Reuters Confirms a Smaller Dock Connector and Relocated Headphone Jack on Next iPhone

[Rogifan]

I cant believe that the lower part has 5 rows of holes in it on the one side and 8 rows on the other side of the new dock connector due to the headphone jack.


And this from a company who put a screw on either side of the plastic macbooks although one of them was unnecessary. They did it just for the symmetry.

I'm reserving judgement until Apple releases it. Right now all we have are mockups based on unfinished cases (that may or may not be legit). I suspect the phone will look quite a bit different once we see the finished product. Though I'm sure there will still be plenty who won't like it. I remember how many people hated the unibody MacBooks when they came out, and now they're the standard that many PC OEM's are taking their design cues from.

 

[krashx7]

Everytime this thread pops there are always missinformed people preaching about how micro usb cannot do video/audio/tv etc. You people have no clue as to what your talking about. It CAN in fact do all of those things.

 

[Zunjine]

I'm sad to say I honestly think ignorance and blind devotion do account for a lot of iPhone sales.

Quotes like this in this very thread do no help matters.

"well i hope n pray it to be a magsafe connector, would be awesome, i m not buying anything else other than this phone"

"But either way I'm still going to buy it. The iPhone 5 will be the best phone available"

No concrete specs on the iPhone 5, but already sure they will buy it. I may be a lesser sub human with my Android, but I certainly wouldn't commit to buying the next one until I knew a lot more about it.

In 2011 over 72,000,000 iPhones were purchased around the world but you feel comfortable making sweeping statements about those 72 million customers based on a minuscule sample from within an Apple fan forum which will be disproportionately filled with people who have a high degree of brand loyalty.

You're either staggeringly ignorant or you're staggeringly biased. Which one is it?

 

[quasinormal]

My greatest hope from this is that Apple opens up the digital output technology via the ipod dock, it currently licences to companies like Wadia, Onkyo, etc, so a usb DAC can be connected to the new connection like the ipad and that the classic is updated with this new port.

 

[jmpnop]

"Reuters Confirms a Smaller Dock Connector and Relocated Headphone Jack on Next iPhone"

 

[Gix1k]

This renders my car and my dock useless..What a dumbazz move. Headphone on the bottom...WHY? Who wants their phone upside down all the time.

If all of this and if it still looks like the 4S just longer, I'm getting the S3. F this!

 

[Puevlo]

Will this be the first iPhone to flop? Yes.

 

[charliecc]

In 2011 over 72,000,000 iPhones were purchased around the world but you feel comfortable making sweeping statements about those 72 million customers based on a minuscule sample from within an Apple fan forum which will be disproportionately filled with people who have a high degree of brand loyalty.

You're either staggeringly ignorant or you're staggeringly biased. Which one is it?

Well, until Nov 2011, the iPhone was the best mass market phone available in the world, so I'm not surprised it sold well at all. What I will be saddened by are the same figures they'll undoubtedly pull this year.

 

[johncrab]

"Seems to confirm" and "Confirms (with evidence)" are two very different things. This would be a mistake for Apple and would slow the upgrade path as people like me would end up resenting having to trash some very expensive accessories or wait and hope manufacturers came out with adaptors. A pretty stupid move, much like the IBM "Microchannel" bus which was also a disaster in spite of the money IBM spent trying to shove it down the throats of businesses.

 

[LoraoTX]

Is that a freaking joke? you mean all the accessories that i have bought would be obsolete soon? Way to tell people to use Android instead, Apple!

Its funny how you guys pay for a $500+ phone and complain about a $30 adapter..

 

[Zunjine]

Well, until Nov 2011, the iPhone was the best mass market phone available in the world, so I'm not surprised it sold well at all. What I will be saddened by are the same figures they'll undoubtedly pull this year.

Hardly. They're already close to that number after two quarters. Suspect they'll come close to doubling those numbers.

