"Rev B" 2010 Macbook Pro's

[Gorilla Power]

As I said "my friend", I'm not gonna argue. Think what ever you want
And I'm sure you will...
Luck in your life!

WHAT don't you want to "argue" about dude ????????????

You just realize you've no crapping clue of what you're posting and you say "I'm not gonna argue", that's the quickest way to skip the thread you know that ?

What do I have to think - the "whatever" that you're referring to ? Whatever you're writing just doesn't make any sense whatsoever !

 

[mikeo007]

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The present MacBook Pros don't have any problem to start with.
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Ignorant statement. Several sources have reported heat, freezing, battery and graphics switching problems among other minor problems.

 

[Gorilla Power]

Ignorant statement. Several sources have reported heat, freezing, battery and graphics switching problems among other minor problems.

The graphics switching is a SOFTWARE problem. When its fixed it will be done through an OSX update. I hope your intelligent enough to understand we're talking about hardware problems here.

Heat, freezing, battery problems - post your source links pointing out how they are plaguing current gen MBPs in a considerable scale. Then we'll see who's ignorant.

 

[mikeo007]

The graphics switching is a SOFTWARE problem. When its fixed it will be done through an OSX update. I hope your intelligent enough to understand we're talking about hardware problems here.

Heat, freezing, battery problems - post your source links pointing out how they are plaguing current gen MBPs in a considerable scale. Then we'll see who's ignorant.

Read my previous post and try to understand. A problem is a problem. I already said that software fixes are possible for some things and even some of the perceived hardware problems may simply have software fixes. Why you feel the need to lash out at anyone who questions Apple is beyond me, but your bias is clear in everything you write.

Give me your mailing address and I'll gladly send you a newspaper article with regards to the battery and heat problems. The freezing problem is a bit newer without a lot of coverage yet and may be another software fix.

 

[aiqw9182]

Before 2011 there isn't much available to upgrade other than the GPU. Maybe it will go the way of the Early 2009 iMac and just get a graphics update before a major change. Apple has to do something about the IGP problem on the 13".

 

[diablo2112]

No problems here! My 15", i7, 7200, matte hi-res is a sweet as a nut.

Awesome battery life, low heat, perfect screen, blisteringly fast as well. My first mac and the best laptop I have owned in almost 20 years of using them.

What you need to do is stop listening to the whiners and buy one and see for yourself.

+1. My experience as well. Same configuration, though I installed an SSD, so I guess I'm uber-blisteringly fast. Awesome laptop, best I've ever owned, no problems at all. Routinely get 7+ hours of battery life.

 

[Gorilla Power]

Read my previous post and try to understand. A problem is a problem. I already said that software fixes are possible for some things and even some of the perceived hardware problems may simply have software fixes. Why you feel the need to lash out at anyone who questions Apple is beyond me, but your bias is clear in everything you write.

Give me your mailing address and I'll gladly send you a newspaper article with regards to the battery and heat problems. The freezing problem is a bit newer without a lot of coverage yet and may be another software fix.

I feel the urge to lash out because you're judging a stranger and calling him ignorant without looking at yourself first.

You need to read my last post too. I said - when iMacs had display problems, everyone started rejecting it - and its an instinctive thing to do irrespective of the company or brand since you're paying thousands of dollars for it. A consumer should never settle for anything less than perfect.

On the other hand, Apple is selling millions of computers. There's absolutely no way that every single one of these machines will be immaculate. Its never so with any company and any product, not just computers. We're talking about Apple here since this is a Mac forum. Go to any other forum and you'll find the same thing being iterated by customers.

To come back to the original topic for one last time - a revision is done when a series has major widespread problems. Some MBP examples from the past as follows, although some of them are software related again:

http://www.tuaw.com/2009/08/03/macbook-pro-owners-report-hard-drive-lag/

http://theappleblog.com/2009/03/06/graphics-problems-surface-with-17-macbook-pro/

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/08/11/apple_hdd_fix/

Now you say you have articles of current-gen MBP problems that have been printed in the newspapers but are not on tech blogs or online forums ? Nice try. You don't need my address, most newspapers have online versions too, so feel free to PM me the links of the articles, okay ? I'll wait for them.

