Ouch.. lol you sure do get pretty upset over a thread. I guess sorry for bringing it up? And I would search this, if this was an actual issue. I was simply trying to express my feelings towards the whole retina display situation, and see how other people feel about it as well. So how about you take a little chill pill and calm down? Just a thread.. if you hate it so much, then stop putting so much effort into trying to convince people wrong of something you yourself don't know for sure, unless you happen to secretly be Jony Ive. These are all speculations.. no one knows for sure why Apple decided not to go with the retina display, for all we know, they just didn't feel like it. So when you pull up the iPad 2 blueprints and have actual evidence to show people, don't try to dis someone just because they have an opinion of their own. Theirs is just as right as yours, because no one here knows the right answer. Anyway, I'm kinda done with you. You come off as rude and irritating.
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Ouch.. lol you sure do get pretty upset over a thread. I guess sorry for bringing it up? And I would search this, if this was an actual issue. I was simply trying to express my feelings towards the whole retina display situation, and see how other people feel about it as well. So how about you take a little chill pill and calm down? Just a thread.. if you hate it so much, then stop putting so much effort into trying to convince people wrong of something you yourself don't know for sure, unless you happen to secretly be Jony Ive. These are all speculations.. no one knows for sure why Apple decided not to go with the retina display, for all we know, they just didn't feel like it. So when you pull up the iPad 2 blueprints and have actual evidence to show people, don't try to dis someone just because they have an opinion of their own. Theirs is just as right as yours, because no one here knows the right answer. Anyway, I'm kinda done with you. You come off as rude and irritating.
Apple is not the Wonka factory. They use commercially available components whose specs are all over the internet. Despite Apple's laughable efforts to hide the actual hardware specs for things like their A4 and A5 SoC's, they are plain to see for anyone that googles for it. The A5 is just a dual-core Cortex A9 sandwiched with a dual-core SGX543. That's it, there's no magic or non-existent core clocks.
So the lack of availability of powerful GPUs with a lithography smaller than 45nm, the incredible component cost, battery limitations, and other logical conclusions had nothing to do with it and the answer is just "they didn't feel like it"? That sounds like a religious explanation more than anything.
The blueprints? Haha. If you mean prototype specifications then it's irrelevant. The available technologies for mass commercial production are not state secrets. The components and their specs (including production timelines) are often, if not always, leaked or plainly announced by the companies themselves months and months before any product utilizing them (especially an Apple one) sees the light of day.
No, theirs is not. Theirs is based on fanciful wishlists and imagined technologies while everyone else here in reality bases their opinions on the topic off of available components, overhead, production capabilities, battery limitations, lithography, etc.
I come off as rude and irritating because I am being rude. You're trying to equate someone saying "It's this way because I believe it" to people who say "It's this way because of fact A, B, and C" One is an opinion based on flights of fancy while the other is based on reality. Stop trying to conflate the two. It's stunning really. Your argument is the type creationists use to equate creationism to evolution or the scientific method in general. It's ludicrous.
So I'm not gonna do the douchbag thing and take apart your entire comment and break it down to prove a point that no one really cares about in the first place. I guess out of the two of us, one needs to be a grown up, so that'll be me.
You win
Happy? You're smarter than everyone here, because you've done all the proper research to know exactly what goes into that iPad and everyone here is stupid. Only your opinion/'facts' are correct. You're right, there is no way Apple could possibly make an iPad with a retina display, and keep the same battery life/performance. That would obviously take some godly powers. And if you hate the 'mac community' so much, why are you even on this site? Do you get a kick out of annoying other people by trying to sound smarter than the entire world because you google things normal people don't have the time to care about?
So I'm not gonna do the douchbag thing and take apart your entire comment and break it down to prove a point that no one really cares about in the first place. I guess out of the two of us, one needs to be a grown up, so that'll be me.
You win
And if you hate the 'mac community' so much, why are you even on this site? Do you get a kick out of annoying other people by trying to sound smarter than the entire world because you google things normal people don't have the time to care about?
You postulate something ridiculous that has been posted, and refuted hundreds of times
It's explained why (for the umpteenth time) it isn't possible
You continue to claim it's due to things like "they just didn't want to"
Your ridiculous idea is eviscerated
You try to conflate opinions based on pipe dreams with those based on facts
You then whine and claim, without quoting, that I think "only my opinions are correct", ignore plainly stated limitations of current generation hardware, and attempt to slink out of a conversation by making it seem like all of this is über technical info that hasn't been discussed here, at length, for a long, long time.
