That is very Wrong. Heck, I'm over 16 and from a family of landowners and I can't afford one.
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That is very Wrong. Heck, I'm over 16 and from a family of landowners and I can't afford one.
PS3 is a games console. The price isn't spot on for that. If a car had an ion engine stuck to it and therefore cost a bucket load compared to other cars, but less compared to other ion engines - it's still a car and people who want to drive will not buy it.
Lol..no, if you want games, controller, ect the difference adds up
But for me, you right. I could have bought a PS3, and less Wii stuff, but guess what? I like the Wii more, thats right, if the PS3 was 250 and the Wii was 250, I still would have bought the Wii!
Price is only one factor, games, fune etc are other factors
Is that a good or bad thing? I don't want Blue-Ray, Blue-Ray games , or anything else that makes the price so much.
That comes on a 250 dollar system,170 handheld and 130 handheld
Comes on a 250 System, 130 system, 170 handheld and 130 handheld
I've yet to see that....GoW still takes the best graphics
250 system has that!! Or were we just talking about Wireless controller? Then all the next gen systems have that!
Wow, every system has had other features!!
This is turning into another console war forum and we don't want that. The point is that someone high up in the programming industry has finally said what we all knew, PS3 is more powerful. he also said that it's harder to program for but that is to be expected when one innovates.
There is one reason and one reason only that the PS3 is about 5x better for GTA than X360 and that's the storage capacity of the disc. GTA games have always pushed the limits of world size and quality in their games and GTA4 will be no different. That is why the 360 is the limiting factor in their development.
There is one reason and one reason only that the PS3 is about 5x better for GTA than X360 and that's the storage capacity of the disc. GTA games have always pushed the limits of world size and quality in their games and GTA4 will be no different. That is why the 360 is the limiting factor in their development.
Uh... no he didn't. They didn't mention power or programmability - just storage
Stop warmongering, ye!I stand corrected, he didn't specifically mention programmability, but he did say, "both have enormous challenges" and that "both have their own particular pleasures and pains". Which certainly could point to programming for the cell since it has been cited by others as a difficulty.
Ill ignore your last comment, i was trying to just point soe stuff out, no need to get sarcastic is there
Whether you want a blu ray drive is not the point. Most computers come with software you don't need, I don't use garage band but i have it. Blu ray is the most popular and powerful next gen DVD format. Its going to mean bigger and more High def games for the PS3. that is a good thing.
The wii does have online gaming that is true, except no game currently utilizes it and the only ones that look to do so are mario strikers (which im getting and Pokemon. Thats ignoring the complete lack of good wii games currently available. Its going the way of the cube if things don't pick up.
360 graphics have near enough peaked, Cell is hugely more powerful and what with Edge and such now he;ping devs get a hold of the PS3 more it wont be long (only a few months so far) that we'll see PS3 exclusives looking and playing very well. lair, heavenly Sword are out in a few months.
Wii
Cheap
Fun
Wi-Fi
Downloadable back catalog
Social games
360
great catalog of games
Great online service
moderately expensive for the basic
PS3
Blu Ray games
Blu Ray player
Most powerful system
Free Wi-Fi
Playstation Home and soon Youtube like functionality
Great catalog of games coming soon.
I don't see why if you say you don't need this that and the other on the PS3 that you feel the need to argue about it, if you don't want it fine just don't try to prove to other people just how right you are.
Yet despite saying that you felt compelled to do so yourself...
So the PS3 has "great games coming", and the other 2 don't? Well okays thens let's forget about Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, Halo 3, Forza 2...
The Wii has Home functionality, it's called the Wii menu. Only there's no characters to create. Oh wait there is, you just don't pay for the clothes they wear. The 360 has it too, it's called Xbox Live and has all the communication features on the free version too.
PS3 most powerful? From what I've picked up (I don't read into the inner workings of CPUs) the PS3 has a faster CPU but the 360 has a better GPU. Though feel free to correct me on that.
