Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
I really want to try the Sennheiser before the QC. I tested the QC at BestBuy and I was impressed by the ANC. The sounds was very good too. I had few Sennheisers in my lifetime and they were all great. I hope the PXC can get a close ANC as the Bose.
I found it tricky finding a store that carried both models, but ended up finding them in an airport duty free store before flying
 
I found it tricky finding a store that carried both models, but ended up finding them in an airport duty free store before flying
According to Sennheiser, right now only online (Amazon/Sennheiser stores) they are selling it. They did mention at Airports.
I guess, I will buy it, test it and then decide.
Pretty sure it is a solid purchase. I have never had issues with their products.
 
I meant in terms of wired mode (like the Bose headphones here). So it'd be like the Solo 3's where its 40 hours of wireless battery and unlimited with the cord.

Ah, misunderstood then. That makes sense and should be included in anything other then in-ear (due to practicality).
 
  • Like
Reactions: 480951
I tried these for 2 weeks but the sound quality ultimately is not there. Since you can't turn off ANC it impact SQ. They are light and have nice battery life but that didn't excuse the lack of SQ. Ended up with Bang & Olufsen Beoplay H8s.
 
I hope at some point retailers will be carrying the PXC. I want to try it. I had few Sennheiser headphones and always loved them. It's true the Bose ANC is pretty impressive. If Sennheiser can get close to it, that's it's a win because the sound quality is better (at least from what I have been reading).
Also the PXC seems better looking (subjective, I know) and better build. We'll see. Either headphones seems very good purchase.

For me and wireless headphones, sound quality is still job 1, with ANC a close second. If I could wire them up to get even better sound, then I could get some critical listening in.

Haven't tried the older Sennheiser Momentum 2.0 wireless yet, but from what I read they sound better musically than QC35. Hopefully someone can chime in with experience on these 3 headphone models. Like the PCX look.

BTW, I own the Bose QC25. Love them, but looking for the best well rounded phones.
 
I was seriously considering the older model of these when buying my BT headphones about a year ago. I tried them out in a quiet store quite a lot and read lots of great reviews by people who own them (which always says more than any reviewer).

But after doing lots of research, I wound up feeling that the market for BT headphones wasn't mature enough for me to lay so much money on a pair. It seemed like all the big players treated you as a hipster if you mostly like listening without a cable so all of the options were very expensive, with a clear BT premium I didn't think was justified by the component and engineering costs. The focus wasn't so much on sound quality. There just weren't enough products with enough diversity in the market, I think.

Instead I decided to go for a relatively cheap option (so I wouldn't feel I wasted so much money if I upgrade them in a few years when the market is better) that were comfortable and with the best sound quality I could find. I went with the Sony MDR-770XBN for about €130 (less than half of what I was originally prepared to spend). They're not perfect - I would like them to show battery status over Bluetooth and I've never figured out the pairing between multiple devices - but the sound quality and battery life really is very good. ANC is adequate, but I'd like a total-isolation mode and an open-back emulation mode (so you can hear the world outside).

I know it's about some completely different headphones, but just throwing my thoughts out there for anybody considering buying some BT headphones right now. If you feel the market doesn't have enough good choices for the money you're willing to spend, don't be afraid to buy something cheaper until it develops.

The iPhone 7 surely will kick-start this industry, but I think it'll be at least a year before we see a big rush of new variety.
 
Even though I plan on upgrading the Apple Bluetooth EarPods in October, I still miss the headphone Jack. It is what is.
 
I also own a pair of these in black. The sound great, and look good. I do wish the active noise canceling was adjustable...
 
I really want to try the Sennheiser before the QC. I tested the QC at BestBuy and I was impressed by the ANC. The sounds was very good too. I had few Sennheisers in my lifetime and they were all great. I hope the PXC can get a close ANC as the Bose.

Are there any big box retailers that carry the Sennheisers? Best Buy used to carry the brand but they no longer do. :(

I can't buy something like headphones that are this expensive without a chance to try them first.
 
Are there any big box retailers that carry the Sennheisers? Best Buy used to carry the brand but they no longer do. :(

I can't buy something like headphones that are this expensive without a chance to try them first.
I emailed Sennheiser and they said right now only online (Amazon/Sennheiser) and at airports. It's a bummer but I am sure if you don't like it you can return it. Check their return policy.
 
I emailed Sennheiser and they said right now only online (Amazon/Sennheiser) and at airports. It's a bummer but I am sure if you don't like it you can return it. Check their return policy.

That's nuts. Why won't Best Buy carry their stuff?
 
I use my QC15s pretty extensively at work for music and calls. I am very interested in some opinions about the microphone quality on these. It's fairly hyped on their website.
 
So, to charge them you need another different charger. How about Apple paying Bose some money to offset the cost so Bose would offer a Lightning cable/power supply instead of needing a micro USB power supply and cable?

Not heard the rumour that Apple are switching to USB-C next year and ditching the lightning port :D
 
I think it's missing to mention that iPhone still not include APTX codes and have their custom apple aac codex which is supposed to be better than APTX and these headphones are supporting!!
 
