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Rogers to Bring iPhone to Canada
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Really?!???!?
So that 5¢/kb DL rate would apply to HTML downloads, including page graphics?!?
I THOUGHT SO....GODDAM!!!!
Def. 3G model...My friend at Rogers told me 6mths ago that they were not interested in the Edge version because it is being phased out in favor of 3G.
glennyboywpg -- most likely, depending on what unlock you used -- you will be able to restore your iPhone to the newest firmware (2.0...or later) once its released on Rogers which will allow you to activate it normally and you will have a warranty assuming this happens within the 1 year timeframe. (The new unlocks don't leave lasting damage/change so once the software is restored, it makes no difference, the iPhone warranty is conditional upon activation with one of the authorized service providers). If you're on a 1.0.2 unlocked phone its a slightly different story but its still doable.
Every time a new country has been added there has been a new software version. As far as I know, if you buy a 1.1.4 phone in USA you can activate it on O2 in Britain and have no problem, the software just has to recognize the location, which current versions do not for rogers.
TheSpecialist - Since you don't have an iPhone, i don't see how you can speak so authoritatively about it and how the unlocking / software updating works, in any case, you're most likely incorrect given most of what i've read online and deduced from playing around with the software on my iPhone.
Finally! Some sorta, good news! Good news on a timeframe on iPhone to Canada. Bad news it's gonna be on Rogers' network.
Why doesn't Apple do what they did in Europe and simply offer an unlocked iPhone out the gate? I'm sure they have their reasons but I'm still puzzled just the same
As I mentioned earlier there are no other GSM carriers in Canada so even if it was unlocked Rogers is the only choice.
THANK GOD!!! Now the whining will finally come to an end
Wait till Rogers announces it's iPhone calling plan prices. Then the whining will start again along with the "blame Apple for the Rogers high prices".
DUDE, you dont understand.. ROGERS (and Fido who are ROGERS) are the ONLY GSM company in Canada. The iPhone is GSM.
People, get a basic understanding of the technology here in Canada. Its not all Rosy !!
Deep breaths, deeeeeeeeeep breaths... No need to get all worked up over nothing, obviously you know what they meant, yes it was an incorrect term but still...
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if Canada gets the 3g iPhone before Scotland I ain't going to be happy. Lol.
Seriously you guys are going to love it.
if Canada gets the 3g iPhone before Scotland I ain't going to be happy. Lol.
Seriously you guys are going to love it.
DUDE-Sorry...didn't know that, which is why I posted. By the way, DUDE is overused. Unless you're 14 years old, find something new...
Your friend didn't know anything. He/she was speculating based on rumors and gossip around the workplace and on the internet in lovely place like this. People who work for companies like to pretend that they have the inside track on important announcements. They don't. But it makes them feel important. Unless your friend is Ted Rogers or one of the high up executives, they didn't know sh**.
Anyway, I thought I'd chime in on this iPhone love-in and Rogers hate-in.
This is good news for Apple-loving Canadians. I would have bought one if I still lived in Toronto, but I moved to Los Angeles and bought one here instead.
Why is no one wondering what kind of deal Rogers made with Apple?
What will the iPhone's price be? You know it will be more than the $399/$499 pricing here. $499/$599? Most likely. And if they phase out the 8 GB, as has been rumored, then you'll see $599 as the starting price point? Yikes. Don't forget the ~$100 you'll want to spend on getting a decent set of iPhone headphones on top of that. And the 13% tax. Double and triple yikes.
What will the iPhone data plan be? It's not going to be $20 extra per month. $40 extra per month? $50? Will it even be unlimited? Will the data usage be capped? That is very possible, with the subscriber having to pay extra for anything they go over.
There are a lot of variables that need to be found out before everyone gets too excited. But it is good news.
To all those that are complaining that the price points are too high and are making the iPhone a luxury item: IT IS a luxury item. It isn't McDonald's, it's Morton's.
And yes, Roger's has 3G. It's not all over the country, but they have it in the major cities. And 3G devices are backwards compatible to EDGE.
Now about Rogers: I must say that for all the years that I was with Rogers, I had great service. I had excellent reception and decent customer service experiences. Not perfect, but decent. The worst (and only bad) thing that happened to me with Rogers was when I had to argue my way out of cancelation fees for two phones when we left for LA. It took over an hour because I had to retell my story to every new rep I was transferred to, but once I got to the right rep, they wiped the fees clean ($400), and all was good.
benpca said:
I second that. You should be able to unlock it- check out iLiberty.
I agree that Robbers will rape us to no end with this. They already destroy us with their prices.
There's almost nothing left out of the old Fido. Only those that still have the old grandfathered plans have some sort of advantage.
We need more then 1 GSM provider in Canada and FAST.