Anyway, the current generation of notebooks fortunately don't have such issues, there's nothing serious that Apple needs to revise, so my original point to the OP was not to be afraid to buy a MBP now. That's what this thread is all about.

I hope you understand this time what I'm saying.

 

[apolloa]

You know, reading this thread pretty much is the meaning of:

"Never argue with an idiot, he'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience"

 

[mikeo007]

I feel the urge to lash out because you're judging a stranger and calling him ignorant without looking at yourself first.

You need to read my last post too. I said - when iMacs had display problems, everyone started rejecting it - and its an instinctive thing to do irrespective of the company or brand since you're paying thousands of dollars for it. A consumer should never settle for anything less than perfect.

On the other hand, Apple is selling millions of computers. There's absolutely no way that every single one of these machines will be immaculate. Its never so with any company and any product, not just computers. We're talking about Apple here since this is a Mac forum. Go to any other forum and you'll find the same thing being iterated by customers.

To come back to the original topic for one last time - a revision is done when a series has major widespread problems. Some MBP examples from the past as follows, although some of them are software related again:

http://www.tuaw.com/2009/08/03/macbook-pro-owners-report-hard-drive-lag/

http://theappleblog.com/2009/03/06/graphics-problems-surface-with-17-macbook-pro/

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/08/11/apple_hdd_fix/

Now you say you have articles of current-gen MBP problems that have been printed in the newspapers but are not on tech blogs or online forums ? Nice try. You don't need my address, most newspapers have online versions too, so feel free to PM me the links of the articles, okay ? I'll wait for them.

Anyway, the current generation of notebooks fortunately don't have such issues, there's nothing serious that Apple needs to revise, so my original point to the OP was not to be afraid to buy a MBP now. That's what this thread is all about.

I hope you understand this time what I'm saying.

I think you're misunderstanding what I'm pointing out here, or you're just trying to drag me into an argument. I never commented on any of your post except for the one tiny portion stating that there were no problems with the current crop of macbook pros. I said it was ignorant (didn't say you were ignorant as a person, just that your particular post was) because it was, you were ignoring the plethora of data that suggests there are several problems with the 2010 MBPs.

I wasn't the one commenting on people bashing other companies compared to Apple, so I don't know why you brought that up again after quoting my post.

The paper in which I was reading the article is the Globe and Mail, you're welcome to search their website to try and locate it. It focussed mostly on the battery life issues.

Several tech blogs and magazines have directly addressed the heat issues (engadget and macworld are two that come to mind), although the now infamous 100+ degree i7 macbook seems to be all anyone really concentrates on with regards to macbooks overheating.

Battery issues have been reported in virtually every review of the new macbook pros. Some have speculated it is related to the graphics switching bugs, while others believe it may be due to problems specifically with the i-series processors.

Also, let's not forget the GPU switching issue. Even you agree that it is an issue, and regardless of whether it's a software or hardware problem, it makes your original statement false. There are in fact problems with the new macbook pros.

All that being said, I still don't think these issues are deal breakers, and certainly par for the course in today's fast moving tech world. But pretending there aren't problems is just silly. If everyone is happy with mediocrity in our products, then that's all we'll ever get.

 

[wirelessmacuser]

I don't think there were any more 'bad' MBP than there are in any mass production scenario.

Excellent point!

It's important to remember that any mass produced product is going to yield a faulty component here and there. If that was not the case there would be no need for a warranty.

Apple has great quality control and customer service. What more could one want?

I've owned over two dozen Apple laptops and have only had one major failure... a hard drive, and Apple didn't build it. Like every other part it was from a vendor, thus it wasn't a faulty Apple computer but rather a simple hard drive failure. Happens to all of them at one time or another. Sooner or later components will wear out or fail. It's the nature of computers.

