Ridiculously slow DVD ripping..

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  1. magn2o macrumors member

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    So I've been tasked with ripping a few dozen DVDs, mostly family movies and a couple wedding DVDs, and I can't help but notice that each rip takes anywhere between 30m to 1hr to complete.

    Am I doing something wrong? As a test, I ripped the same DVD in my PC and it took 6-7 minutes. I'm not doing any compression or encoding, these are straight VIDEO_TS/AUDIO_TS folder rips.

    Granted, the source discs aren't the best in the world (mostly Memorex and Sony DVD-R) but should there be such drastic speed differences between the two machines? I'm doing the bulk of my ripping under XP in VMWare using DVD Shrink. I've tried using MacTheRipper natively under OSX with the same results.

    I must be missing something..
     
  2. NickEm009 macrumors newbie

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    I use MacTheRipper as well, so i can watch movies on the plane instead of carring 10 DVDs with me, and it can be fairly slow. I've done dvd copies for family members and some of the short videos, roughly 45 minutes long, took only 10 minutes. Larger movies take, for me, roughly 30 minutes. Have you tried HandBrake? It rips just the movie and non of the extra features.:apple:
     
  3. themoonisdown09 macrumors 601

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    If I'm not mistaken, you can't rip a DVD using HandBrake to the VIDEO_TS/AUDIO_TS format.
     
  4. Tex-Twil macrumors 68020

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    That's funny; yesterday I was (and still am) facing the same problem.

    I was trying convert a DVD using DVD shrink in both vmware and boot camp and it is painfully slow. On my older VAIO it was quite fast (around let's say 20 min) but on my new MBP it takes like 1h30-2h.

    I think this is not related to DVD Shrink cos when I tried to simply make an image of the dvd using the Disk Utility, it was slow as well.

    ??!
     
  5. magn2o thread starter macrumors member

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    Correct. HandBrake will encode a DVD, not perform a 1:1 extraction.


    I do believe I've found what the problem is, apparently Apple has enabled a "RipLock" function on all OEM SuperDrives. This seems to throttle DVD speeds during ripping to dramatically increase ripping times, I guess, as a deterrent.

    Lovely. Now to see if there's a firmware that will REMOVE it -- nevermind the fact it's ridiculous that I even need to do so.
     
  6. macrem macrumors 65816

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    I was also wondering why it takes so long... also recently I ripped a DVD and in the resultant MP4 file the chapters were out of order... :mad: I have not tried again yet but was wondering if this was some kind of new technique to prevent ripping. I only rip because I don't like dealing with disks and dvd zones since I have DVDs from the US and Europe.
     
  7. magn2o thread starter macrumors member

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    Well, I did find a firmware patcher for the LG GSA-S10N drive in my MBP -- but it only strips RPC2 (region) information; it doesn't remove "RipLock". *sigh* Looks like I'm stuck.

    This really sucks..
     
  8. macrem macrumors 65816

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    HandBrake is calculating +1h15m to rip Wall-e (1-pass encoding; settings optimized for iPhone / iPod Touch) on a 2.8GHz MBP. Isn't there some way to speed things up???
     
  9. KingYaba macrumors 68040

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    External drive or find some firmware that removes the riplock (will void any warranty).
     
  10. Bobioden macrumors 68000

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    I use MacTheRipper to make a VIDEO_TS image of a DVD, then use Toast 9 to burn the disk. Whole process takes 45 minutes, 20-25 minutes for the MTR rip, and 20 minutes for the Toast burn. Each additional burn is just the 20 minutes.
     
  11. macrem macrumors 65816

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    I'll try one of those tips, thanks. Has anyone else had issues ripping DVDs with chapters in order? Its happening to me for the first time with Wall-e, latest version of HandBrake and new MBP. After the rip is done, the chapters are out of order in the mp4 file. Does anyone know if this could be part of the anti-rip settings or what else?
     
  12. sickmacdoc macrumors 68020

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    Edit: nevermind- I thought you were using Mac The Ripper.
     