So it's your view that tens of millions of people are making a choice to buy an iPhone out of blind devotion to the Apple brand and ignorance of their choices?

Do you not see how deeply arrogant you're being? You can see the truth and all those who think differently to you are just idiots? Is this how you talk to people face to face or do you find that people just don't like to spend time with you in real life?

 

[Jynto]

Bet you can't wait to plug your Samsung nexus galaxy chocolate sponge cake world edition with tingling sense HD powered by android 4.1 beta with 3D into your iPod dock.

I'm an Android user, and I lol'd.

 

[Lennholm]

It isn't a question of the connector, its the throughput of the bus. As long as the iPhone 5, iPod Touch (5G) and iPad 4 can take advantage of USB 3 (or better still, Thunderbolt), accessory makers will get onboard.

Not quite, the dock connector provides stuff like analog audio and discrete video channels, USB doesn't and won't. This means accessories that use audio and/or video only can be relatively simple and cheap because they don't have to have a USB controller.
It could be that the reason they move the HP jack to the bottom is to replace the dock connector with a standard micro-USB connector and move the discrete channels to the HP jack. Placing the HP jack att the bottom keeps them in one place and enables one unified connector, although I can't see Apple making such a asymmetrical multi-pronged connector.

All you guys are missing the boat here. A smaller dock connector was an inevitability. The bad part is the report (if true) that the headphone jack will be on the bottom.

I am one of many iPhone users who often cannot make it through a day on one charge, hence I use a Mophie Juice Pack--in the past I've used other "wraparound" external batteries as well. Put that headphone jack on the bottom, and (thanks, Tim!) you'll have to go through the extra step of sliding that spiffy new iPhone out of your Mophie whenever you want to listen to music or have a better or slightly more private call.

Or (better still!) there'll be yet another cottage industry of accessories. This time you'll have to buy both an external battery and a headphone plug extender.

Does this remind anyone of the stupid, totally unnecessary recessed headphone jack on the original iPhone?

Bad move, Apple...

But if the dock connector is redesigned your existing Mophie Juice Pack wont fit anyway, it would have to be redesigned as well and if the HP jack is there it could possibly have a connector bridge built in.

 

[johncrab]

Another point which would make this a truly stupid move by Apple is their effort to integrate iPhones into cars. A lot of manufacturers are already on board. This would drop a lot of problems on them and their dealers as BMW owners realize their new iPhones no longer work with their cars and demand that the car's interface be changed. So who pays for that upgrade? The consumer? Buy a new iPhone and end up with a four figure bill in order to connect it the same as the last model? This could simply kill iPhone sales. Let's see if Schiller pulls this much of a bonehead move.

Personally I think Apple is feeding these rumors in order to get feedback and so far it has all been negative. They do watch these forums to see what customers are thinking. I believe this is really just a test to see how committed the market is to the existing connector.

 

[Gemütlichkeit]

I just hope it's like the magsafe connectors hwere it doesn't matter which direction it's plugged into.

 

[Zaft]

Is that a freaking joke? you mean all the accessories that i have bought would be obsolete soon? Way to tell people to use Android instead, Apple!

You didnt seriously think apple would keep the SAME connectoer forever did you?

 

[dilbert99]

How does changing the dock connector render all accessories obsolete? ...

What they mean is that when they upgrade from an earlier iPhone to a later one, their old dock accessories then become obsolete.

They will after all upgrade their phone many times over time.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

Everytime this thread pops there are always missinformed people preaching about how micro usb cannot do video/audio/tv etc. You people have no clue as to what your talking about. It CAN in fact do all of those things.

no USB can not do it directly. IT would require said device to be able to do USB host and read that infomation. It is not like an anolog output currently on 30 pin or a standard output.

 

[Jynto]

I am almost certain that the new dock connector will be compatible with Thunderbolt. Whether it is compatible with micro-USB is another question. I'd like to believe that it will be. But if it is, it probably won't be able to get the full speed of USB 3. The device end of USB 3 is slightly larger, like this:

So if you want faster syncing, you'll probably have to pay $50 for a Thunderbolt cable. Otherwise just use the USB option.

