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Revamping the Motorola ROKR
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philmo said:
Out of the box the E815 can't do any of those things (OK - it might be able to do calendar syncing with iSync, but reports are spotty). You have to hack the phone to make it have full Bluetooth functionality. Here is a thread describing it:
http://forums.macosxhints.com/showthread.php?t=42102
Requires a Windows XP machine 🙄
Question is, should you support a company that purposefully cripples its phones to try to make you use their expensive ringtones / picture downloads? Why do you have to spend 50cents emailing a picture from your phone to yourself when you should be able to transfer it using bluetooth for free?
dr_lha said:
I agree. I was just curious.
I'm all for voting with my dollars when it comes to supporting ethical companies. I'd be more than happy to buy a phone from another company if there existed a cell phone with the features that I want. 🙂
philmo said:
Yes, I voted with my wallet after the V710 came out on Verizon. I really wanted a BT phone, but it was so crippled I switched over to AT+T and a SE T637, which does everything I need (works wonderfully with iSync through BT). Verizon used to be all about quality and service, but now they have become a large evil company, and I won't do business with them anymore.
That said, Cingular are getting just as bad.
Sometimes I think I should just give up and become a hermit. 😉
Mass Hysteria said:
You sir, are completely and utterly WRONG. Frank Nuovo has not left Nokia, nor is there any indication that he will.
(Jonathan Ive designs the pants off that guy anyway)
cheekyspanky
macrumors 6502a
Over the last two weeks I've been using several phones, an LG U8360 a Nokia N70 and a Motorola V3x.
LG was the worst to use, with Nokia and Motorola both having pretty much an equal number of positives and negatives.
The V3 has been a great success though, it's amazing it's still a good seller despite having been on sale for over a year.
LG was the worst to use, with Nokia and Motorola both having pretty much an equal number of positives and negatives.
The V3 has been a great success though, it's amazing it's still a good seller despite having been on sale for over a year.
dr_lha said:
I was a reasonably happy Verizon customer 2 years ago, but tempted by a good AT&T deal and a bad experience with the "help" at a Verizon store I switched. AT&T was okay, but seems to have really gone downhill when it was switched to Cingular. Now my calls get dropped at a ridiculous rate (I'd guess 4 times per hour of usage) and am very unhappy with their customer support.
Eh. Maybe I should look at T-Mobile instead. Or the hermit thing...
philmo said:
Yeah, I had that issue a few months ago with Cingular, the transistion period was pretty crappy. It seems to have cleared up now though, and I'm fairly happy again.
I'm definitely not as happy with Cingular as I was with AT&T though. AT&T did some sweet deals for employees of the Uni I work for, 1 year only contract with very cheap phones, 10% discount off service.
Cingular don't even seem to have heard of a "1 year contract" these days, its 2 years or nothing.
Don't even get me started on the whole "charging 10 cents for incoming SMSs" thing!
madamimadam
macrumors 65816
macam said:
Because Motorola's design hurts Motorola but pays Apple
Seems pretty simple
You not going to buy an iPod because you don't like a Motorola phone that has iTunes?
macam said:
Everyone I've met with the E398, which I'm lead to believe it pretty much the same as the phone in question but with no iTunes, thinks they are great expect for geeks who post on Apple forums. The only problem I have is a couple of little software issues such as no automatic key lock and when I set a personal ring tone for someone in my phonebook that ringtone is also used for messages.
Zzero0 said:
Why does Apple need to take a clue... iTunes looked pretty good last time I checked
Hattig said:
They would make money from that fantastic idea how?
electronboy said:
Yeah, so I liked how your "probably" became a truth at the end there. How about you come back with a little evidence.
electronboy said:
I'm getting a feeling like you aren't really much of an Apple fan but, if that is the case, what are you doing here? I hope you life isn't so painful that this is how you stop the razor from reaching your wrists.
dr_lha said:
All the regular people (non-techos) that I've met that have a NEW Motorola say they are fantastic. The SE interface really has to be learnt because it is not user friendly. Someone like me who is a little more cluely on tech stuff can easily find my way around and work a SE phone but these phones should be made for the masses. Nokia is mostly quite good but I've been told that, again, for a regular person some of the features outside of make a call or send a message can be tricky to get to. On one of the phones I know someone who said they hated using Bluetooth because they had to go through too many menus. Now, there may be a shortcut for this but if the average person can not find it then it is hopeless.
I must admit though, the Motorola interface only becomes easy when you switch the menu from icons to words and icons but on the plus side it offers you the customisation page as the first screen when you start up your phone for the first time.
etracer said:
Again, do we have some fact to back up this claim of Apple doing this?
Not my experience, and clearly not the experience of many of the posters on here. Actually one of the "regular" people I know exchanged his RAZR because "Great phone, but I can't figure out how to use it", he got a Samsung instead and is very happy, despite the extra "chunkyness".madamimadam said:
madamimadam
macrumors 65816
dr_lha said:
Again, the posters aren't regular people and instead represent a selection of geeks who like to have a say... far from a true distribution of the demographic now isn't it?!
