They look horrible because of the scaling. On a 4k screen, they would be pixel doubled, so they would actually look normal.
maybe... dont know. we will see...
They look horrible because of the scaling. On a 4k screen, they would be pixel doubled, so they would actually look normal.
I guess if you plan on gaming on an iMac, there is no rush for retina display, because there is gonna take a few years until a mobile graphic card can run most games natively at such a high definition.
If a GeForce GTX 780M can't do the best of jobs on a 1440p display, 880M won't as well, and that is why I don't care to wait another couple of years.
I consider the 2560x1440 resolution that 27" iMacs and Apple Thunderbolt Displays currently ship to be "Retina" under normal viewing distances of at least 2.5ft away. In fact, 2560x1440 is beyond 1920x1080 HD resolution and is in 2K territory. The next logical step would for Apple to take is to bump displays up to 4K.
Of course, the only problem that 4K as well as 2K has been encountering is the lack of content. We have had the 2560x1440 resolution since 2009 when Apple debuted it in the iMac yet mainstream video content maxes out at 1080p. Applications and websites aren't resolution independent or take full advantage of 2560x1440 either.
With that said, what's the point of having all this great hardware when nothing takes advantage of it?
this is why we need a 'Mac' with discrete desktop graphics that is suitable for gaming. If Apple are all about the consumer these days, you can't get much more consumer than games!
Marco Arment just wrote a really fascinating review of this topic here. Basically, he believes that there WILL be 4K retina displays and iMacs THIS YEAR!
check this out... External Thunderbolt GPU case by ASUS
http://uk.hardware.info/news/38509/...s-finalize-external-thunderbolt-gpu-enclosure
i would kill for that... no more missing gpu power on osx/bootcamp
this is in developement for 2 years now. but it seems its about to be final. CES 2014 news! last changes to drivers and firmware...
Look at the size of it though. Apple could build an entire desktop with the same graphics performance in a case that size. It might perform okay, but It seems like the tail wagging the dog to get around a problem that shouldn't exist.
apple could... but wouldn't. cause high end gfx cards dont even fit in the stylish minimalized cases of apple computers. with the macpro everything is build to rely on external hardware (thunderbolt devices) cause the hardware is so bulky to fit in the premium r2d2 case![]()
i would place it under my desk, no problem for me.
This is a serious question as I don't follow tech as much as I used to. In regards to a 4k Mac, if other companies are doing now and seemingly Apple could, why wouldn't they? It seems they will undoubtedly release one given what other companies are putting out this year?
Dude, a "retina" 27-inch iMac would have a resolution far higher than 4K... As such it makes very little sense that we would have a "retina" 27-inch iMac before a 4K 27-inch iMac.I think retina but no 4k not yet....
The pixel density per inch won't be high enough to label the screen as "retina". What you're suggesting makes just as much sense as simply scaling the interface 2x on current iMacs and calling it "retina". In both cases you'd end up with fairly huge interface elements but you'll still be able to distinguish individual pixels.Basically the elements will be scaled up to HiDPI, just like the retina MacBook Pros. It'll have an effective resolution of 3840x2160, but the UI and elements will be scaled to as if it's 1920x1080.
The iMac pro aka mini trashcan has a bto for 4k. Apparently (Macformat) showed a video where it had a refresh rate of 30.3 fps. Which is kinda bad for games.
...the Mac Pro isn't made for games, which explains the lower framerate. I wish people would get that into their head.
Lol, no need to get protective over a monitor brutha. I was pointing out the monitors flaw ya know. 60hz or go home.
I'm not talking about the monitor. The reason the Mac Pro has such a low frame rate while gaming is because of the workstation GPUs, it's not made for gaming, it's made for money making.
And I never brought up whether or not the mp is good for gaming so your argument is dumb dude. Thee end. No need to point it out.
You said "Which is kinda bad for games", did you even read what you wrote?
yep, i was referring to the monitor once again. i am sorry if i was unclear on that. give it up brutha. this argument is dumb
The iMac pro aka mini trashcan has a bto for 4k. Apparently (Macformat) showed a video where it had a refresh rate of 30.3 fps. Which is kinda bad for games. So, let's sort that and the price out and suddenly yes, it makes sense.
I do think Apple should come out with dual sli mobile cards for the iMac if they do 4k. Enable crossfire for games so devs take advantage of its capabilities. That would be killa![]()
You never mentioned monitors:
Please no
They either need to push it up so 2560x1440 is the "best for retina" at the very least or just wait until that's possible.
If they go with 1080p for "best for retina" and we have to scale up for more desktop space that wouldn't be good. Tried a 2012 and 2013 retina MBP and can't stand the performance issues in "scaled" mode, not to mention that the retina quality isn't as good in these resolutions either.