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Roundup of OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion Features and Notes
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What is your love of SL based on? You can disable or not use quite a few features in the latest OS
Honestly, I just am used to it and it works well. I have fiddeled with Lion in Apple stores alot lately and i like it...but i guess not enough to upgrade to it..even if it only cost 29.00 or so.
I guess im just wondering if i wanted to keep S.L. on my macbook pro...how long would it be useable? And still supported for security and obvious reasons.
Are you in highschool? And if so is it private or public? When I went to a private highschool I had to buy books but now I go to a public highschool and most textbooks are owned by the school and we get to use them while we're taking that class
I am liking this new OS X; the only thing I am worried about now is when the release the new MacBook Pro's I had planned on purchasing it but now that I see Mountain Lion is going to be released I am wondering if they are going to give it as a free update to customers who purchase the new Mac's once Mountain Lion is released or if we are all going to have to pay for it.
I think this is a big sign that we will be getting a new ATV3 in the near future, pehaps as soon as the iPad announcement. It doesn't make sense for every other Apple device to be capable of 1080p and have the ATV be the bottleneck with only 720p capability.
I bought a Mac to be a Mac, not a really fast iPad. I want to have the option of saving a document when I want to save the document or a picture, not when Apple decides to. I don't want to leave a website and have the same one staring at me when I reopen a browser. It's nice to have some things from the iPad/iPhone, but I bought them to have different capabilities.
I don't like the homogenization of OSX and iOS that I'm seeing coming down the pike. I also don't like the "churning" of a new OSX every 12 months because I think it's going to make outside developers more reticent to try and match Apple's turnover. It would seem to me that developers need about 2 years to make their money back and hasn't this been a problem in the past?? This new OSX rate is also going to make more older Apples obsolete at a greatly expanded rate.
OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion
Great, waiting for it to come, umm, i just found a good post about it with detailed information at http://blog.********.com/os-x-mountain-lion-arrives-this-summer/
Great, waiting for it to come, umm, i just found a good post about it with detailed information at http://blog.********.com/os-x-mountain-lion-arrives-this-summer/
It hard to say if this what is going to happen .But I will say one thing OS X and iOS will be more integrated and be different in the future.Just hope that apple does not do unnecessary GUI change like windows XP to windows vista and remove alot of OS X with a more iOS feel.
I don't have problem with bringing iOS to OS X and giving more features but do have problem with moving away from OS X to a iOS look and feel.
Well yes a OS X and iOS will be more integrated in the future and that is going happen in future no matter what and I'm okay with that .But moving away from a OS X to a iOS look and feel that is problem.
I also fear there is epidemic among OS makers now not just apple thinking this with OS X but even when you look at windows 8 and different Linux distros now that touch screen and iOS is the future and the classic windows look , OS X and classic Linux distros is over.
I also think there too much hype about cloud .Sure that is the future but I do not see hard drive going any time soon.May be DVD and blu ray
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i welcome debate because i'd love to have my faith restored, but everything about this is just... depressing.
The fact that there is no word of multi monitor support for full screen apps, but they have added airplay mirroring to your tv speaks volumes about their priorities.
Want fullscreen programs that make some sort of elegant use of your second monitor? Of course not, you just want to beam your iMovie of your latest vacation/birthday party to the tv totorture wow your friends and relatives.
Will quicktime X ever get back to quicktime pro levels? Silly person, why would anybody need an export target other than iTunes or social networking sites? In fact, what you really need is more ways to post to social networking sites.
I know any doom and gloom conspiracies about gatekeeper would be a slippery slope fallacy, but as someone who's entire software arsenal comes from developers who would likely have no interest in getting apple's blessings for their app releases, i can at very least say the feature is categorically unhelpful to a user like me.
Finally, and I can't quite understand why this doesn't irk more people... pretty much every tentpole feature listed is more or less a direct port of something from iOS. Doesn't it make anyone else feel like a second-class citizen being handed last year's mobile OS features as this year's new desktop OS enhancements? No matter that they'll give them to you for free on iOS but charge you when they hit the desktop.
