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Actually what I had originally noted (before I noticed you were not using MTR) is that there is a thread under "Ripping Issues" on Wall-e at the Mac The Ripper forum with over 260 posts and growing. If you rip the whole thing it will result in a non-usable 58Gb (!!!!) rip- but the solution to that is in the threads there. It worked fine for backing up my copy of Wall-e anyway.

EDIT: After reading another of your posts, yes there is something you can do about the 10 hour+ rip- just check out the thread I mentioned above. If you are not familiar, you can access the MTR forums by registering at www.ripdifferent.com
Thanks for your tips. It turns out that I could use HandBrake for the entire rip and conversion to MP4 by selecting the proper title that has all chapters in order 1st.
 
I don't think Mac the Ripper is even available anymore. I've been trying their link for a couple weeks now and its a dead end. Maybe they got shut down? ...anyone else have an alternative link?

Whats the next best program?
I had same prob, but Macupdate's link works (in addition to smd's suggestion).

HandBrake is a bit of a different animal, but like I posted above I was able to go straight from DVD to MP4 using only this program. Sometimes I see posts that say start with MTR, then apply detox, remove the first/last X frames with QT Pro, then open in HandBrake, toss a pinch of salt over your shoulder...argh!!
 
Wow so Disney have made wall-e that hard to rip?

Honestly I have never "backed up" up any of my copyrighted DVD's. But I can say when I do not all of them will be mine haha.
Tee-hee. It took a lot of digging but finally it turns out if you have the latest version of HandBrake and the latest version of VLC installed, you can first right click on the video window in DVD Player to find out which Title is in use, then select that same Title # in HandBrake and the rest works as it normally would in HB.
 
HandBrake is calculating +1h15m to rip Wall-e (1-pass encoding; settings optimized for iPhone / iPod Touch) on a 2.8GHz MBP. Isn't there some way to speed things up???

That is pretty fast.

HandBrake is encoding the video as well as ripping it, which is why it takes much longer.
 
That is pretty fast.

HandBrake is encoding the video as well as ripping it, which is why it takes much longer.
Yes, I missed this distinction when originally replying to the OP's concerns about being able to rip (only ripping) in 15 mins on a pc, but not on a MBP.

I guess if you're ripping & encoding concurrently, it does not really matter if riplock is on because the bottleneck is encoding?
 
Hi,
I gave up trying to run DVD Shrink in Bootcamp cos it was painfully slow. I've just tried Mac the ripper but ... it is also very slow !! It takes around 40-50 mins to backup a DVD ...

I have a unibody MBP and it is slow as well on my gf's unibody MB
 

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it was taking me 45 minutes...for a dvd.

I am now doing it in bootcamp. Vista 64.

Same DVD takes me 11 minutes.

Set up. LG external usb DVD combo. Iomega 500gb USB external harddrive.

Software.. DVDfab. You can even use it for the Casino Royale. (But do not do it)

I also tried ripping two DVD's at the same time to the external Harddrive.

Superdrive takes 45 minutes.
External reader takes 15 minutes. (Similar GB dvds)

So in 45 minutes you can rip 4 DVDs...

So the conclusion is drop the superdrive cause it is way to slow. Any modification to its firmware will just bring you headaches. Moreover using an external DVD decreases the mechanical stress on the machine.
 
So the superdrive is just slow and there is nothing to do about it ?? I really don't want to buy an external DVD cos I rip like 1 DVD in 2 months.

I'm a bit surprised that a 2300€ notebook has a slower DVD that the Vaio I used to have :(:(

Tex
 
from what i understand it isnt the drive itself that is slow but a slowing down in the software running it in order to discourage pirating. if that is right it is pretty dumb. us pirates are quite patient
 
Not entirely dumb

from what i understand it isnt the drive itself that is slow but a slowing down in the software running it in order to discourage pirating. if that is right it is pretty dumb. us pirates are quite patient

This intentional slowing down is presumably in place to discourage "mass-production" pirating. Certainly it does little to stop individual or infrequent copying, but that is probably not the primary focus of industry anyway. (The question of legality aside, of course.)
 
from what i understand it isnt the drive itself that is slow but a slowing down in the software running it in order to discourage pirating. if that is right it is pretty dumb. us pirates are quite patient
What do you mean by the "software running it" ? Drivers or the ripping software i.e. Mac the ripper or DVD Shrink ?

Tex
 
Superdrive Spec from apple website:
8x slot-loading SuperDrive (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)

Maximum write: 8x DVD-R, DVD+R; 4x DVD-R DL (double layer), DVD+R DL (double layer), DVD-RW, DVD+RW; 24x CD-R; 10x CD-RW

Maximum read: 8x DVD-R, DVD+R, DVD-ROM; 6x DVD-ROM (double layer DVD-9), DVD-R DL (double layer), DVD+R DL (double layer), DVD-RW, and DVD+RW; 24x CD

Lacie External DVD:
Write+RW: 22x8x16x
Rewrite-RW: 22x6x16x
Read ±R DL : +R 16x, -R 12x


Most of the laptops carry an x8 DVD drive so the Superdrive compared to other internal DVD units is good. (well the only thing missing is a blue ray reader...)

