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Roundup of OS X Mountain Lion Reviews: 'Faster and Smoother', 'Incremental', 'Bargain at Twice the Price'

koban4max said:
We don't need another fanboy in this forum.
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Since this is MacRumors, I'd prefer a fanboy over a pessimistic, anti-Apple, anti-iOS, anti-Mac know-it-alls.

I'd prefer people to think for themselves, but that's asking for too much.

I'd also prefer winning the lotto and being able to buy more Mac stuff.
 
koban4max said:
We don't need another fanboy in this forum.

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just buy the damn thing.
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haha are you serious, c'mon why you saying that, I mean if someone get the chance to get it 4 free why I should buy it now :roll eyes: but maybe I have to when it doesn't come into my inbox soon ;( or I take a call to the Apple Store :p
 
mrbyu said:
Please somebody answer, I really want to be sure about this!

Does ML create its own recovery partition on every machine? So let's say I want to install it on my brother's Mac with my Apple ID. So, I can make a clean install with a USB drive which I previously created on my Mac. But after I installed it, will it have it's own recovery partition on my brothers Mac too, letting him able to re-install it later if he wants to? Or would he be prompted to log in with my Apple ID in the recovery partition? Because afaik, Macs with pre-loaded OS X Lion don't ask after any Apple ID in the recovery partition. How does the recovery partition know if it is a pre-loaded OS X or one which you purchased from Apple Store and then you made a clean install with it?
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If the Mac didn't come with ML/L then it will ask for an Apple ID if you try to reload the OS.
 
TsunamiTheClown said:
Are you even remotely serious??? Vista 1 and 2 you got to be kidding. Have you actually tried to use Vista?

Snow Leopard and Lion were/are waaaay too functional to slap them with that kinda low class OS comparison.

How would you explain your connection?
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I've provided examples its up to you to read them.

Again, 10.7 didn't even support AD or SMB properly until 10.7.3. Thats 3 major revisions before it was even addressed. I have used Vista I support over 5000 computer mixed PC and Mac I've probably seen more in a day than you have in a year.
 
To sum up reactions: Apple innovates too quickly, and Apple innovates too gradually. Spend the $20. Also, Apple re-thought their entire OS and computing experience with iOS, years before Microsoft did, while Microsoft is still struggling to respond; therefore Apple is behind Microsoft.

(But I choose caution: wait until a point update or two. I don’t want to be a guinea pig with bragging rights.)
 
ristlin said:
What is it about the iOS interface you find stale? It's simple and it works. What do you want?
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You answered your own question. It's too simple, and while that is great practicality-wise, inevitably, people are going to get bored of the simplicity (after 5 generations of the same design). As for asking what people want, that's not the point. Apple's philosophy is that the consumer doesn't know what he/she wants. If you asked a person what more they wanted from a smartphone before the first iPhone was released, do you think they could've listed every single feature that made the iPhone so successful? If any person could do that, then why didn't any other companies try to invent the iPhone before Apple did? Same thing for the iPad.
 
Is anyone having problems downloading ML? I want to upgrade, but I want to know If I should wait a few more hours.
 
Will Apple ever change the stupid idea of the menu bar at the top of the screen all the time?

It's obvious why it was designed this way.

Years ago screen real estate was at a premium, every pixel/scan line counted and to have menus on every window would of meant less room for windows on screen, so let's just have the one menu. So on our small, low res screens it will work better.

And that is a fair and good way of thinking.

Today with say 1200 horizontal lines, lets say 1920x1200, this idea falls away and we now find that we may have a small program at the bottom of the screen, and have to move al the way up to the top of our LARGE screen to access the menus.

That's not a productive way to do anything, You would wish the menu's to be close to the program, to minimise pointer movement.

Do you think they are just unable to make this change for no other reason that "that's how it's always been" thinking?
 
Guys, I just finally got ML installed on my iMac and I have a question. Is there a gesture for notification centre with the Magic Mouse. Seems stupid that they'd have one for the trackpad and NOT the magic mouse. :(

If I have the NC up and swipe two fingers to the right it gets rid of it but I can't seem to find one to bring it up.
 
pmz said:
LOL Again, more FUD.

Reformat your machines. AD bugs were present, that doesn't mean it "didn't work" and SMB works perfectly fine for me and has through Lion into ML.

Try again Troll.
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https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3198558?start=15&tstart=0

You already have proven you have no clue what you are talking about. How will reformatting change something Apple changed in AD bind? How is it that all the sudden AD and SMB worked for people in 10.7.3? You home users crack me up! You guys know so much because you surf Facebook and use GIMP!
 
IndyDave said:
Maybe you can bring your genius out from behind the genius bar and come up with the next great thing that will satisfy every critic and keep shareholders happy.
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Yeah sure, quit devoting all the companies resources to cell phones. Stop being a mobile device mfg. and start releasing hardware and software that actually warrants the upgrade, not .2 incremental bumps. One of the richest companies in the world and act like they have $120 to thier name for R&D.
 
For those that hated Lion, I sympathize with you, although I don't agree with everything. Many have posted legitimate reasons for their dislike of Lion, as the OS wasn't perfect. I agree with many of their assertions.

At least for me, all the issues I had were fixed or able to bring back to their SL version (finder window options), but I am coming from a strict consumer perspective. I work in the Windows workspace, but VMware takes care of that for me.

However, I can't say that Lion was pointless, as some in this forum argue. When coupled with a Magic trackpad, (or an MBP, of course), it comes alive. For me, it was worth the upgrades just for the gesture based navigation and control. So in the interest of balance, I'll point out why Lion was a good OS for me:

- I thought Launchpad was pointless before I got the Magic Trackpad. But once I got it, no more looking for the dock. Five-finger pinch, and my apps are there. Fast.

