I have done the same thing in the past and it worked for me too. I use a soft microfiber cloth to avoid damaging the surface of the display.
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Retina MacBook Pro Users Still Complaining of Image Persistence
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I have done the same thing in the past and it worked for me too. I use a soft microfiber cloth to avoid damaging the surface of the display.
What do you do for a living? That looks like pretty complicated designing! lolI am kinda of tired of those people who call us "perfectionist" or "nitpickers" or "OCD"
The problem is serious, and doesn't suit a quality product.
This is how it looks on mine. And oh. I use this machine to work, to make a living, not to scroll around on Facebook
First picture shows my design program. Second picture shows what you see after 5 min. on a grey background.
A cheap-shot is all you can come up with when you are not able to respond with a well thought-out response?
That's just pathetic...
Reading comprehension. Reading comprehension. Reading comprehension.
It was not about you, it was about Denzo's comment on how Image Retention only matters if you work for the President.
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How long have you owned the retina? It could take up to 8 weeks as per comments on the Apple thread. Some bought in July, just now are noticing retention, increasingly.
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Samsungs don't have the Image Retention issue. Still check for typical LCD defects like backlight leak, discoloration or dead pixels. But you would be IR-free. Congrats!
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Bit of terminology nitpicking: Dead pixels are unlikely to come back to life. In your case it's a stuck pixel. Those can be fixed sometimes which is effectively what you did.
Thank you for your interest. I design high-end audio electronics. Power Amplifiers and D/A convertors etc.
So I'm off to an Apple Store today to pick up a mid range (512gb) rMBP.
I was going to place a fresh order online today but I really, really cannot be asked with all of the rigmarole of returning it if there are (and I am expecting there to be!) any issues.
I would have preferred 16gb of ram but will just go with the stock 8gb. It's ridiculous that I have to make such a sacrifice but that's just the way it is - sadly.
I'll open it up in store and check that it is a Samsung panel, using the terminal command. If it's an LG, I'll request a replacement and ask them to select a machine from "further down the pile" in the hope that it will be from a different/Samsung batch.
It will be difficult to fully check for dead pixels under the store's lighting, but I can at least check for obvious issues. It really is ridiculous that a customer has to go through this, but it's a lot of dough so I'd rather hunt for issues now so that the machine can be swapped for another, than notice them later and be stuck (excuse the pun!) with it ...
Is there any way of ensuring it's a Samsung panel from the serial number? If there is, can someone please let me know and I'll ask them to pick one out accordingly. Cheers.
Oh by the way, there is also some backlight bleeding with the one that's going back but that really didn't bother me. The dead pixel I found last night was the final straw when deciding to back it.
Anyway, wish me luck!
I was going to place a fresh order online today but I really, really cannot be asked with all of the rigmarole of returning it if there are (and I am expecting there to be!) any issues.
I would have preferred 16gb of ram but will just go with the stock 8gb. It's ridiculous that I have to make such a sacrifice but that's just the way it is - sadly.
I'll open it up in store and check that it is a Samsung panel, using the terminal command. If it's an LG, I'll request a replacement and ask them to select a machine from "further down the pile" in the hope that it will be from a different/Samsung batch.
It will be difficult to fully check for dead pixels under the store's lighting, but I can at least check for obvious issues. It really is ridiculous that a customer has to go through this, but it's a lot of dough so I'd rather hunt for issues now so that the machine can be swapped for another, than notice them later and be stuck (excuse the pun!) with it ...
Is there any way of ensuring it's a Samsung panel from the serial number? If there is, can someone please let me know and I'll ask them to pick one out accordingly. Cheers.
Oh by the way, there is also some backlight bleeding with the one that's going back but that really didn't bother me. The dead pixel I found last night was the final straw when deciding to back it.
Anyway, wish me luck!
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Revision A is commonly used to denote the first version of a product in the Apple lineup.
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You can ask but they have no way of saying apart from opening the box and running the terminal command.
Nice one, buddy.
Thanks for the reply.
Sooooooo ... I made it half way to the Apple Store then turned around! I really want the 16gb ram upgrade as it is such a great upgrade for a relatively small price (I remember just a few years back when the 8gb ram upgrade for the 17" MBP was something crazy like £600!).
Anyway, I ordered the machine completely fresh from Apple earlier today. The machine that I currently have is all boxed up and is being collected via courier tomorrow to complete the return.
The new order is due to be delivered 28 Sep - 02 Oct and my degree begins on 04 Oct so please let it be perfect for me!
On the Apple forum on this topic, some users report some Apple store geniuses taking pity on them and admitting to having a Ripley system [never heard the term before, I'm just quoting]. Geniuses were then able to pick out a Samsung model from stock without having to open the box.
Edit: at other stores, the geniuses and even managers claimed that Apple had no such system, and that they were unable to tell without opening boxes, and obviously weren't willing to do it. The theory on the thread is that it is official Apple policy to deny the existence of said system, but that some of the geniuses were cooler than others about helping out.