I know that the mobile space is the most fertile right now, and thats where all the R&D is being funnelled, but while people are often quick to point out that there are two separate usage paradigms and thus you can't just slap a desktop OS onto a mobile device, it increasingly seems like the flip side of that statement is ignored.
As mobile devices become better suited for everyday computing, it should be that the "trucks" of the computer world become more focussed where their value lies. Which is to say I feel like they should be headed in the opposite direction, adding features that focus on elegant solutions to complicated tasks like development and content creation, not everyday ones like twitter integration and cross platform notifications of your game centre invites.
my 2 cents at least...
The fact that there is no word of multi monitor support for full screen apps, but they have added airplay mirroring to your tv speaks volumes about their priorities.
Want fullscreen programs that make some sort of elegant use of your second monitor? Of course not, you just want to beam your iMovie of your latest vacation/birthday party to the tv to
Will quicktime X ever get back to quicktime pro levels? Silly person, why would anybody need an export target other than iTunes or social networking sites? In fact, what you really need is more ways to post to social networking sites.
I know any doom and gloom conspiracies about gatekeeper would be a slippery slope fallacy, but as someone who's entire software arsenal comes from developers who would likely have no interest in getting apple's blessings for their app releases, i can at very least say the feature is categorically unhelpful to a user like me.
Finally, and I can't quite understand why this doesn't irk more people... pretty much every tentpole feature listed is more or less a direct port of something from iOS. Doesn't it make anyone else feel like a second-class citizen being handed last year's mobile OS features as this year's new desktop OS enhancements? No matter that they'll give them to you for free on iOS but charge you when they hit the desktop.
I know that the mobile space is the most fertile right now, and thats where all the R&D is being funnelled, but while people are often quick to point out that there are two separate usage paradigms and thus you can't just slap a desktop OS onto a mobile device, it increasingly seems like the flip side of that statement is ignored.
As mobile devices become better suited for everyday computing, it should be that the "trucks" of the computer world become more focussed where their value lies. Which is to say I feel like they should be headed in the opposite direction, adding features that focus on elegant solutions to complicated tasks like development and content creation, not everyday ones like twitter integration and cross platform notifications of your game centre invites.
my 2 cents at least...
this was a nice surprise today! looking forward to the next chapter of OS X. i like some features better than others, but hopefully those retina displays on macbook airs will be out soon!
I'm pretty sure that if Apple updates the Apple TV, they will include a graphics chip capable of higher res than 1080p, as the iMac and Apple cinema Display use 1440P, and they may include REtina support as well, regardless, I'll bet that it supports more than 1080P
No point in above 1080P as no mass-market television set is above that resolution.
As a photo professional, upgrades like Mountain Lion can cast a few disagreeable shadows. I develop a lot of stuff in Lightroom, and other applications full screen (30" ACD). And while I am sure it will have the capability of being disabled, notifications pulling my screen focus to the left every time I get an email would be unacceptable. What is now a feature, ten years ago would have been construed as an annoyance to productivity. My phone gives me all the notifications I need. So does my Mac Pro. If you need eye candy to play an animation for you when you get a new iMessage or email, you probably aren't the type of person that can concentrate on doing real work on a computer, and would be fine pandering to simply using an iPad. I look at the Apple OS ethos and wonder why their operating systems just have to do more and more, instead of focusing on a solid base upon which to run the optional software packages the user wants or needs to run. For instance, I can't drag more than 30 images from a Safari window into Finder before Finder hangs and must be relaunched. I can't sort so that 'Devices" is at the top of the Finder sidebar. (Useful with 15 TB of disks inside).
What I am saying is, if the OS could be made as a separate, stable entity, why can't we decide what features to install? Apple has the Mac App Store now, so delivery that way shouldn't be a problem. For instance, I mentioned that I use Lightroom. I have absolutely no need for iPhoto, so why must it be installed without question? With every new OS release, there are more icons lining the dock than before, getting in the way (as well as used disk space). I suppose for many users this is welcomed. I for one enjoy new things like Dashboard was when it was put in. But I feel like an OS should be more transparent, used as a base to run these apps that we really need, not to become bloatware (as iTunes has). Do one thing at a time, and do it well. This is the way it used to be, and it really does not need to change. What happens is, the heavier the OS releases become, the more power is needed to simply run the as-it-comes operating system on the same computer hardware. Obviously, this leaves less room for galloping through processes (however slight they may be). Also, there becomes a higher degree of the default installed applications becoming a "melting pot" with no outstanding apps, since they are made to be a "one size fits all." Upgrading to newer releases is fine and is encouraged, but why not give the option of adding the "extras" for free after the OS install or even choosing them beforehand? iLife could even be the default choice...but still a choice. If you decide later that you did want that app, why you could simply freely download it from Apple.
