Retina HD vs. Super AMOLED: Now who wins?

Discussion in 'Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices' started by nouveau-apple, Dec 16, 2014.

  1. nouveau-apple macrumors 6502a

    Sep 29, 2014
    We've always thought that Amoled on Android phones were better than retina displays.

    With the iPhone 6, Apple sticks to the time honored tradition of LCD displays, but Retina HD adds the missing factor of high definition to the screen.

    iPhones never had high definition screens. Although by adding retina pixels, it never mattered because things were just as crisp.

    Or so we thought.

    But what does Retina HD really change?

    Apple emphasizes richer colors, darker blacks and better white balance, and last but not least, wider viewing angles. Which is what Amoleds usually have.

    Apple is promising all of the things that Amoled provides. Is Apples dislay the best in the industry?
  2. nickchallis92 macrumors 6502a


    Mar 4, 2012
    No, Apple's displays are not the best in the industry. Their screens carry all the limitations that LCD displays have.

    DisplayMate have already shown that the Amoled screen seen on the Note 4 is the best available. It has better contrast, the colours are more accurate and the resolution is higher.
  3. teknikal90 macrumors 68040


    Jan 28, 2008
    Vancouver, BC
    if youve seen the note 4 screen youd see that its the best ever.
  4. Technarchy macrumors 604


    May 21, 2012
    The 6+ is the best LCD display offered by far in smartphones.

    It's stunning to look at.

    The Note 4 is the best AMOLED display by far in smartphones.

    It's also stunning.

    Between the two, the differences are negligible. Each has their strengths.

    I think the iPhone 6 is a downgrade from both.
  5. Rufuss Sewell macrumors 6502

    Jun 25, 2010
    Austin, TX
    I completely disagree that AMOLED has ever remotely looked accurate or appealing.

    Everything looks fake and Disney with blown out blues and greens. Anything that's supposed to look white looks blue.

    My mom has the Note 4. It looks like a candy coated cartoon.

    My iPhone 6 Plus looks much better... and so does my 4S. They look like real life with realistic tones and actual white.
  6. Stevessvt macrumors 6502

    Jul 2, 2010
    Where did you cut and paste that from? I want to read the actual article you took it from.
  7. newellj macrumors 604

    Oct 15, 2014
    Boston, MA, US
    I totally agree. The Apple displays, even the Retina displays, aren't perfect, but they are a far better compromise than any AMOLED screen I've ever seen.
  8. Bahroo macrumors 68000

    Jul 21, 2012
    AMOLED screens all burn in after sometime ownning the device, its a fatal flaw of AMOLED and I have went through 4 Galaxy S4's (also owned a Galaxy S3 and it suffered permanent screen burn in issues) that have had screen burn in issues only months after owning the device

    Nexus 6 already has reports of people having permanent screen burn in on their amoled screen, it really is a bad flaw of AMOLED technology right now and its why I switched to a device with a LCD panel so that i dont have to worry at all about screen burn in(and being permanent for that matter, it is permanent on oled screens, not permanent on LCD screens if you ever somehow mange to screen burn in a LCD display, which is really tough to do in real world usage)
  9. meistervu macrumors 65816

    Jul 24, 2008
    The Consumers

    Yes, we win because competition spurs innovation and we end up with great choices.
  10. nouveau-apple thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Sep 29, 2014
    Does anyone even notice the difference in the iPhone 6?

    same screen. More pixels. :/
  11. Kariya macrumors 68000


    Nov 3, 2010
    And AMOLEDS don't have any limitations right?
  12. meistervu macrumors 65816

    Jul 24, 2008
    Honestly, I never compared it side by side with iPhone 5. But I thought the iP5 looked great.

    It's not that I am easy to please when it comes to screen quality. Since the days of CRT I have always been among the most vocal when it it comes to selecting a display. I am a pretty advanced photographer and I could do it professionally if I choose to. I like the screen of the 5 and 6 because to me they provides fairly true color reproduction and looks really sharp, more than enough to the naked eyes at normal distance.

    To me the current screen technology is excellent, and any improvement is not going go a long way in affecting my enjoyment of the device.

    When was the last time you ask yourself "is that soft boiled egg any better than it has been for the last 10 years" instead of just sitting back and enjoy it?