Writing comprehension, Writing comprehension. Writing comprehension.
You quoted part of my post and then wrote a comment. And I'm supposed to figure out that you were actually referring to another person's post?
A bit off topic ..
But people mocking plasma TV for having image persistance and burn-in problem. While it's not uncommon for LCD for having it too.
Yet plasma gives you better contrast, clarity, black level and virtually 0 response time. And in my experience, plasma generally more durable than LCD. I had an fancy thin LED for just under 2 years before it developed lines, weird colors and $#it, while my plasmas has been going strong for almost 5 years, and counting!
Not to mention a low-end plasma TVs can beat the hands down of a fancy and more expensive LED ones.
So please, go back to Plasma for TVs, it is an excellent technology. Stop pushing the LCD tvs. They're crap for TVs, for a monitor, maybe.
But people mocking plasma TV for having image persistance and burn-in problem. While it's not uncommon for LCD for having it too.
Yet plasma gives you better contrast, clarity, black level and virtually 0 response time. And in my experience, plasma generally more durable than LCD. I had an fancy thin LED for just under 2 years before it developed lines, weird colors and $#it, while my plasmas has been going strong for almost 5 years, and counting!
Not to mention a low-end plasma TVs can beat the hands down of a fancy and more expensive LED ones.
So please, go back to Plasma for TVs, it is an excellent technology. Stop pushing the LCD tvs. They're crap for TVs, for a monitor, maybe.
So, the 2000+ laptop has a MAJOR flaw in it? People keep buying it, despite the fact that it has MAJOR issues, and Apple won't spent that valuable " profit space " to fix it.
I've NEVER had an LCD, LED, or IPS do this.
But hey, its made by Apple, so it must be OK.
It amazes me why people would spend money on a product with such a huge failure rate.
I've NEVER had an LCD, LED, or IPS do this.
But hey, its made by Apple, so it must be OK.
It amazes me why people would spend money on a product with such a huge failure rate.
Well apparently Sheeps enjoy being milked dry
I read one guy, FIVE failures, and he keeps coming back.
Good Mac vs PC ad " Sure! Our screens are a little lower resoulation! But they actually work! "
Yes, you should have figured that out.Writing comprehension, Writing comprehension. Writing comprehension.
You quoted part of my post and then wrote a comment. And I'm supposed to figure out that you were actually referring to another person's post?
You should look up the word: commiserate.
I'll gladly take good hardware that WORKS over a track pad with " Gestures ".
I don't understand how Kool Aid Drinkers blow 2500+ on a laptop, that breaks, over and over and over again, gets returned over and over and over again. And keeps coming back.
rMPB, not my kinda laptop, hardware is weak. But that display is amazing. If I were to buy one, the display is the primary reason. But....unless you get a Samsung display....the display does not.....work?
Wow! Nice! I can't imagine how complicated that could be! It's the people like you that help make technology better!
512 GB SSD, 16GB RAM, 2.6GHZ i7 processor and Nvidia 650M GPU... doesn't sound so weak to me...
Sad handing mac to Genius Bar
So I have the issue. It is easy to demonstrate after 5 minutes of having anything on the screen. Very sadly handed my mac back to the genius bar for 'repairing'. Hope they sort it out.
It was an LG screen according to the commands posted on this forum. Interestingly (or not) I use an LG IPS LED in the office and it never suffers from any problems like this.
Adding some insult to injury the 'Genius' who helped me simply said 'we haven't produced a display like this before' as some kind of explanation. Well I certainly can say that it is a marvelous experience to use the machine - but the image retention worries me about longevity in general.
I will be buying the 3 year applecare (I'm 2 months into owning this device) in case the screen melts.
handing mac to Genius BarSo I have the issue. It is easy to demonstrate after 5 minutes of having anything on the screen. Very sadly handed my mac back to the genius bar for 'repairing'. Hope they sort it out.
It was an LG screen according to the commands posted on this forum. Interestingly (or not) I use an LG IPS LED in the office and it never suffers from any problems like this.
Adding some insult to injury the 'Genius' who helped me simply said 'we haven't produced a display like this before' as some kind of explanation. Well I certainly can say that it is a marvelous experience to use the machine - but the image retention worries me about longevity in general.
I will be buying the 3 year applecare (I'm 2 months into owning this device) in case the screen melts.
Ugh! My second rMBP just started really showing IR again. I had seen some faint outlines on my wallpaper previously, but now it's starting to show up after only a few minutes... and really distinct... I'm glad it did when it did, Monday is the last day of my 14 day exchange period. I'm wondering if it's worth it, to get another ticket for the Samsung lottery.
What is happening to Apple?
What is happening to Apple?Good guy Samsung
Fortunately, I've got a Samsung-made display.
No sign of ghosting or any kind of image persistence.
Fortunately, I've got a Samsung-made display.
No sign of ghosting or any kind of image persistence.