Finally, BluRay most "powerful" next gen format? I really think you need to stop using "powerful" in the wrong places.
Oh, and sorry this is getting convoluted (I'm finishing off a 13k word dissertation and have lost my stream of time), but BluRay makes games bigger? Whilst in theory yes; why does Oblivion fit on a DVD9? Why does Pokemon DS only take up 64mb? Crysis will be on a single DVD, too. The only limitation is devs not compressing.
"Going the way of the cube"... LOLlipops.
I agree with that all, but fun is a personal thing, and I'd say video games in general are "fun", some would disagree.
One should also add "current best graphics" and get rid of expensive for basic's. Its less expensive then the PS3 FOR THE BASICS....maybe with all the extras their similar, but 400 is cheaper then 600 IMO(Core isn't even a system IMO shouldn't be used against the PS3)
Home isn't public yet, so thats not really a plus. Most powerful system, hasn't been showen yet. And great games are coming to all the system, its all about personal choose for games. Blue-Ray should be mentioned, as its a feature, but that doesn't mean everyone is going to want it. Just like not everyone will want what the other systems offer
The only problem is, Gargeband doesn't make the computer cost 1/3 more then it would without it...Blue-Ray in the PS3 does. And since Blue-Ray Movies wouldn't really do anything for me(my HDTV is currently broken , and even still I don't buy many movies) that means all it does is allow game space. I'll take a few mutli disk games, and some good compression from Devs
Cuve lacked strong 3rd party support. What does the wii have? I have a wii and so far all ive seen wrth buying is Zelda, sports and mario strikers when its released. without Kart, metroid, mario, zelda etc its not worth the purchase.
Larger doesn't mean more powerful. It hasn't got "great power or strength", it just holds more. It's larger, or use a thesaurus for an alternative for that if you wish. Some ideas- substantial, immense, monstrous and my personal favourite- tremendous.
Your sig says you have a Wii. Maketh your mind up. Oh and there's plenty of games, it's 6 months in, I'm only buying the utter best and I have a library of 6 games (and about 6-7 VC games). Hmm. It also says you're a newbie so I guess you didn't see the posts made that there was a surge in Dev Kit sales so bad that we had to wait months to get hold of one ourselves. OMGOSH do you know what that means? It already means it's beyond the Cube and that there is going to be a tidal wave of games from devs, spurred by the insane world domination of the Wii, hitting from late 2007 to god knows when. Be it for good or bad (most 3rd party games being terrible).
The game is shipping on a DVD9. FFS. Upping it to PS3 and using BluRay, WTF does that achieve? It was a point on storage and that a super huge friggin super game like that can live on a DVD9.
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I've realised I'm talking to somebody who can't follow their own arguments so I'm out.
Why do you guys only consider the console's price? The biggest money drain is on games and accesores at the end of the day those 350$ will look meager to what you will spend on games on a generation, heck make that a single year. Unless of course, you pirate.
If you can afford the luxury as gaming you can afford a Wii just as much as you can afford a PS3, unless you are 14 and depend on your parents to get you stuff, parents have the same "imaginary money barrier" where they think 600$ + $2000 on games is unattainable but THAT minus 350$ is enough to send their kids to college
Besides, its not like the PS3 is overpriced. Man can people be really greedy. If you don't want a PS3 just say it has crummy games but don't say its too expensive that you'll have to stop eating for a month.
I guess its clear now why people will go rampant on days like Black Friday and Boxing day or whatever it is on Canada, if they can save 2 freaking bucks on a $45 item then they will be willing to get up early, go through hell, push a few old ladies down the stairs, etc, just to do it.
Seriously I can't think of a situation where someone who can buy a Wii can not buy a PS3, honestly I can't, outside of kids with allowance money or something like that.
