to do? Put retina display on ipad and surpass the resolution on 27 inch imac? Are you willing to pay 1000 dollars?
 

donster28

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Your eyesight must be better then mine; I can not make out individual pixels on my iPad when it is sitting on my lap.

Quit holding it so close to your face...
I think this is actually the issue: seeing the pixels on the iPad when used normaly (that is using it close to the face like most people do).

I am typing this on my iPad right now and let me tell you how blurry the fonts are compared to the iPhone 4's.

It's like seeing letters on an HDTV that has not been configured properly...they just seem so mushy and out of focus.
 

donster28

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Macbook and Macbook Pro have even lower pixels per inch than ipad. So, do you hate ipad? Also, what do you want apple to do? Put retina display on ipad and surpass the resolution on 27 inch imac? Are you willing to pay 1000 dollars?
Yes and yes. If technology needs to move forward, then im willing to pay more. But Im guessing that implementing the Retina technology on products will not cost a ton. I might be wrong here but based on the price of the iPhone 4, it should not cost an arm and a leg to produce.

I also like the fact that the LCD and glass are fused together on the iPhone 4. This is a great plus for me and to those who hate getting dust under their glass screens. Im hoping this will be implemented on all Apple products with LCDs.
 

iMouse

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I also like the fact that the LCD and glass are fused together on the iPhone 4. This is a great plus for me and to those who hate getting dust under their glass screens. Im hoping this will be implemented on all Apple products with LCDs.
This was also the case with the 1st generation iPhone. The glass and the digitizer were glued together. While it would suck to shatter a 1st gen or iPhone 4 screen, the clarity of the screen over the years remains the same as no air or debris can circulate between the screen and the digitizer.
 

Julien

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Over 99% can't tell a 720P from 1080P on a 42" monitor at 8' or more (average viewing distance).:D As Don asked how are you dealing with your computer monitor?
I hope you are being sarcastic. You can even see the massive difference comparing an iPhone 4 side by side with a 3Gs. The retina display makes the screen on the 3Gs look like the monochrome screen of a gameboy...
What are you reading in my post:confused: I didn't say anything about iPhone 4 or 3G. I was simply pointing out to the OP that it was not a good analogue. How did you completely miss that and draw a conclusion that I wasn't impressed with the Retina?:eek: I'm extremely impressed with the Retina and it's use on a 3.5" screen to make it "larger" than it is. However I still love my iPad screen too.
 

melman101

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Now, I don't personally use an iPhone 4 but my wife owns one. I have the iPhone 3GS. Anyhow, point being, I know what your talking about, but the ipad still has a ridiculously insane display. And to those who will wait for a retina display, prepare to wait for a long time. The 13" MacBook pro only has 1280x800 resolution.

Personally, I don't think we will see a retina in iPad for at least 2-3 product cycles. That's just my personal guess.
 

Coukos34

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Yes and yes. If technology needs to move forward, then im willing to pay more. But Im guessing that implementing the Retina technology on products will not cost a ton. I might be wrong here but based on the price of the iPhone 4, it should not cost an arm and a leg to produce.

I also like the fact that the LCD and glass are fused together on the iPhone 4. This is a great plus for me and to those who hate getting dust under their glass screens. Im hoping this will be implemented on all Apple products with LCDs.
I guess people don't understand that larger screens that scale to be "retina quality", are unrealistic in regards to cost. I don't think you realize that the cost of the panel alone is not the only problem. The other problem is driving all those pixels, and not to mention lasting10 hours while doing it.

That said, the iPad could use some more resolution (maybe a small bump). I just dont see it happening soon, and i don't expect anything near "retina quality" for quite awhile.
 
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