Adi
heh, I love it
I don't think anyone's arguing that the iPhone is NOT a lux item. Of course it is. Do you NEED an iPhone? Hellz no. Are there other, more affordable options available? HELLZ yes. Are they better? Well that's debateable, but in many cases, it's fair to say yes. At the end of the day, you want an iPhone because it's an iPhone. I have no illusions about that myself.But you're right...we don't even know what Rogers will be offering. Personally, I'm rage-blind, but even speaking objectively, it's fair to look at their track record and make an educated guess as to just how taken advantage of the consumer is going to be. As someone posted earlier, lack of competition = gouging. Rogers can go ahead and charge whatever it wants for the iPhone and a plan, because they are now, officially, the only game in town. (hax0rz and unlocks notwithstanding).
The thing is, an unlimited data plan of $10/mo is not unrealistic as Fido has already set that precedent (provided it's not just WAP, as someone else on the thread pointed out...GAWD I hope that's inaccurate.) Even with the Fido example tho, BELL has a $7/mo unlimited Internet plan for the HTC Touch, and it works pretty damn well. If Rogers has any sense at all (and I have little faith that they do), they'll apply that philosophy (that being, "give the people what they want") and come up with a comparable plan. If they have a $60/month unlimited all-inclusive plan, I'm in. $70 is pushing it. $80 and up and I'm still better off getting the phone and disabling the Internet connection and using the built-in WiFi antenna instead. (Hooray for TO and it's millions of people who don't know how to hide their wireless connections)
EDIT: To all those pointing out that FIDO is ROGERS...yes, but it's the same as Banana Republic and the Gap...same owner, different brands. They are, for all intents and purposes, separate.
I think the interesting thing about this is that it opens up the possibility that apple is not moving away from a single carrier agreement for the 3g iphone.
I dont see them introducing old technologies to a new market and it may mean that the current contracts are linked over time not by model.
Just my thoughts on this - what do you guys think?
I dont see them introducing old technologies to a new market and it may mean that the current contracts are linked over time not by model.
Just my thoughts on this - what do you guys think?
heh, I love it
If you read some of the previous posts, you will see otherwise. They want it cheap or free, or Apple and Rogers should pay them for the honor of them buying an iPhone and using it on Rogers.
But you're right...we don't even know what Rogers will be offering. Personally, I'm rage-blind, but even speaking objectively, it's fair to look at their track record and make an educated guess as to just how taken advantage of the consumer is going to be. As someone posted earlier, lack of competition = gouging. Rogers can go ahead and charge whatever it wants for the iPhone and a plan, because they are now, officially, the only game in town. (hax0rz and unlocks notwithstanding).
The thing is, an unlimited data plan of $10/mo is not unrealistic as Fido has already set that precedent (provided it's not just WAP, as someone else on the thread pointed out...GAWD I hope that's inaccurate.) Even with the Fido example tho, BELL has a $7/mo unlimited Internet plan for the HTC Touch, and it works pretty damn well. If Rogers has any sense at all (and I have little faith that they do), they'll apply that philosophy (that being, "give the people what they want") and come up with a comparable plan. If they have a $60/month unlimited all-inclusive plan, I'm in. $70 is pushing it. $80 and up and I'm still better off getting the phone and disabling the Internet connection and using the built-in WiFi antenna instead. (Hooray for TO and it's millions of people who don't know how to hide their wireless connections)
I don't think you'll see the cheap data plans that you are hoping for. The best way to make an educated guess as to what will be, is to look at the current AT&T pricing and to realize that Rogers' pricing will be higher. There is no way that there will be a $10/month unlimited data plan for the iPhone. That's crazy talk. The Fido WAP thing that you are referring to is accurate, BTW.
Rogers will not do anything that will cause them to lose money. This deal was made because it will make Rogers money, not because they wanted to be the cool kids with the iPhones in Canada. In other words, they will not offer cheap data plans that will cause them to provide more service than they are being paid for.
great for those in Canada. i guess he can't tell us anything else, b/c he probably knows about the 3G iphone that's coming
hah. isnt fido's $10 unlimited on wap browsing only also, much like rogers $7 (pos) 'unlimited internet' plan? ew.
as mentioned, rogers wont have a super browsing plan, period. they are the worst data prices and dont need to change it, as they have a monopoly. if the tier plan comes out ever similar to what was rumored, then goign up per level, i could see rogers offering an iphone package (well, the data part that is) for 35-45$/mo roughly, though 35 would be stretching it... and capped at 1-2gb max. Or *unlimited and will consider anything over 1.5-2gb abuse and you'll be charged/warned.
all the useles csr's have said once they get it well be able to use existing phones on the plan, but.. that's to be seen if theyll allow non-rogers branded phones on the iphone plan.. roger's csrs are 99% wrong and useless on everything :|. i sure hope so, so I can use my iphone on a proper plan for a while since the phone will be way overpriced, like every other handheld they offer
(ok, maybe well get lucky and theyll have a discount on a 3yr term contract.. ew.)