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Agree that I am baffled why people with no interest in buying the watch spend so much time here.

I think I made it through all of the reviews and I am just as excited to order one in just over 23 hours from now. My husband had been doing a wait and see mine approach and now I think he might want one earlier (he liked the Today show review)
 
I don't understand why a reviewer would look for a designers opinion on this watch. A person interested in buying it would have already made up their mind. I think it's an incredibly sexy looking watch.

The slowness of apps and data loading must be a big concern for anyone who is looking to buy one of these though. Native apps are the way to go and should be a day one feature allowed from developers.

If you are in an important meeting, turn the watch notifications off. If you didn't think it was acceptable to look at your phone, it's even more rude to look at your watch as it looks like you are in a hurry. That should be common sense to anyone. Notifications are really good to have on your wrist, I use them daily. But, they do need to be used in respect of your environment.

But, I do think the reviews got the correct message. This is version 1 looking over it's shoulder for version 2.
 
A couple things I picked up from the reviews:

1) If you continually check your watch notifications during a conversation, that says more about you than the watch. The watch can be set to silent with just the tap to alert you, if the conversation is important you would completely ignore your watch for the duration of the meeting. Lets say you know that the notification is likely a Facebook like or Instagram notification, how obnoxious of a person do you have to be to keep taking yourself out of a conversation due to a gentle tap on your wrist? How self absorbed do you have to be to think you are important enough not to miss a single notification? Also, heres an idea, why not have notifications on during the day when you don't want to keep pulling out your phone and then set the watch to DND when out with the family or a meal with the other half?

2) The suggestion that you have to go through a long list of apps turning notifications off individually. REALLY? Have we come to the point where we are too lazy to spend a one off 2 mins of our life setting up a list of on/off switches. Good god.

Now lets turn this whole thing around:

* After briefly setting up your notifications list for the first time you are good to go. Lets say you are sitting on the sofa and your phone is over on the shelf. It rings and now you can simply answer or dismiss the call from your wrist.

* You are rushing around the supermarket or on your way to work on the bus/tube. Your phone is in your pocket and you get a text. Now you can simply check it on the go without fumbling for your phone.

* You are getting dressed in the morning and your phone is......somewhere....you can quickly check your wrist to see that your boss isn't coming in today, all the while getting on with what you are doing.

* You are out on a run, as you jog along you get a text or a call, is it important? Simply flick your wrist to check if you need to address is right now or not. No digging your phone out of your pocket interfering with your run.

* You are on the go all day but are expecting a really important email about a job offer. You'll know if it comes because your watch will let you know without having to check a phone or computer all day long. Instead you can just get on with things.

* You have had a busy day and you really need a quiet evening. You switch your phone and watch to DND and enjoy a healthy tech free evening without any of the interruptions of modern life.

The positives go on and on yet note of the reviews seemed to mention all the times it could be really really handy.
 
A couple things I picked up from the reviews:

1) If you continually check your watch notifications during a conversation, that says more about you than the watch. The watch can be set to silent with just the tap to alert you, if the conversation is important you would completely ignore your watch for the duration of the meeting. Lets say you know that the notification is likely a Facebook like or Instagram notification, how obnoxious of a person do you have to be to keep taking yourself out of a conversation due to a gentle tap on your wrist? How self absorbed do you have to be to think you are important enough not to miss a single notification? Also, heres an idea, why not have notifications on during the day when you don't want to keep pulling out your phone and then set the watch to DND when out with the family or a meal with the other half?

2) The suggestion that you have to go through a long list of apps turning notifications off individually. REALLY? Have we come to the point where we are too lazy to spend a one off 2 mins of our life setting up a list of on/off switches. Good god.

Now lets turn this whole thing around:

* After briefly setting up your notifications list for the first time you are good to go. Lets say you are sitting on the sofa and your phone is over on the shelf. It rings and now you can simply answer or dismiss the call from your wrist.

* You are rushing around the supermarket or on your way to work on the bus/tube. Your phone is in your pocket and you get a text. Now you can simply check it on the go without fumbling for your phone.