Also, even though this is touching the topic of beating a dead horse, why doesn't Apple at least *show* someone using a Mac Pro in their ads? Not promote it...just visually present it for a moment, so that it enters the realm of consciousness for people who may not be aware, or may be looking to switch from their old Windows towers to something familiar. Yes, they are more expensive, but it doesn't have to be an exclusive club. Some people don't want stacks of external devices peppered across their desk. No other Mac can offer more than 2 HDDs internally. At least continue to give us a choice. Unfortunately, Apple have set their lodestone to mostly iOS and laptop users. For those of us who use Apple computers which are rarely turned off, and hardly moved around on the desk even...it is frightful.
What I am saying is, if the OS could be made as a separate, stable entity, why can't we decide what features to install? Apple has the Mac App Store now, so delivery that way shouldn't be a problem. For instance, I mentioned that I use Lightroom. I have absolutely no need for iPhoto, so why must it be installed without question? With every new OS release, there are more icons lining the dock than before, getting in the way (as well as used disk space). I suppose for many users this is welcomed. I for one enjoy new things like Dashboard was when it was put in. But I feel like an OS should be more transparent, used as a base to run these apps that we really need, not to become bloatware (as iTunes has). Do one thing at a time, and do it well. This is the way it used to be, and it really does not need to change. What happens is, the heavier the OS releases become, the more power is needed to simply run the as-it-comes operating system on the same computer hardware. Obviously, this leaves less room for galloping through processes (however slight they may be). Also, there becomes a higher degree of the default installed applications becoming a "melting pot" with no outstanding apps, since they are made to be a "one size fits all." Upgrading to newer releases is fine and is encouraged, but why not give the option of adding the "extras" for free after the OS install or even choosing them beforehand? iLife could even be the default choice...but still a choice. If you decide later that you did want that app, why you could simply freely download it from Apple.
Also, even though this is touching the topic of beating a dead horse, why doesn't Apple at least *show* someone using a Mac Pro in their ads? Not promote it...just visually present it for a moment, so that it enters the realm of consciousness for people who may not be aware, or may be looking to switch from their old Windows towers to something familiar. Yes, they are more expensive, but it doesn't have to be an exclusive club. Some people don't want stacks of external devices peppered across their desk. No other Mac can offer more than 2 HDDs internally. At least continue to give us a choice. Unfortunately, Apple have set their lodestone to mostly iOS and laptop users. For those of us who use Apple computers which are rarely turned off, and hardly moved around on the desk even...it is frightful.
Say good-bye to Macintosh, and hello to consumer devices. Those of us who are power users and need a fast machine that doesn't rely on bells and shiny toys, should be looking to migrate to another platform.
I'm thinking my future is: Apple for iPhones, iPads, consumer based products.
Probably a Windows computer if I want to actually get any work done. Sad situation, but I guess I can't blame Apple. They didn't get to being one of the largest most profitable companies in the world by selling Macs.
I'm thinking my future is: Apple for iPhones, iPads, consumer based products.
Probably a Windows computer if I want to actually get any work done. Sad situation, but I guess I can't blame Apple. They didn't get to being one of the largest most profitable companies in the world by selling Macs.
Don't you think they are all minor additions for a major release, or it is just me?
Hopefully Apple will come out with some more solid features in the final release. I'd justify 10.8 update being this slim only if it will be allowed to run on the new iPad.
Hopefully Apple will come out with some more solid features in the final release. I'd justify 10.8 update being this slim only if it will be allowed to run on the new iPad.
Apple only supports the last two OS releases. When Mountain Lion is shipped, Snow Leopard is implicitly EOLed. It's always been like this.