Grown ups take the time to read things, particularly things that are written about at length on this very forum (on more than just the iPad section). Grown ups take the time to do a quick forum or Google search before dumping more misinformation on a forum. Grown ups also try to back up the positions they argue with facts and logic. Grown ups don't need things spoon fed to them repeatedly because they don't take the time to process the information in front of them.
Coffee-deprived grown ups who do understand the topic, or those who don't but take five minutes to do a search, get annoyed and address inane, answered questions with condescension. Because they are sick of misinformed, and often willfully ignorant individuals dumping blatantly wrong information all over a board that will show up when responsible people try to do a search on the topic to avoid starting *gasp* yet another Retina thread.
But sure kiddo, you can "be the grown up".
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Okay sounds good
I'm just gonna go back to enjoying my iPad and stop waiting my time with this stupid argument.
One is 50 inches the other 9.7
Nope, from my lap it looks just fine. I can see them from the same distance I hold my iPhone 4.
It doesn't bother me. I'm not like ZOMG!!! TEH PIXLZZZZ!!!!!!
One is 50 inches the other 9.7
Nope, from my lap it looks just fine. I can see them from the same distance I hold my iPhone 4.
It doesn't bother me. I'm not like ZOMG!!! TEH PIXLZZZZ!!!!!!
Get out of the 90's mindset please, times have changed and the vast majority of people want innovation to occur. The thought of an iPhone that has retina but not an iPad which is indispensable is really underwhelming.
Would I like a higher res display? Of course I would, who wouldn't?
Butbto say that the current iPad display is underwhelming is ridiculous.
Relative to the iPhone 4 and Sony's high end notebooks I find it that way. The iPad is always close to my eyes and it's incredibly noticeable the individual pixels to me. Just makes a revolutionary and expensive product feel ordinary.
Your avatar made me think for a minute I had an insect on my iPad while typing this.
One is 50 inches the other 9.7
Nope, from my lap it looks just fine. I can see them from the same distance I hold my iPhone 4.
It doesn't bother me. I'm not like ZOMG!!! TEH PIXLZZZZ!!!!!!
So you are saying that the pixels from the iPad are just as visible from the same distance as looking at the iPhone 4?
I completely agree with every argument you brought up. It is very frustrating to look up information and all that shows up are rants and people giving false information that is based on their 5 minutes of "research". Also it is hilarious to see people talk technical about components when they have absolutely no idea.
Not sure why this keeps coming up. I could understand it if retina displays were used in even a single device or computer other than the iPhone 4, but really it's pathetic at this point. The iPad's display (and I have an iPad 1) is pretty beautiful as it is. The resolution isn't bad at all. Would a retina screen by nice? Sure, but until competing products start getting them, it shouldn't really bother you. Although that won't happen, the iPad will obviously be first. I suspect within the next two iterations we will have it.
What about your 27" iMac ? That's not a retnia display either. Are you bringing it back too ? Also, did you concentrate on the pixels, or just use the device. I find that if I concentrate on the pixels, yes I see them, but if I just view the screen, then everything is fine.
If they are the world's best, where is the warp drive engines, transporters, thrustless drives, and perpetual motion machines. (Well, we all know perpetual motion exists, it is just being held back by the government.
) Retina displays on a tablet are not yet economically feasible. To do your MBA anology one better, the iPad, iPhone, and iPod Touches are all computers, and look at the size of them.Nope, he is not smarter than everyone here, but he does have more common sense than some. Don't confuse the two.
I do wish the iPad had a higher resolution display as well. I went to look at the original iPad in an Apple Store maybe 4-5 months ago and immediately I was struck by how clunky the display looks. I'd started to describe it as 'prehistoric' after getting used to the iPhone 4.
It's just a question of usage. My iMac screen looks great - I wouldn't change anything there. But then it's so large that I can just sit back and it's not intended to be hand held!
It's not enough to put me off the iPad 2 though, I will go for one in the next couple of months. Like someone else said I'm sure it's a non-issue if you don't use it trying to pick fault with the screen. But could be a real test to use it daily along side an iP4.
It's just a question of usage. My iMac screen looks great - I wouldn't change anything there. But then it's so large that I can just sit back and it's not intended to be hand held!
It's not enough to put me off the iPad 2 though, I will go for one in the next couple of months. Like someone else said I'm sure it's a non-issue if you don't use it trying to pick fault with the screen. But could be a real test to use it daily along side an iP4.
The problem with that is the iPad doesn't use retina graphics for iPhone apps. They actually take the non retina resolution and double it. iPhone apps look much worse on the iPad because of it.