* You are getting dressed in the morning and your phone is......somewhere....you can quickly check your wrist to see that your boss isn't coming in today, all the while getting on with what you are doing.

* You are out on a run, as you jog along you get a text or a call, is it important? Simply flick your wrist to check if you need to address is right now or not. No digging your phone out of your pocket interfering with your run.

* You are on the go all day but are expecting a really important email about a job offer. You'll know if it comes because your watch will let you know without having to check a phone or computer all day long. Instead you can just get on with things.

* You have had a busy day and you really need a quiet evening. You switch your phone and watch to DND and enjoy a healthy tech free evening without any of the interruptions of modern life.

The positives go on and on yet note of the reviews seemed to mention all the times it could be really really handy.

If I can just say what I've picked up from your signature. You've bought this already regardless of what the reviewers said.

Sure, you make the point that notifications are handy. No-one can dispute that but if that's the sole reason why you are buying it, you are throwing your money at something that can be got for far cheaper. There's also the other alternative of trying to actually move away from phone checking compulsiveness instead of pretending to.
 
If I can just say what I've picked up from your signature. You've bought this already regardless of what the reviewers said.

Sure, you make the point that notifications are handy. No-one can dispute that but if that's the sole reason why you are buying it, you are throwing your money at something that can be got for far cheaper. There's also the other alternative of trying to actually move away from phone checking compulsiveness instead of pretending to.

Yeah I already intend to purchase it as the cheaper alternative (Pebble) has bluetooth issues with the iPhone (as seen with a few of my friends) and I really love smartwatches. As an example I has a Sony Ericsson one back in the day and I would have already bought the Moto360 a long time ago if it has been compatible with my phone.

The other reason I like the Apple Watch is for its fitness abilities because I run a lot.

The Apple watch combines it all into one neat package. As the reviewers have said, the best smartwatch on the planet right now but not for everyone. It is however for me as I have been holding out for it for a long time (nearly caved and bought a Pebble last year).

Notifications are incredibly useful to me and for those times where I don't want them, I flick the switch to DND and they are gone for as long as I need them to be.
 
Some reviews were just not helpful in showing all the positives along with the negatives, and how you could actually be less rude with the watch over just having a phone.

Instead of less rude I'm expecting more self serving show-off behavior during the honeymoon period. Let's be honest, this is a big ego "look at me I'm cool" product. Apple's always been associated with the rather obnoxious narcissism of the prior CEO.

Many are quite blatant about it too. Eager to be noticed, they even start threads asking who plan to show off. It's both unique to Apple and as predictable as the bugs the first gen super watch will come with.

It's all part of the authentic Apple experience, free for the audience. :)
 
Some of the reviews were ok. Others were simply awful. Gruber actually comes off looking the best when you'd expect fanboy.

Bajarin's was predictable. Does anyone really take him seriously as an industry analyst? His tweets are silly pro apple. I'm not sure why they gave him one.

The Verge and Bloomberg is simply engadget 2.0. The video productions make you want to puke.

WSJ is just happy to be there.

USAtoday is always a joke.

Recode? Poor Walt handed them off to the interns.

Pogue is a waste of space.

None of them are reliable. There's the fear of Apple for one. They all know how lucky they were to be given an early preview.

But you can see on videos how slow the screen is to light up. You do have to bring up the wrist to get the screen on or tap it. Siri is laggy. When you don't have on board processing on the phone, imagine that it now has to go through BT to the watch.

Fixing Siri means fixing it on the iphone. It shouldn't require wifi or LTE. I think this was my main concern. Siri is the main input other than short taps with preset replies.
 
Some of the reviews were ok. Others were simply awful. Gruber actually comes off looking the best when you'd expect fanboy.

Bajarin's was predictable. Does anyone really take him seriously as an industry analyst? His tweets are silly pro apple. I'm not sure why they gave him one.

The Verge and Bloomberg is simply engadget 2.0. The video productions make you want to puke.

...

