Does this touch bar work on the principle of "conductivity" that requires skin contact? Like the surface of the iPhone? Or is it pressure sensitive. For example, could you operated it with the eraser end of a pencil. I ask this because I was planning on updating to a MacBook Pro when they come out but I'm paralyzed from the neck down and I use a typing stick by mouth that has a rubber tip to type with as well as operate a trackball, remote control, phone Etc.… I know there are mouse sticks out there with tips that operate iPhones and iPads by conductivity but the tips don't work very well for typing and working a trackball remotes and such because they're too slippery. This requires a rubber tip to have some kind of grip to operate devices. If the touch bar works on conductivity I don't now how I would be able to use function keys.
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Roundup: Hands-On With Touch Bar on New MacBook Pros
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For people who think Apple is simply coasting along, the touch bar involved a crazy amount of technology.
https://www.macstories.net/mac/new-macbook-pro-touch-bar-t1-chip-run-on-a-variant-of-watchos/
But hey, seems it's way easier to just liken it to an inferior implementation on an older windows laptop and dismiss it outright.
https://www.macstories.net/mac/new-macbook-pro-touch-bar-t1-chip-run-on-a-variant-of-watchos/
But hey, seems it's way easier to just liken it to an inferior implementation on an older windows laptop and dismiss it outright.
Especially the ones who had early access and would like to keep it. We know how it is with these sites.. early = $
They're not awful, they just don't make sense. Keyboard/Trackpad works perfectly for a computer. This newly introduced interface by Apple, is not correct either. Anything that takes your eyes off the screen, is a slowdown/bottleneck. This touch bar is Apples way of not giving into a touch screen notebook. I also view it as a gimmick. I have no need for such a tool but maybe others can make use of it?
I hope Apple folks are reading these boards.. I'm also hoping Apple throws in an lighting to thunderbolt adapter/dongle for iphone connectivity, for pete sake.
Dude, what are you doing running a nested VMware environment on a laptop? Studying? Good luck with your studies if true.
The 286 comment was an exaggeration but I'm thinking this laptop doesn't fit your use case. Unless work is paying for it. As a vi man I imaging you already have every short cut already committed to memory making the courage bar redundant.
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Might be cool to have your playlists scrolling on the courage bar while you're working, web surfing, etc. my feeling is it will provide some fast short cuts.
But it's confirmed my feelings about MacOS. Although it's a GUI interface, you need to know all the keyboard shortcuts to get the most out of it and the courage bar will make it easier to access these shortcuts.
I'm waiting for the student offering next year so I can pair my new MacBook Pro up with a set of beats and make myself look like a real tool on campus.
Way to insult people... I am a newbie to MacRumors, but if you take the time to notice, you are insulting some people that have been here as far back as 2000 and are disappointed in the new stuff. This an article on MacRumors, do you really believe that _anyone_ would pay people to post here? /boggle
How about you try and express your opinion and quit insulting the integrity of others. Their opinions are not any more important than yours, but you don't get to pretend that reverse is true either.
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Any you don't use the escape key much? Interesting. I still use a lot of apps that use escape as the cancel key and though I don't use VI as much as I used to, it relies heavily on it.
Why? I've got a 45 day uptime where 50% or more of the time has been spent blazing through handbrake encodes.
I think that's precisely the problem.
Some people have been here for so long that they are stuck in their own bubble of what they feel Apple ought to be, rather than acknowledging and accepting what Apple really is. It's like that old geezer who sits at the coffee shop all day and complains about everything under the sun.
These people are the problem, and they need to either leave or shut up or both, because I am convinced that there is nothing constructive that they can add to any discussion given their closed mindset, and they serve to only pollute the forums with their negativity and acerbic remarks.
Haha. I was just matching your normative 'must suck' post. Keep rippin' man.
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All the colours of the rainbow, online and in the real world. Imagine if I could get tell certain people at work to either leave for shut up. The world would be perfect!
Used 3D Touch a while, went back to my 6 Plus. Had a revelation. Staying with my 6+. You can keep your 3D Touch.