If you can afford the luxury as gaming you can afford a Wii just as much as you can afford a PS3, unless you are 14 and depend on your parents to get you stuff, parents have the same "imaginary money barrier" where they think 600$ + $2000 on games is unattainable but THAT minus 350$ is enough to send their kids to college
Besides, its not like the PS3 is overpriced. Man can people be really greedy. If you don't want a PS3 just say it has crummy games but don't say its too expensive that you'll have to stop eating for a month.
I guess its clear now why people will go rampant on days like Black Friday and Boxing day or whatever it is on Canada, if they can save 2 freaking bucks on a $45 item then they will be willing to get up early, go through hell, push a few old ladies down the stairs, etc, just to do it.
Seriously I can't think of a situation where someone who can buy a Wii can not buy a PS3, honestly I can't, outside of kids with allowance money or something like that.
My only thing about the PS3 is that it's expensive. I wouldn't get one no matter the price, but still, that makes me mad!
21, student working arse off to graduate with First Class honours (the first class bit is as good as mine now, btw). Can afford to spend about £400 a term. Bought iMac and digital SLR. could afford to buy a Wii. couldn't afford to buy a PS3. DING.
That enough for you?
OMGOSH I'm not 14 and don't depend on my parents. Your thinking is broken.
Pssh... It doesn't have to be Black Friday to do that, it's fun every day of the year!
I really don't understand how you can say this. There is a huge difference between $250 and $600. It's like saying, I want a new car and if I can afford a Hyundai I can afford a Mercedes.
I'm simply baffled by your reasoning. I'm responsible with my money, I don't just go out and buy the best of everything because that would be foolish. I wanted a game console, the PS3 was too expensive for a game console, so I went with the Wii. Sure, if you are in the market for a Blu-Ray player then the PS3 is definitely the way to go.
Again, the whole being responsible with your money thing should cover that.
That's absurd. You can't just use percentages. Working your analogy backward, I could say there's a huge difference between a 1L bottle of Coke and a 2L bottle or between a Hershey bar and a Sharffen Berger bar.
In terms of absolute value, it's not a big deal. The difference only matters to the cheap and poor whiny bastards. Such consumers are obviously not in Sony's target market.
What I don't get is why someone who can only afford a Hyundai would **** all over Mercedes because they cost more due to features they personally would never use, as if there's some shame in putting out a premium product and demanding a premium for it.
I use mine more for Blu-ray movies than games. But when GTA IV ships, the hours may tip heavily in favour of the games.
???? it wouldnt let me post unless i wrote something outside the quote. why is this a talking point?
too bad that rockstar went downhill after GTA2
on plattforms: blu ray outselling hd-dvd 10 to 7 ? whoopy do.. that's hardly a lot thinking about the so far rather low sales of both medias
also it's not really that relevant
blu-ray simply won't make a difference just like halo 3,metroid prime 3 or final fantasy 13: it's preaching to the choir, not expanding the marketshare: those who want those 3 things very likely already have their console
believe it or not: i like neither halo, nor metroid nor final fantasy
i just bought Rome: Total War 3 weeks ago for 10 bucks and i'm having more fun with it than with zelda twilight princess (borrowed from my brother) or any other single player next-gen game i played so far
2 days ago i installed the rome total realism mod for it and i'm having even more fun... it's beyond me why we don't get such great strategy games on consoles
on plattforms: blu ray outselling hd-dvd 10 to 7 ? whoopy do.. that's hardly a lot thinking about the so far rather low sales of both medias
also it's not really that relevant
blu-ray simply won't make a difference just like halo 3,metroid prime 3 or final fantasy 13: it's preaching to the choir, not expanding the marketshare: those who want those 3 things very likely already have their console
believe it or not: i like neither halo, nor metroid nor final fantasy
i just bought Rome: Total War 3 weeks ago for 10 bucks and i'm having more fun with it than with zelda twilight princess (borrowed from my brother) or any other single player next-gen game i played so far
2 days ago i installed the rome total realism mod for it and i'm having even more fun... it's beyond me why we don't get such great strategy games on consoles