The 2300 you are paying is for the whole combo, not the superdrive alone. The price is worth it. You get a state of the art machine with a very reliable operating system.

No blue screen of death,...... but sometimes weird things happen. But if you are an apple fan, you just say that the application closed.....in windows you would say..: MY system crasheddddd helpppppppppp

I guess apple makes you cooler, or, since you dropped 2300 on the machine, it puts you on a state of denial :)

Enjoy your mac.
 
from what i understand it isnt the drive itself that is slow but a slowing down in the software running it in order to discourage pirating.

That's funny, I don't remember seeing any mention of this added feature in any of the steve notes... Was it the one where he proudly announed the new feature of no firewire on macbooks?:confused:

I remember ranting and raving when Vista first came out after it was discovered that the OS kept checked your DVD burner and shut itself down if it discovered the burner was tampered with to discourage piracy. My take was that Redmond went out of its way to protect content consumers, but didn't care about its actual consumers. This has stripped away a little bit of my warm fuzziness about Apple.

I'm not a pirate, and I've pretty much got my home video encoded to my hard drive. My question is, considering the amount of influence the MPAA and RIAA have, is how could you tell which external DVD drives have or don't have riplock?
 
Anyway, I cannot believe that a manufacture of a DVD reader would slow it down to discourage piracy !
 
the same reason why the BMWs are speed limited to 250km/h. : For you own safety :)

If your superdrive would really act like a "superdrive" you could stat ripping dvd like there was no tomorrow, pirating all you DVD collection. You would be copying 6 DVD per hour 24 hour a day. You would nee to buy 4 1TB external drives every week to be able to burn the the 1000 movies at full resolution for that week (4GB per day).

After two weeks the police would find out and would raid your house and find 2000 pirated movies....

You will go to jail and have a hefty fine :)

Enough with the joking, If you say that you want to rip 2 movies per month, and you say you have a girlfriend: Well use those 80+ minutes of ripping to spend some quality time with your mac and away from her...
 
the same reason why the BMWs are speed limited to 250km/h. : For you own safety :)

If your superdrive would really act like a "superdrive" you could stat ripping dvd like there was no tomorrow, pirating all you DVD collection. You would be copying 6 DVD per hour 24 hour a day. You would nee to buy 4 1TB external drives every week to be able to burn the the 1000 movies at full resolution for that week (4GB per day).

After two weeks the police would find out and would raid your house and find 2000 pirated movies....

You will go to jail and have a hefty fine :)

Enough with the joking, If you say that you want to rip 2 movies per month, and you say you have a girlfriend: Well use those 80+ minutes of ripping to spend some quality time with your mac and away from her...

Nice story. I thought that one is innocent until the opposite is proven. It looks like when one has a computer he is a pirate who copies a lot of movies ?! I'm sorry but your joke is a bit insulting. I have no intention to pirate 1000 movies / week as you say. I wanted to backup my own DVD so that I can watch it in the train. Since the ripping was so slow I could only copy the 1st DVD out of 6, otherwise I would have missed my train. Hence this topic.

Second thing, I'm not asking how I should spend the 80 mins of ripping.

I posted in this topic cos I thought that maybe I could find a solution to that problem. It looks though that on this point, Apple just has a less performant hardware or software compared to other notebooks.

T.
 
Servus,

"you could start ripping" it does not mean you will. Do not take it personally.

I would disagree with what you say about the mac computer having a lower performance than other notebooks. If I remember correctly, not only a macbook pro is great for Mac OS, but it was also the best notebook to run Windows Vista.

I would also disagree with people saying that when you buy an apple computer you pay a premium. I was just checking sony's and dell's website, and to get a similar equipped computer, you need to pay the same if not more. (ok they offer blu ray drives...)

Finally, If you buy a macbook pro and judge its performance just by looking at the dvd ripping feature, then I think you miss the whole point of owning a macbook pro.

I know every one want to prove a point ( like me too) but what ever we say, the fact remains the same.

If you search the forums on online, you will see that you could have a firmware update etc to speed up things.

I personally do not recommend it. I t just my opinion. I gave you my to options and timing performance for you to compare.

Danke
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tchuss
 
I would disagree with what you say about the mac computer having a lower performance than other notebooks. If I remember correctly, not only a macbook pro is great for Mac OS, but it was also the best notebook to run Windows Vista.
I was talking just about the DVD ripping performances. I do love my MBP and I'm very happy with it ;) I'm just a bit disappointed by this slow dvd rip.


Tex
 
Can your DVD player get worn out/dirty?

Mine is now extremely slow in recognizing disks. I'm not sure if it's dirty, or just about to fail...
 
It's partly because Matshita drives are crap for reading DVDs, regardless of what firmware is on it, and also that MTR is crapware.

Use AnyDVD in boot camp or parallels with an external drive.
 
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