 

[rendevouspoo]

Bet you can't wait to plug your Samsung nexus galaxy chocolate sponge cake world edition with tingling sense HD powered by android 4.1 beta with 3D into your iPod dock.

Almost every single android phones have universal inputs and outputs. Hell, I am still able to use my 5 year old blackberry charger on my Razr.

 

[tbrinkma]

Isn't that exactly what MHL USB is for? Not that Apple will adopt that either.

Which version? 5-pin or 11-pin? 5-pin can be done using a USB connector (but not by using the USB protocols), 11-pin (the only one used on a smart phone to date) can't.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_High-Definition_Link#Connectors

 

[northernbaldy]

This is outrageous!
How dare they! What will I do with all my old scart cables?
I bet the new phone won't play vinyl either!
Shocking!







Tongue firmly in cheek, however, I will need a slack handful of adapters

 

[Sjhonny]

Apple should just make it a micro-USB, now that they are adept at putting standard ports on the Retina MBP (HDMI, USB 3). Didn't the EU mandate that all phones sold needed to connect (or charge) via micro-USB or the manufacturer must provide an adapter free of charge? This would be one way to bring the cost down further (and keep the margin higher) by using a standard jack like this....proprietary connectors are so 1986 (ADB, anyone?)

1. Micro-USB is USB and only USB. So no (direct) Video or Sound output.
2. Apple sells a converter for Micro-USB adapters to 'comply' with the EU's request. It's not mandatory.
3. Probably the only reason why Apple includes a HDMI port in the MBPr is because the HDMI standard committee forces companies to add a physical HDMI port to comply with the 1.4 standard (4k video output). Thunderbolt would be more then capable of supporting this standard with the use of an adapter, but this ain't allowed.
4. Apple waited this long with adding support for USB 3 because before Ivy Bridge, you had to add an extra chip on the MoBo if you wanted to support USB 3. Now it's included in the chipset.

 

[charliecc]

Hardly. They're already close to that number after two quarters. Suspect they'll come close to doubling those numbers.

So it's your view that tens of millions of people are making a choice to buy an iPhone out of blind devotion to the Apple brand and ignorance of their choices?

Do you not see how deeply arrogant you're being? You can see the truth and all those who think differently to you are just idiots? Is this how you talk to people face to face or do you find that people just don't like to spend time with you in real life?

I don't think I'm over estimating the ignorance of people at all, and I think you're comments are bordering on offensive, please stick to the subject matter, petty derogatory comments will only undermine your argument.

When I speak to friends of mine (yes shock horror I do have some friends) with an iPhone and they see my phone, 8 times out of 10 they have no idea what it is, even when I tell them the name and the operating system it runs. When I show them the phone and what it can do, most of them say they'll consider switching when the time comes. So yes, I would say many people are ignorant of the capabilities of other phones.

Now here's the key point, the reason they are ignorant isn't necessarily their fault. The Google marketing machine is poor at best, so the information just isn't out there for the average person that has little time to devote to their next smart phone purchase. Keeping abreast of the latest and greatest phone is not top of everyone's list.

When Apple brought out the first iPhone is was truly revolutionary and changed the market forever. I remember the first time I used it, it blew me away. Now, imagine someone that got an iPhone during this time period or saw someone else who had. It's streaks ahead of anything else at the time. But like most people they're not really interested in the goings on in the smart phone market as time passes, their phone works well and that's all they care about. Why not just get the next iPhone when it comes out. So yes, I do think most iPhone buyers are ignorant to the competition, why else would anyone now buy an iPhone, but I certainly understand the reasons for their ignorance.

 

[Jibbajabba]

Whats all that moaning about the connector .. Apple uses the same for almost 10 years ... Nokia changed theirs with almost every damn phone .. I got at least three different ones here in the drawer ..