Really, if you have it set up in word mode, what could be so hard. I want to make a phone call, I press "Phonebook" and either scroll to the person or press the letter of their name. I want to send a message, I press "Messages" and "New Message" and then I type. If you can't understand an interface like that you need to face the fact that you are too dumb to own a mobile phone.
dr_lha said:
Sorry, don't agree. Nokia phones are the worst in my book. The UI is just junk, I don't like it. I never had any problems with Motorola's (I have have had about every new model since the Startac.). I have a E815 now and love it! Different people have different opinions, but to say that all Motorola phones are crap is just wrong.
I am surprised that these phones keep coming out, i mean wouldn't they cut into the ipod sales and then with the phones apple has to share the profits with Motorola.
Just seems like the ipod is the way to go for apple or for them to make their own ipod phone that revolves around the ipod design, that would be sweet.😀
Just seems like the ipod is the way to go for apple or for them to make their own ipod phone that revolves around the ipod design, that would be sweet.😀
Huh?
The RAZR is "sad on styling?" You are in the definite minority bub. Or perhaps you're one of the few tooling around in a stylish Pontiac Aztek?
Motorola, in case you haven't noticed, is on a tear (check the stock man). Flip phones offer a choice benefit: SMALL SIZE! Geez, I can't believe this needs to be pointed out. The iPod NANO is popular for the same reason.
Motorola ain't perfect, but it beats the phones the others are selling, at least on style. The Samsungs and Sanyos are among the most overstyled phones out there (read: UGLY). I realize some of this is personal, but the RAZR is a certifiable hit regardless.
The RAZR is "sad on styling?" You are in the definite minority bub. Or perhaps you're one of the few tooling around in a stylish Pontiac Aztek?
Motorola, in case you haven't noticed, is on a tear (check the stock man). Flip phones offer a choice benefit: SMALL SIZE! Geez, I can't believe this needs to be pointed out. The iPod NANO is popular for the same reason.
Motorola ain't perfect, but it beats the phones the others are selling, at least on style. The Samsungs and Sanyos are among the most overstyled phones out there (read: UGLY). I realize some of this is personal, but the RAZR is a certifiable hit regardless.
Zzero0 said:
madamimadam said:
Yeah it may pay apple but I feel slightly let down by them - as I work in the telecoms industry and was highly looking forward to Apple's first forray into the mobile phone sector. It's such a huge market that he couldn't possibly get into otherwise...
madamimadam said:
You calling me a geek!?😱 - As I mentioned before I work in the industry - everyone who uses a Motorola for a while gets so fed up with it that they either go back to SE or Nokia. I don't know where you're posting from but in the UK - the trend that I am seeing - within the SME market and Blue Chip companies - are tending to go for Nokia phones and then they go for the SE phones.
madamimadam said:
I think that's untrue - just because you're a techy person - doesn't mean that the people beneath you can't do stuff. I know complete technophobes who are able to pair a bluetooth headset for the first time (like my mum!) without any help and she has a nokia!
I think we're going to have to agree that it's completely down to personal preference, and also what you're used to. I grew up using Windows. Knew how it worked and loved it because I didn't know any different! Then I switched... because I was introduced to Mac and loved the simplicity, design, GUI etc etc...
madamimadam said:
However you look at it - you have about twice as many clicks to do the simplist thing on a moto.
Sorry not trying to sound harsh here... just giving my 2 cents worth! Still can't believe you called me a geek tho!!!!!😀
macam
madamimadam
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macam said:
You can't call a personal experience untrue. This is what this person told me and therefore it is true in their experience. Like I said, there may have been an easy way to do it but if they couldn't work out the easy way then the UI didn't work for them. I didn't say the regular person couldn't do it just that it was difficult.
macam said:
How do you figure? Call someone = PhoneBook (1-click), Scroll (1-click), Ring button (1-click). How could you do it in less?
macam said:
You are posting on a forum called macrumors... what, are you a uni student doing a study on geebs? I'd say you are likely a geek!
haunebu said:
I referred to the HEAD designer of Nokia he worked in Farnborough here in the UK, not the Vice President of Nokia and CHIEF Designer!
. . . and yes he was frog-marched from the building when they found he had a new job with Apple
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with flip phones, I just personally don't like them, and would rather that phone companies would allow me to choose whether I want one or not, rather than having 25 flip phones and one low end regular phone.Tupring said:
If you look at the UK market you'll find that you get a much larget choice of phones, and that is really all I want from the US carriers: Choice.
Yeah, I'm thinking when I switch thats who I'll go with. Both Verizon and Cingular give crappy deals now ($14 a month extra on a share plan to get nights starting from 7pm instead of 9pm? On AT&T 7pm nighhts were standard on my plan).Tupring said: