Are you really this dense? You cannot compare benchmarks from a mobile phone with a snapdragon processor running Android to a laptop with a Core M processor running a full desktop OS. Even if you could, he argued you can do anything on a phone you can on the MacBook which is laughable. Please go troll elsewhere.
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Retina MacBook slower than Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge
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Are you really this dense? You cannot compare benchmarks from a mobile phone with a snapdragon processor running Android to a laptop with a Core M processor running a full desktop OS. Even if you could, he argued you can do anything on a phone you can on the MacBook which is laughable. Please go troll elsewhere.
Which hack exactly allows me to run OS X MS Office and Adobe Acrobat Pro on my iPad? I am very familiar with the iOS version of Office. It isn't even close to the same, and there is no iOS app that replaces Acrobat Pro.
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Speaking as the owner of a rMBP and a rMB, the difference is a great deal less than you'd think.
Easy on the personal insults .
Yeah it's impossible to compare processors in 2015
I never once said I agreed with the assumptions the OP made. Read what I actually posted.
I'm interested in actual benchmarks of the 1.3 model, as a possible purchase. To be frank, you have not added anything to this thread other than some jibes and insults at a few posters.
So if you want to start from scratch, do you own the rMB ? And if so, what model and what is your experience with it?
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Brilliant, this is the advice I'm after, which model rMBP and rMB?
I guess in my situation , I want to avoid the 2008 MBA. Is there any day to day tasks that the rMB struggles with?
Dude, you're so far off base. You can't even have two spreadsheets open at the same time in Office on mobile. It has nothing to do with advanced features. Office on mobile is stripped down to the barest of bare bones. 99% of office workers would not be able to work efficiently at all on an iPad.
Late 2013 2.4/256/8 rMBP, 2015 (duh
) 1.2/512/8 rMB. I started a thread yesterday in which I reported the results of some Lightroom file ops that took about half an hour with the rMBP and rMB at maximum temps. Under those circumstances, which are completely unrepresentative of anything I'd ever do with this rMB, the rMB was only 20% slower than the rMBP. If you had a 2.9gHz rMBP, the delta would be greater, but my point is that most ops are much shorter and 20% (or likely less) of a very short op is close to unnoticeable in real life.However...there is absolutely no way to avoid the potential 2008 MBA issue. Within two or three years, these highly sought little gems could look like roadkill. It's just inherent in the Gen1 purchase decision.
My deduction, after reading SO MANY threads like this one (about how woefully underpowered the rMB is, for all the SUPER high-powered and MASSIVELY important work that's allegedly being done by the OPs of these posts...) is that the people making these complaints spend SO MUCH time reading comparison posts, comparing specs, trolling forums, and writing negative posts - that they likely don't have the time for things that a higher-powered laptop would be required for anyway. So - contrary to your complaints, trolls, I think the rMB is perfectly suited for what you clearly spend the great majority of your time doing.
Precisely. Real world work - what's that? It's just armchair expertise. All the measurbators want to do is look at numbers on paper, the way some people look at porn. That's why I spent several hours yesterday and again this morning running some comparisons that, while not representative of anything I do very often on a laptop, at least are real world results of a real program doing real file operations. Speaking of which...time to go do some real work..
The comparison was based on processing power, no? In a way it's a valid point to make, as this laptop has some significant compromises.
If you are after best productivity device , it's not the retina MacBook , it compromises speed for portability.
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A 5-7 year old computer will also run handbrake over night
But it won't be as portable or have as good of screen as the new rMB. There is no way it would be as beautiful or have as good of keyboard or trackpad. I'd tried it out today and it is a joy to use.
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We wouldn't have cared about that two months ago just like we don't care about it now. What a stupid comparison.
You actually think Geekbench is a valid benchmark tool?
Jokes on you.
http://support.primatelabs.com/disc...performance-of-4770k-across-linux-and-windows
Bolded says it all.
Geekbench is not representative of the performance of the CPU core. It is representative and designed to reflect the performance of once written, unoptimized code for applications on a variety of CPU architectures. No care is given to write code for x86 or ARM and no optimizations are done.
Geekbench is representative of perhaps cross platform apps but by no means can you take geekbench results and apply them to photoshop.
You can clearly see this in the SGEMM and DGEMM results where haswell is around 1/6-1/8 of theoretical when even basic programmers can write code getting 50% throughput.