 

[murdercitydevil]

Hahahahaa! Just laugh at it: "... have ABSOLUTELY no idea... "... AHAHAHAHA!
Ok ok you boy. I'm not gonna argue. Think what ever you want... :_________D hahahahah. Sorry... I just can't stop laughing, you "enlarged" my life... :_)

Emmm... ahh... what I was going to say?
Oh yes! I remembered:

I just wanted to add that there is a curious "fenomena", wich is: when Acer makes a bad bunch of PC like Apple had, in a year every one is going to say: "DONT BUY AN ACER! OMG THEY ARE ****! AAAAAAAAHHH! Just buy an ASUS, wich is AMAZING! OOOH yes, oooh yes!".
Then somethin' similar happens to Asus, and it's time for HP on next year. And then... well, you know the cycle. Dont you?

But with Apple? What happens with Apple?

You know... the "tiny little whitey lighting apple" fenomena... ^^
Really feels good with a hot coffe coup in the other hand, ah?

@_@

that's all i have to say to that

 

[LucidPsychosis]

Given the fact that the new MBPs are now just over a month old, work fantastically, and considering Apple's usual 10-monthish cycle (which was longer on the last cycle), I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't see any new MBPs in 2010. We can count on new MBs and MBAs, but I think that the April refresh will be the only 2010 MBP revision.

 

[runebinder]

Hope you understand, and if not, just wait for your crash. Cause inevitably it will happen. And time will give me reason.
This is an "all-MBP-problem", that will start to appear soon for the "lucky" ones (cause they're in the "Care" time), and pretty late for the big major unlucky percent.
And soon, Apple is going to release a new Revision, and THEN is when they probably will make the "announcement" about the isues that they have RIGHT NOW.

You just keep simply forgetting how Apple do the things and bussines.

So you're saying my MBP which so far has had 0 issues, is going to fail soon as there's a critical flaw with all MBPs, where's your evidence to back up this statement?

Sounds like you're one of the unlucky few who got a lemon, and are just bitter and wishing the same on everyone else.

 

[vant]

A tiny fraction of users report a problem with overheating.

Welcome to the world of mass production laptops.

Just because a few people claim their laptops are overheating, does that mean its a mass problem? Are people flocking to Apple stores in droves to try and remedy their issues?

No. Nothing is going wrong, and even if it did you have the most convenient warranty in the industry to back it up. Nothing beats taking your laptop in and describing the problem face to face. And if there is a mass problem, Apple's reputation will handle it. Case in point: 8600M, despite the fact that its not even Apple's fault they will repair it for free for two years and on a case-by-case basis after that. Many users have received replacements (upgrades) because of this issue. Not bad at all. My GF had problems with her white macbook (before she sold it) in regards to the cracking plastic. She got it fixed 2 years out of warranty for free.

 

[apolloa]

A tiny fraction of users report a problem with overheating.

Welcome to the world of mass production laptops.

Just because a few people claim their laptops are overheating, does that mean its a mass problem? Are people flocking to Apple stores in droves to try and remedy their issues?

No. Nothing is going wrong, and even if it did you have the most convenient warranty in the industry to back it up. Nothing beats taking your laptop in and describing the problem face to face. And if there is a mass problem, Apple's reputation will handle it. Case in point: 8600M, despite the fact that its not even Apple's fault they will repair it for free for two years and on a case-by-case basis after that. Many users have received replacements (upgrades) because of this issue. Not bad at all. My GF had problems with her white macbook (before she sold it) in regards to the cracking plastic. She got it fixed 2 years out of warranty for free.

my friend at work had a problem with a 'sqishy' home button on his iPhone, it wasn't clicking and registering a press. Took it into the Apple store about 4 day's out of warranty, fixed for free. I had 3 of the original unibody MB Pro's because of marks on the back of the glass, one was a thumb print!! Got a brand new BTO replacement every time no questions.

Apple CS is damn good. Even if an authorised Apple reseller screws something up you can call Apple's CS and get it sorted.