    A lot of visual perception is in your brain. When the screen is good enough ( and my standard is pretty high), you just let your brain do its thing. If you start pixel peeping, then you are doing yourself a disservice.
  13. skratch77 macrumors 65816

    Mar 20, 2013
    Now it's 4 Galaxy s4s you've gone through? I've quoted you before when you said you went through 10 lol
  14. MRU Suspended


    Aug 23, 2005

    Retina & Retina HD mean little. You need to understand PPI - not just how many pixels.

    The iPhone 5 & 5S despite having less pixels (than the 6) has a smaller screen (4")
    The iPhone 6 despite having more pixels (that 5/5s) has a larger screen (4.7")
    The combined outcome is that the PPI pixel per inch calculation is of 320 or thereabouts for the pair of them.

    Therefore whilst you may see more screen on the iPhone 6 compared the 5S; the actual pixels per inch you see is identical - meaning there won't be a real discernible difference if you looked at an image on 1 over the other, other than perhaps seeing a little more of the image fractionally on the 6.
  15. MasterRyu2011 macrumors 65816

    Aug 22, 2014
    I really don't notice any difference besides one has a tinge of one color and the other a tinge of another. Both are equally sharp.
  16. Bahroo macrumors 68000

    Jul 21, 2012
    Who said 10? I clearly and obviously didnt go through 10 S4's. Either it was a mistype or i have no clue why it said 10 but i went through a few S4's (4 S4's) and they all suffered this issue over time , specifically where the black status bar is on Touch Wiz UI at the top,


    Of course they do, they have alot of limitations and LCD and AMOLED trade blows in alot of each own advantages/disadvantages
  17. epicrayban macrumors 604


    Nov 7, 2014
    Personally, I prefer LCD for the sheer fact that most article/web browsing is black text over white. I like my whites looking whiter.
  18. skratch77 macrumors 65816

    Mar 20, 2013
    Amoled screens have come a long way. The only thing lcd has over amoled now is screen burn in.

    Amoled has
    faster refresh/responce rate
    better contrast ratio
    higher resolution
    better power consumption
    Better brightness without washing out colors (think like upping brightness on lcd tv vs plasma)blacks turn grayer etc.
    can now be better calibrated to an almost perfect white ballance and last but not least can bend and flex.

    Ps I'm talking about samsungs amoled screens


    Then go get a note's got the whitest white ever tested in a phone
  19. Fernandez21 macrumors 601


    Jun 16, 2010
    Meh, they're both great right now, though in the future amoled will pull away as that tech keeps maturing and LCD hits a wall. Don't worry, iphones will have amoled then too, I think the apple watch may have amoled already.
  20. mattopotamus macrumors G5


    Jun 12, 2012
    That is a good point. I guess it depends if you spend most of your time browsing or watching movies. Not doubt about it, OLED is better for movies :)
  21. Dreday24 macrumors regular

    Apr 30, 2012
    the note 4 has better white point as well.......
  22. nouveau-apple thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Sep 29, 2014
    I'm going to take a look at that Note.

    It's just that I was beginning to feel like Apple's technology was a bit lacking.

    The screen is way too bright at night and not bright enough in the daytime.

    The blacks aren't that black. As in, it's not even black enough to blend in with the boarders around the sides.

    It looks like a Gameboy color. If you turn the screen off you can see the screen behind the glass.
  23. Dreday24 macrumors regular

    Apr 30, 2012
    Why don't you just manually turn down/up the brightness................
  24. Fernandez21 macrumors 601


    Jun 16, 2010
    I have yet to find a screen that can not be seen behind the glass when off, though the screen on the iPhone does seem to blend in the best.

    The note will give you a dimmer screen when viewing at night, it was fantastic on my note 3, but in sunlight, I don't believe its as bright as the iPhone, my note 3 wasnt but they have improved it with the note 4. I could be mistaken though.


    Even on the dimmest setting, its still brighter than the amoled panel on the Note. And for some even at full blast it still can be hard to see in daylight, though it has been the best in my experience.
  25. sunking101 macrumors 604


    Sep 19, 2013
    Or in the case of iPhone LCD screens, more yellow.#

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