Why perhaps? Because the Geekbench devs are not being honest. I've asked them on other forums why they refuse to use extensions such as AVX on desktop (which has been out for nearly 4+ years) and their answer is: "That is not representative of real world performance. Few programs use those extenstions." Yet Geekbench was one of the first apps to be updated with 64 bit ARM support despite few apps using it upon launch (and still basically nothing in the non-apple ARM market). It looks like Geekbench defaults to 64 bit mode on the iphone 6 as well further biasing comparisons (why does x86 cost money for the 64 bit benchmark but ios does not?).
Then lets look at the tests. Integer has a pretty poor selection. Everything with the exception of three tests is cryptography or compression/decompression. Why do there need to be separate tests for JPEG and PNG? Maybe there is something else out these besides image compression huh? Floating point is better but Memory is terrible. No latency tests? Nothing dependent on large memory transfers?
Geekbench tests themselves are of a very small footprint and not very intensive.
Precisely. Real world work - what's that? It's just armchair expertise. All the measurbators want to do is look at numbers on paper, the way some people look at porn. That's why I spent several hours yesterday and again this morning running some comparisons that, while not representative of anything I do very often on a laptop, at least are real world results of a real program doing real file operations. Speaking of which...time to go do some real work..
^This.
BOOM.
Well to be fair you can make a phone call on the S6 Edge... Oh wait..
So I guess the OP and others have justified the AT&T $1014 price. So for less than $300 dollars more you get another 128 GB, nice lighted keyboard, and a 12 inch screen. This isn't the dumbest Macbook thread but close.
So I guess the OP and others have justified the AT&T $1014 price. So for less than $300 dollars more you get another 128 GB, nice lighted keyboard, and a 12 inch screen. This isn't the dumbest Macbook thread but close.
Yes, but Office for iOS is completely peanuts if you compare it to Office 2016 beta on OS X.
The full Office suite, plus a full sized keyboard and an easily accessible file system on OS X improves productivity by an order of a magnitude.
Photoshop on mobile isn't the same as Photoshop on OS X.
It's about being practical as well. Can you be as productive working on a lengthy Word document on your mobile than on your Mac? Even I find myself severely restricted when using Office on my iPad. And that's why I have my 13" rMBP everywhere I go.
We mustn't forget that, often, Apple tweaks the (already highly optimized) OS X specifically for certain devices, processors, etc. The version of OS X on a MacBook Pro Retina is not the exact same version on the 2015 MacBook Retina. The hardware and software are specifically designed and optimized in a tightly-controlled way for each notebook or desktop they put out.
Which is the beauty of having an extremely tight coupling of the hardware and software. The exact reason we all use Apple products.
Late 2013 2.4/256/8 rMBP, 2015 (duh
However...there is absolutely no way to avoid the potential 2008 MBA issue. Within two or three years, these highly sought little gems could look like roadkill. It's just inherent in the Gen1 purchase decision.
Cheers for the feedback, appreciate it. That performance sounds better than I had expected. I wish my local Apple stores had one to play with. I might just take the plunge and order one and see for myself.
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I did care 2 months ago how the CPU would perform. Many of us did, and when it was compared to CPU processing power of an iPad, I guarantee you many cared. The compassion of a phone doing the same tasks is stupid. I'm just happy to read many people who are very happy with the performance
And yet the rMB scores 172ms in SunSpider while the S6 Edge is 5 times slower with 990ms
You cannot compare Geekbench results across platforms and CPU architectures! It uses different compilers, different instruction sets and god knows what else. It is possible that the max theoretical flops of an octa-core ARM A57 will come close (~20%) to a similarly clocked Core-M, but the A57 will be so much slower in normal everyday operation. Packing 8 relatively weak cores together gives you good figures on paper, but in reality, even the dual core Apple A8 outperforms the octacore A57 in applications that matter.
You cannot compare Geekbench results across platforms and CPU architectures! It uses different compilers, different instruction sets and god knows what else. It is possible that the max theoretical flops of an octa-core ARM A57 will come close (~20%) to a similarly clocked Core-M, but the A57 will be so much slower in normal everyday operation. Packing 8 relatively weak cores together gives you good figures on paper, but in reality, even the dual core Apple A8 outperforms the octacore A57 in applications that matter.