Not really. That sounds like backtracking. If they had a separate NC switch, your first assertion would be correct.

Actually this is exactly why I chose the PXC-550s over the QC35s. Sennheiser's headphones have an NC switch that lets you choose between two levels of noise-cancelling, or none at all, and all three modes are powered, so you can listen wirelessly with no ANC at all.
Ah, now I got it, thanks! I quite like my Bose headphones, but always happy to look at better options.
 
No highs, no lows, must be Bose
Buy Other Stereo Equipment
Bose Blows
Better Off with Something Else
Bose, better sound through marketing
Yep they've stepped up their marketing massively since they've gotten into the smartphone headphone game, and brought their products to the masses.
 
I bought a pair of these and returned them the next day. At mid to high volume levels the bass completely falls apart and they almost sound broken. The Verge pointed this out and I also confirmed the problem occurred with multiple headsets and with different audio tracks. Very disappointing as they seem to be the best wireless option on the market right now.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/21/1...tooth-wireless-headphones-quietcomfort-flawed
I had read the Verge report, and, also heard the same problem. What has (mostly) resolved the issue for me, was to upgrade the firmware to latest version, which helped the sound quality a LOT. I don't know if the newer iOS or iPhone or other changes to the bluetooth standard will help make it even better, but, it's totally usable, now, and I play it pretty loud and the distorted and flaky bass is largely gone...

You get the firmware updates from here: http://worldwide.bose.com/downloads/en/web/product_selection/page.html , it has an issue with MacOS Sierra still, so, you'll have to use older OS X version or Windows to upgrade...
 
Last edited:
Anybody know enough about noise cancelling to explain why they can kill engine noise, but not voices? Seems like the random, broadband noise would be a tougher challenge than speech. Is it a deliberate choice?
The headphones have to listen to the surrounding noise, generate a negative version of the current sound waves reaching your ears and then play that inverted sound on top of the ambient sound to cancel it out. There is processing power involved so there is a limit as to how often you can sample the background noise, which effectively equates to the frequency of the background noise you can cancel. The lower the frequency, the more effective the cancellation. Thus low-frequency hums, engine noise etc is cancelled more effectively than higher-frequency speech etc.
[doublepost=1474370445][/doublepost]
No highs, no lows, must be Bose
Buy Other Stereo Equipment
Bose Blows
Better Off with Something Else
Bose, better sound through marketing

Did you think of that yourself through experience or are you just regurgitating others' opinions?
 
Is there any lag between the picture and the sound when watching YouTube videos oder movies? I'm considering to buy the QC35 but only if there is no lag.
 
Last edited:
I purchased a pair of QC35s and despite what many people want to parrot I think Bose make good quality products and for noise cancelling I don't think any company does it better. I've had various Bose headphones and earphones before and like Apple products because of their brand name they retain their value well when re-selling them.

I returned the QC35s within a week or so because I could tell there are problems with this product. I know The Verge documented one issue. I had a different one, sound occasionally dropped out for less than a second. It wasn't major but it was annoying and I didn't want to put up with it on a new product. Also over the ear headphones make my (everyones?) ears get hot/sweat after more than an hour or so of use.

I think the bluetooth headphone market is going to look very different in 12 months time. Let's hope there is major progress made.
 
The headphones have to listen to the surrounding noise, generate a negative version of the current sound waves reaching your ears and then play that inverted sound on top of the ambient sound to cancel it out. There is processing power involved so there is a limit as to how often you can sample the background noise, which effectively equates to the frequency of the background noise you can cancel. The lower the frequency, the more effective the cancellation. Thus low-frequency hums, engine noise etc is cancelled more effectively than higher-frequency speech etc.
[doublepost=1474370445][/doublepost]

Did you think of that yourself through experience or are you just regurgitating others' opinions?
I bought a pair of Bose 901 speakers back in the 1980s. I heard each and every one of these witticisms. They weren't original then either. I personally liked the sound of them, and since they were for me my opinion mattered most. It's like the people who automatically HATE anything Apple. No amount of discussion or facts will change that attitude. I couldn't find unbiased information regarding Bose vs. Product X years ago, other than an older set of wired QC Headphones (10 years old) I don't have any of their products now. But I would listen and decide for myself if they were what I wanted to buy if I was in the market.
 
  • Like
Reactions: SvenSvenson and SqB
The cans had no trouble pairing with two devices and switching dynamically between them, and all my devices were remembered later and re-paired automatically.

I don't understand this at all.

First of all, what is "switching dynamically"? Does that mean it switches between two devices without pushing any button?

And what does it mean that "all" devices are "remembered"? I thought only two would pair automatically.

I would really appreciate if anybody could walk me through the steps for toggling between multiple devices, since I'm looking for headphones to use with 3+ (Apple) devices. (And man, am I bummed out that Apple won't license the W1 under the MFI program. I'd pay a lot extra for that iCloud pairing.)
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.