- While Spaces was useful, I find the new multiple desktops superior, just because of the linear navigation. This right here is my favorite feature, and I just cannot live without it. Four-finger swipe and I'm where I need to be. Again, fast as hell and super intuitive. Excellent for multiple VMs, etc.

- As a household with a lot of iOS devices (big family), the iCloud integration was a bonus too.

Those are just 3 of the main reasons why I like Lion. ML looks like it'll take whatever issues I had with Lion and obliterate them completely. Can't wait to get it!!

And if you don't have a magic trackpad, get one! Some of you may really be missing out.
 
Installed fine straight from SL on my Mid '09 MBP 2GB. Nice and smooth thats for sure :)

Fans are running fast and the machine is a little hot, but I'm hoping that's because Spotlight is indexing and will be normal once it's done :eek:
 
Sounds like what I've been saying all along. Some new features, some more appealing than others, but not a ton of them, and some major improvements in performance.

Honestly, I'm way more interested in "snappy" than new features, it's just too bad Lion was a step backwards in that department.
 
drorpheus said:
Yeah sure, quit devoting all the companies resources to cell phones. Stop being a mobile device mfg. and start releasing hardware and software that actually warrants the upgrade, not .2 incremental bumps. One of the richest companies in the world and act like they have $120 to thier name for R&D.
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If you were Apple, where would you spend your money based on this:

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Matti said:
Looks like Im still gonna stay with my ancient 10.6 install.

Lion didn't add anything I wanted. Read the Gizmodo review and it looks like the iOSification continues. Ill update once they add something relevant for proper desktop computer use on my iMac
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On the contrary, Lion/Mountain Lion adds a hell of a lot in terms of desktop management -- IF you use a trackpad.

Until Lion I had hardly ever had a use for Spaces, but with the multi-touch gestures and Mission Control, I simply cannot go back to how I used to manage all the dozens of floating windows from dozens of open apps and all -- without multi-touch and mission control.

When I need to get from point A to point B, I instinctively do a gesture and I'm there in a second. Maybe less.

It's so brisk my students wonder how I manage to get around so quickly on my mac. For me it's become common practice -- but I find that when I go to my wife's white macbook without multi-touch I literally stumble around the open windows and have to constantly search out and peck at the navigation keys on the keyboard. With multi-touch and mission control you don't take your eyes off what you're doing on the screen. Everything is really at the command of your fingertips.

But, again, if you don't use a multi-touch trackpad, then yes, you will miss out on one of the most important things about Lion/ML.

But that's just ONE of the most important things.
 
Piggie said:
Will Apple ever change the stupid idea of the menu bar at the top of the screen all the time?

It's obvious why it was designed this way.

Years ago screen real estate was at a premium, every pixel/scan line counted and to have menus on every window would of meant less room for windows on screen, so let's just have the one menu. So on our small, low res screens it will work better.

And that is a fair and good way of thinking.

Today with say 1200 horizontal lines, lets say 1920x1200, this idea falls away and we now find that we may have a small program at the bottom of the screen, and have to move al the way up to the top of our LARGE screen to access the menus.

That's not a productive way to do anything, You would wish the menu's to be close to the program, to minimise pointer movement.

Do you think they are just unable to make this change for no other reason that "that's how it's always been" thinking?
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I wish that it at least be able to be "auto-hide". However, I think full-screen apps do that. So I think that with full-screen apps, and multiple desktops, a compromise is struck with those that want it to be persistent.
 
Oh great, another 4GBs to download. This will take 8 hours at full speed on my connection. Should I wait months for (maybe) a flash drive to be released?

I want DVD distribution back. My Mac Pro and MBP both have optical drives, and my computers are both newer and faster than many of the computers anyone I know has. I'm sorry, but most of the world's internet connection isn't fast enough to leisurely download 4GBs in a feasible amount of time.

Maybe I'm being impatient.
 
theanimaster said:
On the contrary, Lion/Mountain Lion adds a hell of a lot in terms of desktop management -- IF you use a trackpad.

Until Lion I had hardly ever had a use for Spaces, but with the multi-touch gestures and Mission Control, I simply cannot go back to how I used to manage all the dozens of floating windows from dozens of open apps and all -- without multi-touch and mission control.

When I need to get from point A to point B, I instinctively do a gesture and I'm there in a second. Maybe less.

It's so brisk my students wonder how I manage to get around so quickly on my mac. For me it's become common practice -- but I find that when I go to my wife's white macbook without multi-touch I literally stumble around the open windows and have to constantly search out and peck at the navigation keys on the keyboard. With multi-touch and mission control you don't take your eyes off what you're doing on the screen. Everything is really at the command of your fingertips.

But, again, if you don't use a multi-touch trackpad, then yes, you will miss out on one of the most important things about Lion/ML.

But that's just ONE of the most important things.
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Great minds...
 
Snow Leopard was the best to date.

Lion took away several key features & forced you to do things their way (Apple getting arrogant & becoming more like Microsoft).

I.E. Save As, removal of expose, iOS stupidification, Launchpad, etc.

Of course, there are many of you Apple-fan-girls who believe that Apple can do no wrong, but it is slowly turning into the new Microsoft & I'm starting to be more interested in what Microsoft has to offer these days. I haven't been interested in what Microsoft has to offer since Windows 95, and Windows 8 is really interesting (I've been using Apple products since the 80s). Competition is always a good thing. Freedom is always a good thing.

The 90s was Windows.
The 2000s was OS X.
What will this decade bring?

"You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
 
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