  13. macrem macrumors 65816

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    I used to use MTR and just started using it again to see if I can shorten ripping time* as compared to doing it all with HandBrake. The good thing is MTR detects and can remove deliberately bad sectors. I am hoping that this will allow me to extract a clean disc, then encode to MP4 with the extracted image using HandBrake, without getting chapters out of order. It looks like actually some chapters might be randomly repeated as the overall movie time was longer in the MP4 file than the DVD.

    *However, MTR is taking +10 hours to extract! Well, part of that time is because it prompts you about deliberately bad sectors as it finds them, & it found one while I was asleep so the process stopped until I said "ok". But nonetheless it is taking several hours to extract a DVD. Am I doing something wrong?
     
  14. spacepower7 macrumors 68000

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    Yeah, you are missing alot. If you really are just trying to copy family movies and wedding dvds that are stored on DVD+-R etc.......

    All you have to do is drag the VIDEO_TS folder to the hard drive, no ripping software needed.



    macrem - There is a whole thread on ripping wall-e in the AppleTV forum area .... 99 Titles..in the subject line
     
  15. macrem macrumors 65816

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    So anyhew now when I try to open my MTR 1:1 DVD extraction with HandBrake to convert to MP4, the extracted DVD causes HandBrake to crash.
     
  16. macrem macrumors 65816

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    Ahh, I did not know that. Thank you! :)
     
  17. magn2o thread starter macrumors member

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    I wish it was that easy, I tried simply copying the VIDEO_TS folders off, however, in some (not all) cases the resulting VOB files will not play. Specifically the wedding videos, which I'm assuming, is because they were done by professional videographers.
     
  18. HLdan macrumors 603

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    That shouldn't happen. Only factory pressed DVD's generally won't allow the drag n drop of all Video TS files due to the copy protection built in. There should be no reason why you can't do it. Your professional videographer should have no stake in copy protecting personal wedding videos.....
     
  19. magn2o thread starter macrumors member

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    Then I don't know what to say, I tried to copy the files (in both OSX and WinXP) and they wouldn't play. I copied them using MTR in OSX and DVDShrink in WinXP and they worked fine.

    Either way, the point is now moot because I've got them all copied. I still wish there was a way to remove the riplock though, for future ripping. Oh well.
     
  20. sickmacdoc macrumors 68020

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    Actually what I had originally noted (before I noticed you were not using MTR) is that there is a thread under "Ripping Issues" on Wall-e at the Mac The Ripper forum with over 260 posts and growing. If you rip the whole thing it will result in a non-usable 58Gb (!!!!) rip- but the solution to that is in the threads there. It worked fine for backing up my copy of Wall-e anyway.

    EDIT: After reading another of your posts, yes there is something you can do about the 10 hour+ rip- just check out the thread I mentioned above. If you are not familiar, you can access the MTR forums by registering at www.ripdifferent.com
     
  21. tsa1 macrumors regular

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    Wow so Disney have made wall-e that hard to rip?

    Honestly I have never "backed up" up any of my copyrighted DVD's. But I can say when I do not all of them will be mine haha.
     
  22. MowingDevil macrumors 68000

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    I don't think Mac the Ripper is even available anymore. I've been trying their link for a couple weeks now and its a dead end. Maybe they got shut down? ...anyone else have an alternative link?

    Whats the next best program?
     
  23. sickmacdoc macrumors 68020

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    Yes- you are talking about the old V. 2.6.6 freeware version (which has been abandoned for about 2-3 years now) I would imagine as apparently some of the links did go down for that a while back, but the current V 3.0 r14m is available and supported through the Mac the Ripper forums at www.ripdifferent.com
     
  24. sickmacdoc macrumors 68020

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    To stay within the Forum rules, be sure to understand that we are only talking about making a single archival backup copy of DVDs that the user owns.
     
  25. MowingDevil macrumors 68000

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    Naturally, what ever else would one even think of using Mac the Ripper for? :cool:
     

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