Pogue is a waste of space.

None of them are reliable. There's the fear of Apple for one. They all know how lucky they were to be given an early preview.

But you can see on videos how slow the screen is to light up. You do have to bring up the wrist to get the screen on or tap it. Siri is laggy. When you don't have on board processing on the phone, imagine that it now has to go through BT to the watch.

Fixing Siri means fixing it on the iphone. It shouldn't require wifi or LTE. I think this was my main concern. Siri is the main input other than short taps with preset replies.

I mostly agree with you. Most of the reviews had a similar theme: "We're important because Apple loaned us a Watch to review, and this is our way of telling you how important we are". I would have appreciated reviews from people who value my time more than my clicks, and put enough effort into the review to teach me something useful.

Of all the reviews I was able to wade through, Gruber's had the most information I found useful. His point that the Apple Watch isn't as good at being a watch, as a regular watch is, was about what I expected. He said he found himself glancing at the watch a lot more than he realized, and the time was either not there, or only visible after a slightly-too-long delay. I think all of us who have worn regular watches will have a similar experience. The question for me is, would I get used to the not-always-visible time display after a few weeks?

I'm looking forward to his second review, covering the UI.



Some of the other reviewers didn't seem willing to give the watch a fair try.

The Verge guy was simply too lazy to set it up. I guess it's valid to review from the viewpoint of a watch owner who will put NO effort into the device, that's not the kind of review that's useful to me. I learned very little about the watch, but I learned that the reviewer is probably an arrogant jerk. I guess the high and mighty editor-in-chief decided he was the only one entitled to do the flagship review. They'd have gotten a better review by handing it off to a lower staffer who actually cared about the Watch, and who would put a little effort into exploring it.

He did get close to some interesting territory when he mentioned the lag between the watch and the phone. I wish he had pursued the issue in more detail. I wonder if it is a widespread problem, or if some apps are much worse than others. It's easy to imagine an app trying to send way too much data to the watch and creating needless delay. I guess questions like these are too deep for the Verge. Hopefully a site like Anandtech will eventually report more details.

The Verge isn't a site I've visited much, and this review makes me much less likely to visit in the future. It didn't feel like they were trying to provide useful information to me; it felt like a bunch of spoiled people showing off. A tacky response to Apple's generosity in providing early access to the Watch.

The Wall Street Journal "review" was embarrassing. Cringe-worthy. I'm at a loss for words, so I'm plagiarizing from other posters.

I thought the Pogue review was ok. I learned a few things I didn't know before, which I guess counts for something. The snarky video format annoyed me, but I guess that sort of thing is popular nowadays. (Yes, I'm old enough to say "nowadays". Someday you will be, too.)

Doesn't Siri still require a network connection to Apple's servers? If you have a poor connection to the rest of the world, Siri will be slow. Reviews of Siri performance without details of the environment aren't very helpful. Should we blame the watch? the cellular provider? the WiFi network? Apple's Siri servers? or any of a dozen other factors?
 
Notification fail?

Unless I misunderstood the Verge review; all notifications share the same alerts.

How dumb is this?

I have different sounds and different vibration patterns for most of my frequent notifications. This way I can tell by sound (and sometimes feel) if a notification is something time sensitive (a txt message, calendar reminder, etc) or something less important like an email or Facebook update. So my phone may alert me 5 times during a face to face chat with somebody and I'll know I don't need to check a single one. Or I'll know that 4th notification I got was a txt message and I should probably check that one sooner rather than later.

Makes all the difference to me in managing my alerts on the fly.

Fortunately this is something they can fix in software, because it's a real problem I think. Until I can get some level of granularity in what and how I'm notified by, the Watch is a non-starter for me.
 
Pre Apple Watch: Looks down at watch during conversation. Other person is offended.

Post Apple Watch: Looks down at watch during conversation. Normal.
 
It's amazing that ALL these professional reviewers ALL missed the point, but you! You, Mr. Betabeta have got it all figured out. What a cruel and unjust world we live in that the only person who knows the truth has to share it on a macrumors forum, instead of as lead tech reviewer for who knows where!