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Or it could've been the prefect image of Apple's goals these days: It could've had no ports whatsoever and be totally ready for wireless charging that would be launched in 2020! Sure it'd be a bit painful for early adopters, but I bet they'd be "courageous" enough to do it!
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You need to hook up some beautiful adapters to see how they are actually perfectly aligned. Or something.
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My rMBP is specced for the same 10 hours and I can get barely 6 out of it if I use it sparingly. If I actually work I get 3-4 hours max. Today I pulled out the cord at 100%, worked for 45 minutes and battery level showed I had 0:44 left. How's that for 10 hours? And yes, battery condition: Normal.
I'm very surprised if the new MBP does any better. I'd welcome with open arms a machine that is specced for 36h, I might actually survive one full work day with it. Maybe.
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It's a huge improvement over the rectangular v1 tires they had! The improved form makes them roll so much better!
And physical powerkey! How do we hard reset with no physical button and sealed batteries?
When pushing my MBP to it's limits when hard core rendering, I crash the whole beast at least once a week. We have to wait 10 hours to drain the battery for a frozen machine?
How does that make you a "pro" user? It could just mean you watch 4k porn while facebooking. And also explains why your Esc key is untouched - as is apparently all of your macbook's keyboard. Ever considered that a desktop would be a much better fit for you?
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Do you realize it takes now pressing two different things to achieve the same result, one of which isn't something you can reach without looking what you're doing. There was a reason the esc key was at the top left corner. And there is a reason it's used in all the applications. But keep gaming, you'll get it when you get out of kindergarten. "Lolz".
I think that may be part of the problem: lopsided priorities. Their Mac division (apparently) spends enormous amounts of time on an over-engineered gimmick feature, but can't even manage to keep their desktop machines somewhat up to date.
You're obviously not a developer. A regular MacBook or MBA is probably already good for you.
I am a developer, and I need 32GB of RAM because I need to run IntelliJ, Chrome, Hadoop, Linux VM, MySQL on my laptop for work. 16GB is making me not able to run all of them at the same time.
The touch bar eliminates the physical ESC key. That basically cripples any VIM or Emacs usage. And for a regular OK/Cancel dialog box, tell me how it makes sense to touch the touch bar for the ESC key for Cancel and the physical return key for OK?
And yes, when I code, I don't use the touchscreen. But a touchscreen is far more useful than a touch bar, especially when you are sitting with your coworker debugging or doing code review together.
Why am I even replying to you? You're not even a developer...
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Yeah but its a dell ;( and it has windoz good luck with that
Yeah, but I am seriously thinking about buying the dell instead and install Ubuntu on it. I feel stupid now waiting this long for the new and crippled MBP.
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That's with light usage. If you're rendering an after effects project battery usage will decline. 6-7 hours of usage is still insane compared to a few years ago you should be ecstatic.
Well considering it's my work laptop and I do major supply chain logistics from work and home, no, a desktop would not be a better fit for me. Why don't you worry about your own problems.
4K pr0n. Looooooooolz.
Dude, I'm guessing you drive the same way to work every day, sit in the same seat on the bus, eat the same thing for breakfast...
I'm thinking this issue is your resistance to change rather than the touch bar itself.
Still, how does one drain the battery of a laptop in 45 minutes? That's some atypical use.
They make perfect sense for flip screens and/or tablet-removables like the Surface Book (and equivalents in nearly all manufacturer lines now). That's where the usability trend is going... as is unified OSes across platforms, as phones become more powerful to run them.
Apple is courageously walking into a cul-de-sac.
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Pretty easily if you're rendering high resolution 3D on a Macbook Pro.
That's not atypical use... that's core demograpihc use.
You said price wasn't a concern, mainly because You weren't the one paying for it - it's a concern for me, even if I make money using it. But I get that it's a hard concept to understand if you are spending somebody else's money...
Touch Bar looks pretty cool, but I wonder if it would be better to allow a plugged-in iPhone or IPad to play this role. Sure, it would mean more distance to travel from the keys to the touch interface, but it would be much larger, and allow more room for functionality. And it would work for all Macs, not just the Macbooks with dedicated hardware.
Render a high res 3D model while on the go? Not convinced that's typical pro use case.