I agree. If this is as good for consumers as some people think then we should see a surge in new customers for Apple and their revenue should increase substantially.
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Why buy Office 365 from the Apple Store
Apple and Microsoft have come to terms and now you can buy an Office 365 'subscription' plan from the Apple App Store. Why do such a silly thing? We've
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Steve Jobs swore he would never allow porn apps on the iPhone. Now that the EU is deciding what’s what, EU citizens will be able so side load porn apps on their iPhones… 🚀💨 😉
We already have enough of the Apple Nanny. That would be a bit far, not that I am sure just how they would do that Without some major OS updates.
To be fair, Jobs didn't want any apps on iPhone... HTML5 was all we needed. The real potential the original AppStore unlocked though was cut-throat competition for fart apps. It gave the world our first generation of fart-app tycoons.
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Then they should lower their commission to a much more reasonable rate. I've said it multiple times, the industry rate for processing online payments is 2-4%. Compared to apple's 15-30%. The only reason they have to pay that much is because they have no other choice. As said by other poster, an 80% markup is just insane.
I love my Apple products but sometimes it's odd reading comments from Apple apologists. They love freedom and choice but when Apple gives them none they're fine. They hate tracking and data mining but when Apple does it they're fine. I just can't understand it...
It's going to be a mess. Thinking about simple things like app discovery. You simply won't search that current app store. You'll need to open a browser, search for the app. This seems simple enough. But, how many times have you slightly missed typed something and ended on wrong download page or site. That does not have happen today. Love that.
This is going to be great attack vector.
This is going to be great attack vector.
Does the Play Store allows for these companies to avoid paying Google 30% by providing their own payment service?
You're comparing Apples and oranges. Apple's fee isn't just for payment processing, as they made clear in the Dutch case. Think of it more as a platform fee. And when you look at platform fees, Apple is quite reasonable with almost all developers paying 15% or less.
I don't take them at their word. But, respectfully, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
I'm pretty sure Apple will monetise independent apps/app stores somehow, but charging the competition basically the same commission as they would have had to pay if they had used your product sounds like an anti-competition field day for motivated regulators.
You realize Apple do only charge 3% for payment processing. The rest of the 15-30% is for everything else they provide.
Thats why dating apps only got a 3% discount.
its been said multiple times its not just online payments you need to catch up
Payment processing companies don’t have to run an online App Store either.
It’s easier to charge less, when you are also providing way less for the money.
Top rated comment here has determined it's purely down to offering the consumer the BEST, but that's only the sales pitch not the objective. They wrap that up and sell it to people as the reason it all 'just works', and that's often the case. But it only works in the very specific way that Apple think you deserve to be afforded/trusted with. That's always been the case, the walls only come down in areas (default browser, basic UI customisation on iOS hardware costing £1500+ etc...) when Apple allow it and it's always in a more narrow way than what is possible to offer.
They still serve you Google as default search in Safari while preaching about the crazy number of privacy features they have engineered, which is absurd!!! They know exactly which tiny faction of iOS users will ever change that default but are selling Private relay etc....as a keynote feature, just makes me laugh. There is no more refined gaslighting/PR operation in tech than Apple, something Steve Job zeroed in as fundamental to the rebirth and I think is how his personal reality distortion field lives on today as a legacy.
And now they have basically added/are adding all this level of control to their main computers that cost £2k - 50k. The fact the M1/M2 is so fast and efficient is the trojan horse to get the masses to not even question what they are giving up in terms of freedom.
I'm running my 2012 rMBP and the hardware has been incredibly reliable, aside from heat/battery from the haswell CPU it is as perfect as day one. Apple have deemed it not capable of running anything post Big Sur however.
The lock in and control has actually pushed me toward linux which I dual boot and macOS being UNIX-based has only exposed exactly how much of the "computer" is abstracted and locked away from the user.
When it dies I wont be buying a new macbook regardless of M series performance. The value proposition has changed, I need to pay approx 70% more for an equivalent tier MBP and I wont be able to dual/triple boot linux or native Windows on a £4k machine and no amount of hardware build quality is going to make up for that loss of freedom.
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The questions I have are what types of software will this decision make commercially viable that are currently not due to the 30% tax eating all the margin. If this means small teams with payroll can make a profit then that's a win.
Also what will Apple's real world response be in terms of changing store algorithms around discoverability etc.... It's all so invisible, I have typed in searches recently and been presented with a single app in the results! It blew me away and there is no way to see into the algorithm that decided that was the best thing for me, they must know how confusing it appears as they add a link to an explainer article "How search results work" It felt like shadowbanning you see elsewhere on the web, or having your hand held and infantalised. Imagine if a search engine returned a single page to a couple of common words, it comes across as arrogance and frankly insulting.
All i want is emulators, and a manga app that apple stops removing from appstore . Literally atm paperback works but it will be removed because of apple. Altstore also lets me use custom youtube app which adds dislike button , downloading , background play, auto skip sponsors. while emulation on my iphone 13 pro max i use Delta emulator but on my Ipad Pro m1 i play dolphin emulator
How many years? MacOS paired with M1/M2 is a now a whole new level of control vs Intel era. One move just wiped the slate and now only software actively being developed TODAY can run on macOS natively. Shiny chip with good stats makes people see past paying 50% more for a lot less freedom than Mac's from 10 years ago though.
I’m not defending Apple here, I was replying to someone saying they would only use apps on the App Store even if third party app stores were allowed.
I do believe that Apple is abusing developers with the commission rate, my point is that many popular apps could move to third party App Stores if they were allowed. Something around 2-4% is much more reasonable both for developers and consumers, but developers would still have to comply to a lot more regulations and constraints than on third party app stores (type of content allowed, app verification, privacy labels, etc.). They don’t have a strong incentive being on the App Store even with a lower commission, except maybe for extra visibility and convenience. It’s exactly why the Mac App Store never became that compelling
This freedom is just not Apple's forte, they excel in deciding what must be done to keep you 'safe' if it was the government directly having this granular control over what we are exposed to perhaps people would ask more questions but it's a company so they question less. Weird how that distinction makes it seems less sinister when at the base level govt and many multinational corporations both specialise in changing the behaviour and collecting vauable data on vast numbers of people.
I've had an iPhone since the 3GS but recently I have started trying to actively resist attempts to control my behaviour and funnel me into workflows and apps someone else decided is the default option. I'm resigned to the fact I will have to give up some UI/UX now to get something more aligned with this mentality when I ditch iPhone. In 2022 this is frankly rubbish that for all our technological breakthroughs the mainstream are basically spoonfed hardware and software from these centralised duopolies in both desktop/mobile spaces (MS/Apple/Google). Very much tech to control vs tech to liberate it seems.
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I mean I'm only playing games that I own the real cartridges for, chasing childhood memories. I see your point though. Nintendo would argue that letting me play those games on my phone means I'm less likely to buy them on my Switch, if only Nintendo actually offered all those same games on Switch.
But really, shouldn't I be allowed to play my illegal emulators on my own devices? I've paid a lot of money for Apple devices over my life, tens of thousands of dollars easily.
same all games i own via emulator was my games that I owned and ripped; literally supreme court said it was legal