Personally, if I were you, I'd just waltz in to your pick of any of these places and take the job so you can finally open everyone's eyes.

Godspeed, my friend!

I liked how some reviews seemed annoyed by the notifications, so I guess having your phone buzz or ring is much better?

And you couldn't just wait until your done talking to look at your watch!? But now it's like a pain, and you just can't resist to check while right in the middle of talking? So first world complaining.

Just wait to look at your wrist!!!

Once you dial in a perfect amount of important notifications I know whithout out even having one it will be better, and if I'm talking to someone, I'll wait to check like I always have with my phone or if I'm not talking just glance to be sure it's not an emergency.

Plus!! I actually hate it more when someone's phone rings and rings in their purse or pocket, I have to say are you going to answer that? With the watch they can quickly glance and click I'll call you back.

The reviews were ok, I want to know about the lag and of course there are downfalls with all tech, but I didn't here much about how this could actually make things better in many ways.

Some reviews were just not helpful in showing all the positives along with the negatives, and how you could actually be less rude with the watch over just having a phone.
 
A couple things I picked up from the reviews:

1) If you continually check your watch notifications during a conversation, that says more about you than the watch. The watch can be set to silent with just the tap to alert you, if the conversation is important you would completely ignore your watch for the duration of the meeting. Lets say you know that the notification is likely a Facebook like or Instagram notification, how obnoxious of a person do you have to be to keep taking yourself out of a conversation due to a gentle tap on your wrist? How self absorbed do you have to be to think you are important enough not to miss a single notification? Also, heres an idea, why not have notifications on during the day when you don't want to keep pulling out your phone and then set the watch to DND when out with the family or a meal with the other half?

2) The suggestion that you have to go through a long list of apps turning notifications off individually. REALLY? Have we come to the point where we are too lazy to spend a one off 2 mins of our life setting up a list of on/off switches. Good god.

Now lets turn this whole thing around:

* After briefly setting up your notifications list for the first time you are good to go. Lets say you are sitting on the sofa and your phone is over on the shelf. It rings and now you can simply answer or dismiss the call from your wrist.

* You are rushing around the supermarket or on your way to work on the bus/tube. Your phone is in your pocket and you get a text. Now you can simply check it on the go without fumbling for your phone.

* You are getting dressed in the morning and your phone is......somewhere....you can quickly check your wrist to see that your boss isn't coming in today, all the while getting on with what you are doing.

* You are out on a run, as you jog along you get a text or a call, is it important? Simply flick your wrist to check if you need to address is right now or not. No digging your phone out of your pocket interfering with your run.

* You are on the go all day but are expecting a really important email about a job offer. You'll know if it comes because your watch will let you know without having to check a phone or computer all day long. Instead you can just get on with things.

* You have had a busy day and you really need a quiet evening. You switch your phone and watch to DND and enjoy a healthy tech free evening without any of the interruptions of modern life.

The positives go on and on yet note of the reviews seemed to mention all the times it could be really really handy.

The big failing on notifications is not being able to set different sounds/taps for different apps. I can't believe Apple didn't consider this.

"ding" oh that's just an email I can ignore that. "bong" oh that's just a Facebook post, I can ignore that too. "boing" oh man that's a txt message, may be important, excuse me while I check my watch.

Makes all the difference in the world, and is exactly how many of us setup our phones, at least among my circle.

Unique notifications are a must for me to be both productive, and not an inattentive jerk to my real life associates.

Hopefully it'll be a software fix coming down the road.
 
The big failing on notifications is not being able to set different sounds/taps for different apps. I can't believe Apple didn't consider this.

"ding" oh that's just an email I can ignore that. "bong" oh that's just a Facebook post, I can ignore that too. "boing" oh man that's a txt message, may be important, excuse me while I check my watch.

Makes all the difference in the world, and is exactly how many of us setup our phones, at least among my circle.

Unique notifications are a must for me to be both productive, and not an inattentive jerk to my real life associates.

