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Reuters Confirms a Smaller Dock Connector and Relocated Headphone Jack on Next iPhone

listen! Apple will not change the size of the iphone dock! It makes no sense and will cause massive fragmentation!
Plus it will render all accessories obsolete!!!!
It will NOT happen!!
Repeat after me, apple will NOT change the size of the dock connector!
Steve jobs is turning in his grave by the amount of fools thinking that this is a good idea!!
It will NOT happen!!!!!

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Mal said:
So nothing important then? Apps are everything on a smartphone, short of battery life and I've never heard any significant complaints about the iPhone's battery.

jW
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I wouldn't say apps are everything, although they are obviously a major part. There's no denying the 3rd party apps on the iPhone are generally better and more polished than their Android counterparts. However, Android is catching up and iPhone apps are only slightly better. Given the added APIs the Android developers have access to, a greater variety and of apps with more functionality can be written. Hopefully it may only be a matter of time before Android apps are comparable in terms of quality.
 
But the picture isn't from Reuters...

cg0def said:
as if the Reuters all of a sudden has some secret stash of indisputable inside information on Apple products. No offence to anyone but ... like hell that's a final iPhone case.

Apple has always has the choice of anodising the antenna and yet they didn't. Did you ever wonder why? And if so why would you think that those reasons don't hold true anymore? This is an entirely engineering/physics driven decision and not an aesthetic one.

2nd, why do you think that every iPhone since the very first uses a wire mesh cover of the speaker/mic? Might that not have something to do with the performance too? Apple has had the ability to drill holes like the ones shown here for a very long time now. Yet those would create a mediocre performance of the components underneath.

And last but not least, in what world would Jonny sign off on a design that uses to different size covers for the speaker and mic?

So yeah thanks, Reuters, maybe you are right about the smaller connector but it is highly unlikely that the jack is moving to the bottom and there is no way in hell that that photo is an actual production ready iPhone design. And that's exactly why I spend my money on Apple products!
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The picture is from an article that appeared on MR on 6th June - it's not from Reuters. They don't picture an iPhone in their story at all. Their story isn't based on a picture. It's based on "two sources familiar with the matter".

I love these discussions - people get so heated and certain that they know what's best, what's coming, what's not. I take it that all of the people who keep saying "trust me, Apple would never do [insert change to product here]" will be moving from Apple or sticking with iP4/s if Apple do make that change?

There are few things that Apple have done without reason. Moving the headphone socket might be the first one that I can think of, or they might just have a reason for this too. I suspect that they do. And if they don't, I don't care. I'll make my decision based on the announcement of the new phone, and will order one, or not, based on facts...

Tiptopp
 
Piggie said:
But in 2012/2013 should be be plugging physical wires into holes in the 1st place?

We can charge and send data without wires now.
Even if you wanted to keep the charging option then all the phone would need would be 2 tiny contacts and nothing else (like a cordless home phone has for charging)
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Just going to point out data transfer speeds over wireless are crap compared to being plugged into your computer.
Also for development purposes you have to be able to hardware into your computer. There is a crap load of data that a developer needs/wants that having the hardware connection is the only way to do it.

For first start up and devs you want/have to have the USB connection to the computer.
 
Vancouvercanuck said:
Is that a freaking joke? you mean all the accessories that i have bought would be obsolete soon? Way to tell people to use Android instead, Apple!
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You sound like you have a lot of accessories. Don't worry they will continue to work with all your current iPod and iPhone products, they won't be obsolete.

Hopefully scosche will make something for the docks to go from classic to the new nano style.
 
Well looking at the 30 pin break down the 11 pins that I expect Apple is tossing out are going to be the 11 pin doing with the display output. None of the others make sense nor can they really be removed.
 
I cant believe that the lower part has 5 rows of holes in it on the one side and 8 rows on the other side of the new dock connector due to the headphone jack.


And this from a company who put a screw on either side of the plastic macbooks although one of them was unnecessary. They did it just for the symmetry.
 
charliecc said:
It's a shame Android started out where it did. The top end devices that are now running ICS or JB are far superior to the iPhone, but past deficiencies in Android have caused this point of view.

The only thing going for the iPhone now is the quality of it's apps.
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Can we stop with this sort of comment, please?

You have an opinion. Others hold different opinions. People don't need you to tell them what they should think.

The thing is that different people value different things differently. The features that make Android "far superior" to you may mean nothing at all to others while the qualities that they value in iOS devices might be insignificant to you. No one has the right to tell anyone else that their preferences are wrong.
 
Vancouvercanuck said:
Is that a freaking joke? you mean all the accessories that i have bought would be obsolete soon? Way to tell people to use Android instead, Apple!
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There will be an adapter that will easily work with all of your accessories. You better believe apple spent a lot of time and development to ensure the millions & millions of accessories out there can be converted over seamlessly...for $29.99 ;)
 
Wiesenlooser said:
I cant believe that the lower part has 5 rows of holes in it on the one side and 8 rows on the other side of the new dock connector due to the headphone jack.
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So how would you have done it? Add a 2nd headphone jack hole just for symmetry?
 
batchtaster said:
Explain what you can do on your phone without opening any apps.

Volume goes up, volume goes down...
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If you read on, you'll see that I say 3rd party apps. So, without opening any 3rd party apps on my phone I can make calls, take pics, send emails and SMSs etc.

It's like trying to have a conversation with people who've been lobotomised, which I guess is essentially what Apple have done to you.

I can see the view from all angles, I can see where the iPhone is better and where the Android phone is better. When I buy a phone, my aim is to buy the best phone available (within monetary constraints), irrespective of who makes it.

That used to be the iPhone, I've owned 3, but now it's Android. A lot of Apple fanboys just want a status symbol and will buy Apple regardless of whether there are other better phones on the market.

