longofest said:
You can unlock the ROKR, that's really easy. Trying to use a GSM phone on a bass-ackwards Verizon network (CDMA)- priceless. 😛
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Revamping the Motorola ROKR
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You can unlock the ROKR, that's really easy. Trying to use a GSM phone on a bass-ackwards Verizon network (CDMA)- priceless. 😛
Zzero0 said:
uh... the RAZR is a beautiful and innovative phone. If it is so horribly styled then why is it selling so well?
I really don't understand all the complaining about the Moto phones. But I am not a hard core cell phone user. I maybe use 200 minutes a month. I really don't understand all the complaints about UI. Just pick up the phone and dial it! Works great! If you want Aqua use a Mac!
Here is why I bought a RAZR:
thin
good looks
does what I want
no antennae to poke you while in your pocket
did i mention thin?
If you happen to be like one of those people who are constatly talking on your phone I could imagine that you might want something else, but the RAZR will meet the needs of many people.
Nokia
Nokia's head designer was escorted from the premises the other day he has just landed a job at apple apparantly . . . hmmmmmm
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Zzero0 said:
Nokia's head designer was escorted from the premises the other day he has just landed a job at apple apparantly . . . hmmmmmm
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macam said:
Agreed, if I wasn't such a gadget junkie who loves his BT syncing, thats the phone I'd own (as such its pretty much the only small non-flip Nokia that is available in America today). My Wife has one and it rocks. For some reason Nokia Phones are going out of fashion with GSM providors over here, Cingular and T-Mobile hardly have any Nokia phones, which is a shame. Why American phone companies are obsessed with Samsung and Motorola I'll never know - their phones are *****.
Failure or not,
The devices limited sales numbers due to it's limited features, do not surprise me. Why pay that much for a phone when you can buy a better phone, and a Shuffle or Nano for the same price of the ROKR. Having such limited capacity is ridiculous, especially if people wanted to bring their own music, and have enough room to buy songs on the fly.
Kudos to them for working on a new phone, but it is going to be hard to get past their current image.
840
Happy Motorola user, just don't have the ROKR, nor can I get one (Verizon)
The devices limited sales numbers due to it's limited features, do not surprise me. Why pay that much for a phone when you can buy a better phone, and a Shuffle or Nano for the same price of the ROKR. Having such limited capacity is ridiculous, especially if people wanted to bring their own music, and have enough room to buy songs on the fly.
Kudos to them for working on a new phone, but it is going to be hard to get past their current image.
840
Happy Motorola user, just don't have the ROKR, nor can I get one (Verizon)
Need some phone advice...
I'm currently shopping for a phone that will play nice with my Mac, but having problems and this looks like the perfect opportunity to ask for advice.
My ideal hypothetical phone has:
1. Bluetooth, but no camera
2. The ability to sync with my Mac
3. Color screen
4. Good battery life/reception, of course.
Oh, and I currently have Cingular, but want to switch to Verizon. I was fairly sure that the Moto E815 was perfect, besides the camera bit, but I hadn't heard so much grumbling about Motorola phones before this thread.
I'd appreciate any suggestions!
I'm currently shopping for a phone that will play nice with my Mac, but having problems and this looks like the perfect opportunity to ask for advice.
My ideal hypothetical phone has:
1. Bluetooth, but no camera
2. The ability to sync with my Mac
3. Color screen
4. Good battery life/reception, of course.
Oh, and I currently have Cingular, but want to switch to Verizon. I was fairly sure that the Moto E815 was perfect, besides the camera bit, but I hadn't heard so much grumbling about Motorola phones before this thread.
I'd appreciate any suggestions!
ibook30
macrumors 6502a
Stupid Phone.
Been saying the same thing since it was first rumored.
Now if apple made it right- I'd change my tune. And if Mass Hysteria is correct - as copied below, I may need a tune changer...
"Nokia's head designer was escorted from the premises the other day – he has just landed a job at apple apparantly . . . hmmmmmm"
Been saying the same thing since it was first rumored.
Now if apple made it right- I'd change my tune. And if Mass Hysteria is correct - as copied below, I may need a tune changer...
"Nokia's head designer was escorted from the premises the other day – he has just landed a job at apple apparantly . . . hmmmmmm"
philmo said:
Forget Verizon if you want Bluetooth on the phone to do anything other than work with a headset. Verizon cripple the bluetooth on their phones so people can't use it to transfer data as this apparently impinges on their business (i.e. charging $2.50 for a midi ringtone rather than just downloading one free off the net and uploading it to the phone using BT).
My biggest complaint with the ROKR: USB 1.1
My biggest complaint with the ROKR: USB 1.1
I really hope the new version has USB 2. If they add the other features listed in this rumor (better camera and standard headphone port) this phone would be a *much* better product. The 100 song limit really isn't that big of a deal, but it would be nice if it was bumped up and if the phone gave real podcast and audiobook support.
My biggest complaint with the ROKR: USB 1.1
I really hope the new version has USB 2. If they add the other features listed in this rumor (better camera and standard headphone port) this phone would be a *much* better product. The 100 song limit really isn't that big of a deal, but it would be nice if it was bumped up and if the phone gave real podcast and audiobook support.
Zzero0 said:
You got to kidding... I don't understand the anti-moto people. If you want a phone with blah styling and a crap interface stick with a Nokia.
