Innovation such as:
- scamware
- malware
- copy cat apps
- etc
Don’t think apple needs that type of innovation.
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- scamware
- malware
- copy cat apps
- etc
Don’t think apple needs that type of innovation.
Android users will be effected by this if Apple is forced to allow third party app stores and sideloading. Once both major platforms permit it, large developers like Meta, Microsoft, Spotify, Epic, etc will be incentivized to remove their apps from the default app stores and force users to download their apps and services directly. In order to download and update Instagram and their productivity apps for work, your Android friends will become very familiar with the new app distribution regime soon enough.
#becarefulwhatyouwishfor
Copy cat apps already exist in the App Store.
Malware and Scamware are just “OMG it’s bad!!” rhetoric at the moment. Let’s see what Apple comes up with first.
Sure, but just pointing out the problems now, imo, will magnify if no certification is required for app stores.
It’s a distinct possibility, given how many posters note that the App Store today “is filled” with same.
Do you know that Steve Jobs was against the idea of the App Store when the first iPhone lunched ? For him it was going to cause scamware, malware ... He wanted only apps from Apple on the iPhone (Google it).
Fast forward to today, and you will understand that you are making the exact same argument.
There is no reason to have more malware on iOs if you give users the freedom to download what they want. I download whatever software I want on my mac and I never had a problem and I don't think mac Os is less secure because of that.
Mac is a niche platform compare to iOS. Things have changed (significantly) since that SJ meme.
Not at all. Steve Jobs wasn't against an App Store. Jobs was orignally against native third-party apps because Apple didn't have the resources to police them. The App Store was the solution to the problem.
1. There is whole lot more personal mobile devices in use in the world than the 6% that use Mac computers.
2. More sensitive information is held on the average persons phone than computer
3. MacOS IS far less secure than iOS - ask Craig Federighi
Congratulations, you are reasonably tech savvy and avoided getting malware. Your mom, grandpa, or kids probably are not. Or based on the comment you've simply been lucky.
I haven't had a malware infection even on my windows machines in over 15 years, that doesn't mean Windows is not riddled with security holes, I'm just smarter now.
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I am sorry but I don't understand your reasoning. Should we limit the freedom of millions/billions of IOS users to use the smartphones they paid for so some people don't get a malware ?
Restricting freedoms was never the best way to protect people. If you don't agree why stop at this ? Should we limit all the cars speed at 30 mph so people get less accidents ? Should we ban the sales of Alcohol completely to save more lives ? Where should we stop ?
Apple abused their monopoly position for decades and now more countries are stepping in to stop it. No one is forcing you & your grandpa to download apps outside the app store. But the people who wants to and willing to take that risk, should and will have that option in the future.
But why would the people who wanted to do that buy an iPhone in the first place? This is what I am yet to understand, Apple didn’t take something away from people, the iPhone has always worked this way, even when Apple had approx 1% of the smartphone market.
When Apple had a 1% of market, this situation was not a problem for anyone. Apple marketshare increased over the years, and today as one of the 2 companies holding a duopoly over the phone software business, they have to adapt.
Let's suppose Apple decides tomorrow that an App should not be on the Apps store for I don't know which reason. What should the millions of people using an iPhone and this app do ? Move to Android, and what should they do with the phones they paid more than 1000 euros for ?
I don't have any need to download anything outside the app store, but :
1 - People who wants to should be able to do so.
2 - Apple getting a 30% cut for every App subscription is ridiculous and should stop. Developers do all the work when developing iOs apps and should rightfully get all the money if they want to provide their apps directly to the customer. I don't see who Apple deserves a 30% cut for a Netflix subscription on an iPhone.
Apple aren’t responsible for the duopoly situation. Regulators should fix that situation.
Of course! As evidenced by the trillions of dollars that the malware industry has cost the economy. Trying to stop people from installing malware is something that every modern OS does.
Forcing other people to do what you want isn't freedom.
They didn't "abuse" anything. They simply have a business plan that you don't like. As evidence by your next post, where you admit that nobody had a problem with the same rules when they were smaller.
Which gets us to the main problem. The duopoly over app distribution isn't because of something that Apple did wrong. It's a result of Google illegally colluding with it horizontal competitors to push their services over multiple vertical markets including app distribution. If you have a problem with the duopoly, than that's where regulation and enforcement needs to focus.
Unfortunately, the EU has decided to focus on opening up the competitor with 30% share instead of the market leader with 70% share.
"What if they do something bad" is a silly argument because it assumes they'd do something bad. It begs the question.
I don't believe that you should be able to force other people to do something just because you want to.
Well, you'll be glad to know that Apple doesn't get 30% of every subscription, so this is a moot argument.
Developers hardly "do all the work". Apple spends time and money creating the platform and developer tools. Society has long recognize the right of creators to charge to access their platform. It's like people forget a whole history of business exists when they discuss Apple.
Netflix doesn't pay Apple anything for new Netflix subscriptions.
Billions chose the iPhone because, not, in spite of those “limitations”.
Billions did not buy an iPhone hoping that someday they’d be able to side load. And if you bought an iPhone on that premise, you’d be an absolute Wally.
Side loading is quite likely not the primary reason a person bought an iPhone.
I own one. If I could I would sideload. It is not even in the top five reason why I originally bought an iPhone.
These days I use both OSs.
Sideloading has become a cause celebre from the "free my iphone" crowd. A restricted activity that Apple activists use decrying Apples' total control over IOS.
Of course not, but its provisions clearly target Apple-specific business decisions instead of addressing the Google-specific issues that I mentioned. For example, side loading is already supported by android.
All will need to allow side loading, 3rd party app store, 3rd party payment systems, etc...
Okay.
I personally don't see it as targeting Apple rather they have a "vision" and want it the be the standard.
Apple and Google will both need to adapt and adopt.
Come on. This isn't hard or controversial. If Bob has a red ball and Sally has a green ball, then requiring green balls targets Bob.
And, of course, you ignored the part about not addressing the specific behavior of the market leader that has created the duopoly.
Just looking at the base line.
At the moment I am awaiting for what Apple's solution will really be and wondering when this will creep across the pond.
They already have it with the Mac. What makes iPhone different? I have dabbled with third party stores on Android and unless you are actively looking for sketchy stuff, you will never get infected. You already need to do this in Mac and Windows. iOS is the only exception here and once EU passes the law, Apple will be forced to change this as it should.