Yes, for some people the iPhone is the best phone for them, especially if it makes them feel all fuzzy because they have an Apple product. If they stopped believing the hype and took a while to fully assess the competition they would see that they've been left far behind. However, I guess there's a reason people buy designer sun glasses and $5000 watches, and it certainly isn't because they are better than the competition.
 
charliecc said:
If you read on, you'll see that I say 3rd party apps. So, without opening any 3rd party apps on my phone I can make calls, take pics, send emails and SMSs etc.

It's like trying to have a conversation with people who've been lobotomised, which I guess is essentially what Apple have done to you.

I can see the view from all angles, I can see where the iPhone is better and where the Android phone is better. When I buy a phone, my aim is to buy the best phone available (within monetary constraints), irrespective of who makes it.

That used to be the iPhone, I've owned 3, but now it's Android. A lot of Apple fanboys just want a status symbol and will buy Apple regardless of whether there are other better phones on the market.

Yes, for some people the iPhone is the best phone for them, especially if it makes them feel all fuzzy because they have an Apple product. If they stopped believing the hype and took a while to fully assess the competition they would see that they've been left far behind. However, I guess there's a reason people buy designer sun glasses and $5000 watches, and it certainly isn't because they are better than the competition.
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All the arrogant tripe here really undermines your self proclaimed objectivity.

According to you the only reasons anyone would choose an iPhone over an Android handset is either blind devotion, vanity or ignorance. Your attitude, quite frankly, stinks.
 
Michael Scrip said:
"The new iPhone looks stupid with a taller screen... 16x9 sucks"

**runs off to Android... where every phone has a 16x9 screen...
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They generally only go 16:9 when the screen is large enough for it to make sense. You won't find many (if any) high-end 4" 16:9 phones out there. As usual, Apple is bringing up the rear on screen size, even as they finally try to jump on the larger screen bandwagon.
 
tinkytoo1488 said:
listen! Apple will not change the size of the iphone dock! It makes no sense and will cause massive fragmentation!
Plus it will render all accessories obsolete!!!!
It will NOT happen!!
Repeat after me, apple will NOT change the size of the dock connector!
Steve jobs is turning in his grave by the amount of fools thinking that this is a good idea!!
It will NOT happen!!!!!

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I'd agree with you except way too many reputable media sources are reporting the dock connector will be smaller. Apple is getting this out early so everyone has time to absorb & it's not a shocker when they announced and it's not the headline.

As for it not making sense, I think the correct phrasing would be it doesn't make sense to you. Obviously it does make sense to Apple. Apple isn't out to intentionally p.o. customers because that costs it time and money, but there comes a time in the life of every CE connector ever made where it reaches the end of its useful tech life.

Also, Jobs passed away less than a year ago. He was in on the design of the next iPhone and the smaller connector. It's takes more than a year to design and test a new connector.
 
Smeaton1724 said:
"Legacy connector but full OS"
iPhone 4s, all the features of ios 6, new dock.
iPad 3, all features of ios 6, old dock
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Well we know there will be new iPhone 5, iPad Mini, and iPad 4 features that won't be available to the 4S or iPad 3. So iPhone 4s and iPad 3 have limited OS also.

But that's the way it always is.

I for one and really hoping this new connector is still MagSafe or something to really justify the change. But either way I'm still going to buy it. The iPhone 5 will be the best phone available. Just like the 4s was and the 4. And so on.
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How does changing the dock connector render all accessories obsolete? Is everyone on the planet who owns an iPhone going to upgrade to the new phone? Is Apple going to stop selling the iPhone 4/4s (or even 3GS in some countries) once the new phone comes out? Hardly. Get a grip people. IF Apple is changing the dock connector (and all we have a rumors at this point) there's a reason for it and it's not because Jony Ive and Bob Mansfield got together one day and said 'let's find a way to screw over all our customers and force them to purchase new accessories'. :rolleyes:
 
Zunjine said:
According to you the only reasons anyone would choose an iPhone over an Android handset is either blind devotion, vanity or ignorance. Your attitude, quite frankly, stinks.
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I'm sad to say I honestly think ignorance and blind devotion do account for a lot of iPhone sales.

Quotes like this in this very thread do no help matters.

"well i hope n pray it to be a magsafe connector, would be awesome, i m not buying anything else other than this phone"

"But either way I'm still going to buy it. The iPhone 5 will be the best phone available"

No concrete specs on the iPhone 5, but already sure they will buy it. I may be a lesser sub human with my Android, but I certainly wouldn't commit to buying the next one until I knew a lot more about it.
 
Chupa Chupa said:
I'd agree with you except way too many reputable media sources are reporting the dock connector will be smaller. Apple is getting this out early so everyone has time to absorb & it's not a shocker when they announced and it's not the headline.

As for it not making sense, I think the correct phrasing would be it doesn't make sense to you. Obviously it does make sense to Apple. Apple isn't out to intentionally p.o. customers because that costs it time and money, but there comes a time in the life of every CE connector ever made where it reaches the end of its useful tech life.

Also, Jobs passed away less than a year ago. He was in on the design of the next iPhone and the smaller connector. It's takes more than a year to design and test a new connector.
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I have always found that 30 pin dongle too big and strange. For starters it had to be inserted only one way to fit correctly.
Then the cable always broke at the connection from the constant handling, plus it had no option to angle it.
The last iphone cable had the plastic sheath coming out of the plug extended, so Apple knew about this problem.

A mini USB makes the most sense, because they have to submit it for Europe anyway.

People whining about 9 year old connectors will just have to learn that the industry moves on to new stuff.

Hope they still have their floppy drives:)
 
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