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but I still don’t get the idea of making the iPad into something it’s not.

you might as well get a MacBook since the price is almost the same when adding the keyboard

I have both - a 15” MBP with specs blown up to the best available (incl. the graphics card) and the big iPad Pro with the Magic Keyboard and the Pencil. Both are mine alone (nobody else uses them) and they serve different purposes. I tend to use the MBP for “serious work” ie when I’m dealing with code and/or sitting in my office plugged into an external screen.

The iPad is for browsing the web / reading news at home, or doing “light work” like management stuff (delegating tasks, chatting on Slack) when I am out of the office and there’s no need to haul the Mac from the backpack. And I use it a lot for sketching ideas with the Pencil (helped me go fully paperless).

With iPhone, Apple Watch and Airpods I was never happier with my work/life/workout tech stack.

I aso think there are people like my mom who need a device bigger than the iPhone but simpler than the Mac - iPad works great for her needs even if the price tag is closer to a lower spec Mac. The UI/UX is so similar to iPhone she didn’t need to learn anything new.
 
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I have both - a 15” MBP with specs blown up to the best available (incl. the graphics card) and the big iPad Pro with the Magic Keyboard and the Pencil. Both are mine alone (nobody else uses them) and they serve different purposes. I tend to use the MBP for “serious work” ie when I’m dealing with code and/or sitting in my office plugged into an external screen.

The iPad is for browsing the web / reading news at home, or doing “light work” like management stuff (delegating tasks, chatting on Slack) when I am out of the office and there’s no need to haul the Mac from the backpack. And I use it a lot for sketching ideas with the Pencil (helped me go fully paperless).

With iPhone, Apple Watch and Airpods I was never happier with my work/life/workout tech stack.

I aso think there are people like my mom who need a device bigger than the iPhone but simpler than the Mac - iPad works great for her needs even if the price tag is closer to a lower spec Mac. The UI/UX is so similar to iPhone she didn’t need to learn anything new.
I use my iPad like you as well, for web browsing, watching shows from the couch. But every time I try to do any work on it I get too frustrated..
 
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I use my iPad like you as well, for web browsing, watching shows from the couch. But every time I try to do any work on it I get too frustrated..

Depends on work. I can talk to my teammates on Slack, look into some basic support tickets, check sales statistics, check the community and such. I have lots of ops that can be done on any device.

But writing code (I’m a web developer) is still a pain on the iPad, works much faster on a Mac with a local server / Docker box and proper IDE.
 
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Bought one for my wife to use for work and had that noted issue with her port replicator USB-C plug being too thick for the case cutout. About two minutes with my dremel took care of that though. She loves the thing, and uses the heck out of it. Ordered directly through the Apple store website and was delivered two days later. Not sure why Logitech is only doing preorders.
 
Too bad Apple made it difficult for Logitech to design the case to make the keyboard removable like on prior genertions. I’m currently using the back from a similar logitech keyboard/kickstand combo for the Gen 2 iPP 12.9 in conjunction with the ASK. Great combo. Being able to pull off the front cover and just go with a kickstand comes in very handy, and if I ever want to go lighter I just remove the back case and use the ipad with the smart keyboard alone.
 
I feel like Apple was pressured by Microsoft surface... this is just me, but I still don’t get the idea of making the iPad into something it’s not.

you might as well get a MacBook since the price is almost the same when adding the keyboard. And Mac os is more capable.
I one hundred percent believe this. There would be no iPad Pro, Apple Pencil, iPad OS, Mouse support and unfortunately the stupid touch bar. What makes me dislike Apples strategy is the fact that because they want you to buy a Mac and an iPad to get more money, they wont just release a tablet with MacOS (OS X) on it. Their excuse for MacOS no optimized for touch screens is absurd. Neither is Windows 10 or android or linux and guess what, people still buy them quirks and all. The reason Apple lost me was because of not having a product similar to the Surface with a full desktop os.I bought the Surface RT which wasn't really a great machine and soon quit using my Macbook Pro. It came with full office, which is where my work lies in anyway, could hook it up to a keyboard mouse and monitor and work on it when I wanted. For me all I need was a torrent app, vlc, spotify, netflix when it came to apps and thy were all availabe on the Surface RT in one fasion or another. The battery life was great. If i wanted to game I had aan Xbox. After that went the iPhone for a Windows Mobile phone etc. Even though I loved OS X and Apple the tablet desktop pc form factor and its versatility beat out my love for it. Also Windows 8 was and still is such a much better OS for touch based computers or tablets than what Android and iOS and Windows 10 have today. If I could put Windows 8 on my Surface now I would because it really was just that awesome.
 
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Said it a few days ago, will say it again - good luck using the Logitech on an airliner. No way will that thing fit on a tray table
Leaving aside the fact nobody’s really flying if they can help it in the near future, the “tray table” you refer to isn’t a standard size, and varies hugely by airline and class of travel.
 
I like the fact that it has function keys but it does look bulky. Possibly offers more protection but it's just ugly. I squeezed out extra money and went for ipad magic keyboard which is amazing. The downside of my choice is that i am not using my iPad as i initially intended to as this acts now like a mini laptop rather than tablet.
 
I mean if I’m gonna spend $200 Cad on a keyboard id rather go with the Apple option. That being said I’m regretting the butterfly keyboard on my 15’ pro so I’m gonna be prioritizing trading in and upgrading to the 16’ with the old keyboards lol.
 
ugh. i made this mistake with a case like that for ipad pro long ago. it made it so clumsy and cumbersome and just as heavy as a macbook.
 