840quadra said:
Heck, better than that, you could take an iPod nano and glue it to the back of a Moto RAZR, and still have a comparatively small phone. Now, considering that you'd have some space savings (you wouldn't need 2 external screens, shared battery, less package, etc) we should expect an Apple-enabled mobile to hit at least that benchmark. No?
corbin_a2 said:
I'll give you the RAZR, its a nice looking phone, but everything else motorola make looks like crap. As for the user interface, motorola have the worst user interface of any phone out there. Even people I know who love their RAZRs will admit that. Nokia have one of the clearest and best interfaces out there today, and its unified over their range of phones.
For the record, I own a Sony Ericcson phone myself, and in the past have owned Nokia, Samsung, Kyocera and Motorola phones. Nokia have by far the best UI out of all these phones. The Motorola phone I had had an interface so unusable it took me about 10 key presses to make a call from the phone book. RAZR is improved, but still lags behind both SE and Nokia (Nokia is the better of the two).
dr_lha said:
I wouldn't say Motorola has the worst UI. I actually find the Sony phones to be the worst. I definitely agree with you that Nokia makes the best UI in terms of phones, but I have yet to see the "perfect" phone UI yet.
All in all, it will be a LOOOONG time before I touch anything Sony. They write some of the worst software code and worst DRM. Can anyone say ROOTKIT?
Sony is out of my book for a while.
w00master
That phone is awesome. It's the tiniest color phone I've ever used. My wife has one on Cingluar. It's just so slightly different because she got it a year ago. But it's narrower and just slighly longer than a business card. Extremely light, and yes, it has the coolest ringtones. Cheesy, but great.
They sold them here for about a month as far as I can tell. She saw one, then she had to hunt around to get it when she decided it was what she wanted.
I've got the motorola V551 on cingular. It sycs to .mac with a $10 usb cable. It also fits in the cradle of a cell socket so I can use it to power my entire house for phone usage.
The only thing that sucks about the v551 from motorola is that the contact list is sluggish to scroll through. Otherwise it looks cool, feels cool (rubberized finish), and is solid as hell. A little weightier than most flip phones.
They sold them here for about a month as far as I can tell. She saw one, then she had to hunt around to get it when she decided it was what she wanted.
I've got the motorola V551 on cingular. It sycs to .mac with a $10 usb cable. It also fits in the cradle of a cell socket so I can use it to power my entire house for phone usage.
The only thing that sucks about the v551 from motorola is that the contact list is sluggish to scroll through. Otherwise it looks cool, feels cool (rubberized finish), and is solid as hell. A little weightier than most flip phones.
macam said:
Not gonna happen.
Apple won't let iTunes work with a phone that can store 1000 songs. Doing so would cannibalize iPod sales. Part of Apple's philosophy with the ROKR was to limit it to 100 songs so everyone would see how much cellular phones suck as MP3 players and how much better the iPod is. This strategy certainly worked with the ROKR.
The only exception to this would be an "Apple-branded" phone where Apple actually gets some of the revenue for the phone sales.
Apple won't let iTunes work with a phone that can store 1000 songs. Doing so would cannibalize iPod sales. Part of Apple's philosophy with the ROKR was to limit it to 100 songs so everyone would see how much cellular phones suck as MP3 players and how much better the iPod is. This strategy certainly worked with the ROKR.
The only exception to this would be an "Apple-branded" phone where Apple actually gets some of the revenue for the phone sales.
Oh cm' on! Not another cell phone war... My SE is better than your Moto is better than your Nokia is better....
The phones are so similar today, I personally like the menu structure of Motos much better than that of SEs.
Apple - unfortunately - forced Motorola to release a basically 2 years old phone (Moto E398) with a crippled iTunes just not to endanger the iPods.
Look at the RAZR V3i and SLVR L7, these are going to be the _real_ iTunes phones!
The phones are so similar today, I personally like the menu structure of Motos much better than that of SEs.
Apple - unfortunately - forced Motorola to release a basically 2 years old phone (Moto E398) with a crippled iTunes just not to endanger the iPods.
Look at the RAZR V3i and SLVR L7, these are going to be the _real_ iTunes phones!
dr_lha said:
Are you saying that if I get a Motorola E815 with Verizon I can't sync its calendar and adress book with iCal and the Mac address book? Or do they somehow block transfers of ringtones but allow syncing address books.
Either way, that sucks. I'm sure Verizon isn't going to offer a Kid Icarus theme ringtone. 🙂
Kingsly
macrumors 68040
I agree with etracer. Either Steve has lost his mind or he plans on releasing a 4 and 8 gb iPod nano to counter the 1000 song ROKR. Or, in my opionion, that aspect of the rumor is not true. You're right in saying the ROKR was limited by Apple, weather or not to show the public how much mp3 phones suck i'll never know.
As far as im concerned I will never get an iTunes phone as long at thier made by motorola. They seriously need to buy a few sony and nokia phones and have thier engineers ponder over the superior OS. In sony's case its like comparing 10.4 to windows 95!! Get with the program motorola!!!!!
If anyone can pull off a stylish and "totally great" mp3 cell phone it WILL be Apple and ONLY Apple. Keep those fingers crossed during Macworld 2006!
As far as im concerned I will never get an iTunes phone as long at thier made by motorola. They seriously need to buy a few sony and nokia phones and have thier engineers ponder over the superior OS. In sony's case its like comparing 10.4 to windows 95!! Get with the program motorola!!!!!
If anyone can pull off a stylish and "totally great" mp3 cell phone it WILL be Apple and ONLY Apple. Keep those fingers crossed during Macworld 2006!
dr_lha said:
That's because Nokia is integrating WiFi and VoIP into their mobiles big time. Most of the American phone companies are obsessed with locking even smaller features such as transferring a pic you take with your phone into your own computer without sending it through their network. You can imagine such phone companies aren't exactly exited about the new Nokia phones and aren't buying any Nokia phones...