Hopefully it'll be a software fix coming down the road.

Yeah I agree, hopefully a software fix will add this feature. Im pretty sure it will actually.
 
If I can just say what I've picked up from your signature. You've bought this already regardless of what the reviewers said.

Sure, you make the point that notifications are handy. No-one can dispute that but if that's the sole reason why you are buying it, you are throwing your money at something that can be got for far cheaper. There's also the other alternative of trying to actually move away from phone checking compulsiveness instead of pretending to.

Again. Why are you here except to crap on people? They said why they like it. Some of us don't WANT something that is or looks cheap. You make it sound like every single review was horrible and told people the watch was crap and that no one should buy one for any reason. That is simply not true.

Most of us saw the reviews and demos and thought "Yes, I would use it like that and it would be handy and / or fun. I would expect most people who can afford it and are over 40 (and do not live in their mothers basement) will likely want the SS unless they really like the style of the sport.

You keep PUSHING the idea that people MUST get something that is cheaper so I can only assume you must work for (or own stock in) a company that sells something cheaper. BTW. I keep walking past the gigantic Android watch display at my COSTCO and gag at the style (and packaging).

I DID get a cheaper Pebble. Like it but cannot wait to upgrade to something nice that does a LOT more.
 
My main issue with the verge review was that he complained that his wrist kept getting tapped everytime he got an email.

Why couldn't he customize the taps to certain contacts? Problem solved.

I don't plan to let the watch tap me everytime I get a junk email or tweet.
 
The big failing on notifications is not being able to set different sounds/taps for different apps. I can't believe Apple didn't consider this.

"ding" oh that's just an email I can ignore that. "bong" oh that's just a Facebook post, I can ignore that too. "boing" oh man that's a txt message, may be important, excuse me while I check my watch.

Makes all the difference in the world, and is exactly how many of us setup our phones, at least among my circle.

Unique notifications are a must for me to be both productive, and not an inattentive jerk to my real life associates.

Hopefully it'll be a software fix coming down the road.

That is the case i believe. Im not completely sure about the sounds, but one of the reviewers ( i believe the bloomberg reviewer) said that there are different sequences of taps for each app. I'm sure you'd be able to control them for each app the same way you can do vibrations on your phone.

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Unless I misunderstood the Verge review; all notifications share the same alerts.

How dumb is this?

I have different sounds and different vibration patterns for most of my frequent notifications. This way I can tell by sound (and sometimes feel) if a notification is something time sensitive (a txt message, calendar reminder, etc) or something less important like an email or Facebook update. So my phone may alert me 5 times during a face to face chat with somebody and I'll know I don't need to check a single one. Or I'll know that 4th notification I got was a txt message and I should probably check that one sooner rather than later.

Makes all the difference to me in managing my alerts on the fly.

Fortunately this is something they can fix in software, because it's a real problem I think. Until I can get some level of granularity in what and how I'm notified by, the Watch is a non-starter for me.

He didn't mention that in his review. He actually didn't mention a lot of things in his review.
 
Again. Why are you here except to crap on people? They said why they like it. Some of us don't WANT something that is or looks cheap. You make it sound like every single review was horrible and told people the watch was crap and that no one should buy one for any reason. That is simply not true.

Most of us saw the reviews and demos and thought "Yes, I would use it like that and it would be handy and / or fun. I would expect most people who can afford it and are over 40 (and do not live in their mothers basement) will likely want the SS unless they really like the style of the sport.

You keep PUSHING the idea that people MUST get something that is cheaper so I can only assume you must work for (or own stock in) a company that sells something cheaper. BTW. I keep walking past the gigantic Android watch display at my COSTCO and gag at the style (and packaging).

I DID get a cheaper Pebble. Like it but cannot wait to upgrade to something nice that does a LOT more.

If you can't handle other peoples views,maybe you shouldn't be on here. This is a discussion forum, not a support group.

Also, you completely misread my post but that's expected as you are obviously very defensive about your decision to purchase an apple watch.
 
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