Am I going mad or was the same article posted a few days ago...?
The compensation offered by Logitech must have made it worthwhile for MacRumors to compromise whatever tiny shred of their journalistic integrity is left.

How to Buy

The Folio Touch for the 11-inch iPad Pro can be pre-ordered from the Logitech website for $160.

Note: Logitech provided MacRumors with a Folio Touch for iPad Pro for the purpose of this review. No other compensation was received.

The price of their integrity is now down to $160.
 
This looks so much more practical than the MK. I'd definitely choose the Logitech version. Apple came up with a lightsaber, that doesn't even work all that well, when all that was needed was a simple pocket knife.

How is this more practical than the MK? You can't use it on your lap, you need more space to use it and it's heavier and bulkier.

I have the MK and haven't had any problems with it, it works perfectly and its so easy to just remove the iPad if you want to write notes or draw on it.
 
Kinda off-topic:

It's kinda tricky for me to figure out how to let her figure out computers on her own time. When I was a young kid, most computers weren't even hooked up to the internet so it wasn't any danger. I had some educational games on some floppy disks that I would pop into my dad's computer downstairs. Later on my grandpa bought us an older Windows 95 machine that had some CD-ROM educational games and I learned Microsoft Office. Later on I learned how to build websites in Notepad and load them onto servers. Then some kids at school gave me some discs with Photoshop, Illustrator, Flash, Visual Basic, and some other apps on them. From there I was able to learn graphic design and programming, which eventually became my career.

The internet was less dangerous then and it was a family computer in a family area. It just seems like there's no way today I would just let my daughter (or my son, in a couple years, for that matter) start tinkering with a computer, and that makes me sad.
I'm not sure if this is what you are after, but I also grew up and learned coding in an era well before the internet. I now have two kids that I'd like to teach coding and allow them to explore the joy that comes with independent interaction with a computer at a very fundamental level, without all the other stuff that gets piled on.

I grew up in a Sinclair ZX Spectrum (UK), a family computer in a family area. We are now using the FUSE emulator on a Mac and an external Text editor to write BASIC code that runs in the virtual spectrum. She is absolutely loving it. We wrote a program together called "fcol", named after one of the variables, and short for flower colour. All The program does (so far) is print randomly coloured "i"s on the screen, which look a bit like flowers. It is hard to express in words how much joy she got from this, and now talks about fcol like it is a real physical part of her life.

(If you want any pointers about how to set this up on a Mac, drop me a PM.)

However, if you want the true experience of a physical standalone machine like we had so many years ago, that your kids can interact with and explore, I suggest checking out the Spectrum Next: a reissued version of a massively updated ZX Spectrum, fully compatible with the old, but with with lots of additional capability. It is still massively underspecced (no pun intended...) compared to a modern computer of course,..but that is the point. Coding within limits, without dependency on massive shared libraries is extremely rewarding and far more accessible, and there is a very active ZX Next community software and even new games!

The Kickstarter Ver2 has already Blasted past it's funding goal in just a few days!


Good luck!
 
The magic keyboard makes the iPad pro like a perfect device with the same concept as SurfaceBook.
I don't understand why people pick the logitech one.
I watched a few reviews, the kick stand doesn't seems very stable.
And a combo this thick, why not pick a MacBook.
 
The magic keyboard makes the iPad pro like a perfect device with the same concept as SurfaceBook.
I don't understand why people pick the logitech one.
I watched a few reviews, the kick stand doesn't seems very stable.
And a combo this thick, why not pick a MacBook.
It’s half the price. Also, the kick stand is very stable. And it actually protects the iPad, unlike the apple mk. The feel of the keys is great, and the typing experience is superb for me.

I understand people wanting to get the apple mk (nicer design, extra port), but, objectively, in no way is a head scratcher choosing one over the other.
 
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OMG, WHY would you clad your iPad with this clunky case? A kick-stand? See Apple's own Smart Folio Keyboard for the most elegant solution in this space (and no, no one needs a track pad for an iPad...a mouse, maybe...but not a track pad).

Oh NO!

I thought I found it useful!

It keeps my screen clean, keeps my arms from getting tired, makes text editing much, much easier, it allows me to use the iPad multi-touch gestures one-handed with precision, and it makes the shift from typing to touching more flexible where appropriate (more input choices).

But you're right, NO ONE needs it.

Silly me!

:rolleyes:
 
Oh NO!

I thought I found it useful!

It keeps my screen clean, keeps my arms from getting tired, makes text editing much, much easier, it allows me to use the iPad multi-touch gestures one-handed with precision, and it makes the shift from typing to touching more flexible where appropriate (more input choices).

But you're right, NO ONE needs it.

Silly me!

:rolleyes:

My argument is if that’s what’s critical to you as a user, you probably need a laptop.
 
these reviews really need to bring up how the trackpad on ALL of these Logitech folio/combotouch keyboards will frequently cut out & stop working for no apparent reason. Even Logitech support doesn't know what the issue is or how to resolve it, which is pretty pathetic.
Combo touch had a software update about a month ago and problem went away. Their phone/email support has no tech training, it’s a bit ridiculous. I’m hoping they start pushing the software to other products soon.
 
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