RJ should really reconsider. The apple music integration is a complete clusterF that doesn't work 90% of the time in my gen 2 r1s. Not mention lack of text support of ANY kind and over buggyness of the whole UI
You are dead wrong.VW bought Rivian software not long ago... BMW and its brands have an upcoming version of their software that will be pretty great with a panoramic display. Tesla has its own software / hardware so vertically integrated that's pretty hard to beat. Others will eventually catch up.
Vehicle brands are starting to wake up and realize how crappy it is to outsource everything when it comes to electronics.
Apple missed the boat. Forest for the trees on this one.
All the downvotes are coming from people who have no clue what vertical integration vs outsourcing looks like in the auto business. Literally group think. How's that new iPhone treating ya? The one you get every single year to show it off to your friends?
It's not just about maps though. It's about Maps, Waze, Messages, WhatsApp, Music, Podcasts, Calendar, HomeKit, Siri, and other Apple apps that are automatically integrated into CarPlay.My thoughts exactly. I used to have the opinion that "no CarPlay - no purchase" but not anymore. For me the fact that you have to sign up for yet another company's privacy nightmares and possible even pay a subscription for vehicle features is my biggest objection, but I am over it. I have been eyeing the Rivian for some time, and I feel I could just get a mount and keep using my Maxipad phone for maps or maybe an iPad mini and be perfectly happy. Or just wind up using the OEM maps and not care anymore.
RJ should really reconsider. The apple music integration is a complete clusterF that doesn't work 90% of the time in my gen 2 r1s. Not mention lack of text support of ANY kind and over buggyness of the whole UI
It's not just about maps though. It's about Maps, Waze, Messages, WhatsApp, Music, Podcasts, Calendar, HomeKit, Siri, and other Apple apps that are automatically integrated into CarPlay.
This is complete nonsense. 1) I haven't bought a new iphone in five years and don't plan on it for at least one or two more. 2) without fail the infotainment systems offered by car manufacturers have UI and UX that are hot garbage. Personally I prefer an old-style radio with buttons and just mounting my iPhone for maps, etc. But if I have to get saddled with a touch screen then I want that touch screen (in every car I buy or rent) to have car play so that it's always the way I want it. I suspect a pretty large contingent of Android users feel the same way about Android Auto.
The car manufacturers should focus on making cars and leave the software and UX to people who know and care about what they're doing.
I turned away a car Enterprise tried to give me because all it had was BT. (older Jeep Renegade) - they eventually got me a 2026 Jeep Wrangler with CarPlay.I travel a lot and always rent a car with CarPlay.
My spouse has a Tesla. The mapping on the Tesla is indeed nice ... but it SUCKS that Tesla does not offer CarPlay.
Any car company that does not offer CarPlay SUCKS.
No, a lot of the downvotes are because some of us don’t give a damn about how good the OEM software is. There are things in CarPlay that Rivian will not and cannot provide. Their software can be fantastic but if it is missing something that customers need then it fails that customer. There is no justification for Rivian to not allow CarPlay for the customers who want it. At this point it seems like an ego thing for them where they cannot conceive that someone might want an alternative.VW bought Rivian software not long ago... BMW and its brands have an upcoming version of their software that will be pretty great with a panoramic display. Tesla has its own software / hardware so vertically integrated that's pretty hard to beat. Others will eventually catch up.
Vehicle brands are starting to wake up and realize how crappy it is to outsource everything when it comes to electronics.
Apple missed the boat. Forest for the trees on this one.
All the downvotes are coming from people who have no clue what vertical integration vs outsourcing looks like in the auto business. Literally group think. How's that new iPhone treating ya? The one you get every single year to show it off to your friends?
Probably a typo by whoever wrote this from the Macrumors site…Uhh… is that an example of their AI voice-to-text service?
convicted
adjective
having officially been found guilty of a crime by a law court:
- Being a convicted criminal, I couldn't really get a job.
- a convicted murderer
Apple Maps is ‘getting better’…in my use it hasn’t been better than Waze when using CarPlay. As for Tesla…it took a few days, but the lack CarPlay wasn’t as bad as I imagined it would be. Full self driving (and whatever the version of it will be that Rivian ends up developing) is a decent trade off for the lack of CarPlay. Any other car, CarPlay would be a necessity.This is my number one complaint about my Tesla. CarPlay is just better. Apple Maps is better. I wish I had the choice, but oh well.
I had a Tesla, one of the reasons I sold it, was that the vertical integration was limited and the software choice was very limited and poor, yeah you could watch Netflix during charging 🤷♂️. Also another great feature of Apple CarPlay (or AA for the matter). I get in one of our 3 cars and they all have the “same functionality” absolutely ***** great. Lots of apps, even business ones I cannot get in any other way except my iPhone …VW bought Rivian software not long ago... BMW and its brands have an upcoming version of their software that will be pretty great with a panoramic display. Tesla has its own software / hardware so vertically integrated that's pretty hard to beat. Others will eventually catch up.
Vehicle brands are starting to wake up and realize how crappy it is to outsource everything when it comes to electronics.
Apple missed the boat. Forest for the trees on this one.
All the downvotes are coming from people who have no clue what vertical integration vs outsourcing looks like in the auto business. Literally group think. How's that new iPhone treating ya? The one you get every single year to show it off to your friends?
Euh... last time I checked the customer was still king. He who pays decides and stuff. But hey, people who have a 100K to spend (on a car) usually are not the people I hang with so it really isn't a problem in my book.It's not unusual for the Apple faithful to be uninformed about the complexity of an auto manufacturer's existing telematics system.
Add in Apples penchant for control and suddenly things become quite complicated. One can't always have what one wants.
The problem is the software being outdated very soon. And the brand gone. Maybe.VW bought Rivian software not long ago... BMW and its brands have an upcoming version of their software that will be pretty great with a panoramic display. Tesla has its own software / hardware so vertically integrated that's pretty hard to beat. Others will eventually catch up.
Vehicle brands are starting to wake up and realize how crappy it is to outsource everything when it comes to electronics.
Apple missed the boat. Forest for the trees on this one.
All the downvotes are coming from people who have no clue what vertical integration vs outsourcing looks like in the auto business. Literally group think. How's that new iPhone treating ya? The one you get every single year to show it off to your friends?
They don't have to outright sell data to profit from their tight control of the platform.bs analpgy. tell me how data gets money from my data? See another comment in which I debunk this nonsense.
Then you'll have to wait for the Apple Car. Maybe it will materialize at some point.They want to sell the driver’s data to “trusted partners,” nothing more. GM basically came right out and said it, and I’m not at all interested in a “closer relationship” with an auto manufacturer.