RTX 2080Ti and 2070 MaxQ Geekbench

[Thysanoptera]

Holy sh...t. If you're planning to buy a laptop wait for CES. Asus Zepherus M GM501GS and Lenovo HE91 (whatever this is). If they can fit this 2080Ti in that 15 inch Asus it has probably power requirements of current mobile 1070. So the 2070 MaxQ could be as low as current 1050Ti, or 1060 MaxQ, similar to Vega 20 and 3 times as fast.

https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/compute/3312774
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/compute/3329703

 

[jrichards1408]

Holy sh...t. If you're planning to buy a laptop wait for CES. Asus Zepherus M GM501GS and Lenovo HE91 (whatever this is). If they can fit this 2080Ti in that 15 inch Asus it has probably power requirements of current mobile 1070. So the 2070 MaxQ could be as low as current 1050Ti, or 1060 MaxQ, similar to Vega 20 and 3 times as fast.

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https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/compute/3312774
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/compute/3329703

O yes!

 

[Queen6]

ASUS ROG + i9 + RTX 2080 re-role it as a workstation, this GL703GS is already a monster tears through data without a hint of throttling. Meanwhile at Apple Jony's working hard on a snazzy travel bag for the iMac Pro

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[doublepost=1544137019][/doublepost]Forget Geekbench it's a useless benchmark for braggers. I want to see systems under load past a few seconds to produce some magical number;

i7/i9 and RTX is going to be a monster, just need the OEM's to get power & cooling right. Have few doubts with ROG as they are all out on performance...

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[Thysanoptera]

ASUS ROG + i9 + RTX 2080 re-role it as a workstation, this GL703GS is already a monster tears through data without a hint of throttling. Meanwhile at Apple Jony's working hard on a snazzy travel bag for the iMac Pro

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And that's not even a 17 inch, just a slim 15 inch laptop with 287k OpenCL score. 50% faster than Vega Pro 64 in iMac Pro. Bag won't help.

 

[jrichards1408]

Op when I googled that Asus laptop it showed me the old 1070 version?

ASUS ROG + i9 + RTX 2080 re-role it as a workstation, this GL703GS is already a monster tears through data without a hint of throttling. Meanwhile at Apple Jony's working hard on a snazzy travel bag for the iMac Pro

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[doublepost=1544137019][/doublepost]Forget Geekbench it's a useless benchmark for braggers. I want to see systems under load past a few seconds to produce some magical number;View attachment 809014 i7/i9 and RTX is going to be a monster, just need the OEM's to get power & cooling right. Have few doubts with ROG as they are all out on performance...

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[Queen6]

Op when I googled that Asus laptop it showed me the old 1070 version?

Yes GTX 1070, need to wait on the next Gen in 2019. What I mean is the notebook already offers near desktop performance and can only get better. Once the RTX versions are released the G & GL series will be on another level again.

My current GL730GS is 8750H, 32gb @ 2666, GTX 1070, NVME & SSHD and by far the fastest notebook I have ever owned. I've only seen high tier portable workstations outperform the GL703GS and they can range up to $15K. 17.3" at sub 3Kg if Asus offers with RTX in 2019 instant buy, although I'm considering the G series with i9, problem being the bulk & weight of the G series as the notebook is for work purpose and I only work internationally, the GL being a lot more portable.

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[Thysanoptera]

Yeah,

Op when I googled that Asus laptop it showed me the old 1070 version?

It is not released yet, they wait for CES. Asus usually maintains naming if the chassis is the same, looks like they may just replace 1070 with 2080ti.

 

[Queen6]

Yeah,

It is not released yet, they wait for CES. Asus usually maintains naming if the chassis is the same, looks like they may just replace 1070 with 2080ti.

It will be a monster, given my experience with the current GL703GS, it crushes everything I throw at it, never blinks, never throttles, cooling that works & adequate power

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And that's not even a 17 inch, just a slim 15 inch laptop with 287k OpenCL score. 50% faster than Vega Pro 64 in iMac Pro. Bag won't help.

TBH Apple is simply light years behind...

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[SDColorado]

It will be a monster, given my experience with the current GL703GS, it crushes everything I throw at it, never blinks, never throttles, cooling that works & adequate power

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TBH Apple is simply light years behind...

Q-6

But it’s so thin it’s on the cutting edge hahaha

 

[Queen6]

But it’s so thin it’s on the cutting edge hahaha

and crippled for heavy use, where time matters and latté doesn't RTX in notebooks with hex core i7/i9 will be monsters. Meanwhile the MBP will be stuck with underperforming CPU's and a dGPU that only matches a GTX1050ti all under a 100W power limit, but they do look awfully pretty

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[SDColorado]

and crippled for heavy use, where time matters and latté doesn't RTX in notebooks with hex core i7/i9 will be monsters. Meanwhile the MBP will be stuck with underperforming CPU's and a dGPU that only matches a GTX1050 all under a 100W power limit, but they do look awfully pretty

Q-6

They do. Stopped into Starbucks last night for a mid-way warmup for my wife and me while walking our dogs. Starbucks was littered with shiny skinny Macs

Apple knows its target market.

 

[Queen6]

Mostly see the old Airs & Pro's rarely see the new MBP. What I don't like is Apple is mostly selling an image now and many overspend and incur debt as a direct result. In reality as you grow up you rapidly realise that no one remotely cares what computer you use only the results of your efforts...

Tim Cook has been explicitly clear on where the future of Apple's computing lies. Current state of the MAC should not be a surprise to anyone who follows Apple, expecting thinner, prettier Mac's at higher price points with ever reduced usability, professional workhorses absolutely not...

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[Thysanoptera]

I lost count how many times I was trying to switch to Macs. My whole family is equipped with my old Apple products, even my in-laws living on a farm in Eastern Europe have a pair of decked out MacBook Pros, to Skype with us. I don't know what I was thinking when I bought the 18' MBP, but this endeavor is coming to an end and this time I swear I won't try again. I'll glue my Powerbook G4 to the wall above the monitor to remind me next time I'll think Apple got it right. Since I've run out of family members to give the 18' to, it will end up as a kitchen computer, storing family photos - 2TB should be enough for it and my wife won't complain that she can't find them on our home server, even though she has links to them on her laptop, tablet and living room TV. Plus the screen is nice, that should be the right tool for the job. Or I'll let my 4 year old play with it and see how fast is he going to kill this keyboard. I like MacOS, but this is just not worth it, too many compromises.

Vega Pro 20 is a bust, I was holding on until finally somebody posted the power figures. It is a bloody 1050ti, with the same TDP, just two years late. I knew Nvidia had something ready in their closets in case AMD will catch up, but those figures - wow. I'll buy it as soon as it comes out, hope Lenovo delayed i9 in X1X to improve cooling and pair it with this. The discussions about 50W chip being cooler than 35W with the same heatsink also crack me up. AMD says the 7nm Navi will be 20% more power efficient than Vega, so - 2.5 times slower than new Nvidia instead of 3x. Awesome. Apple abandoned the pro market and have no intentions to come back. "What's a computer?"

 

[jrichards1408]

Will it weigh same as a macbook pro and be very silent when not doing heavy tasks?

It will be a monster, given my experience with the current GL703GS, it crushes everything I throw at it, never blinks, never throttles, cooling that works & adequate power

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TBH Apple is simply light years behind...

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[hajime]

So unless there is a noisy fan issue, there will be no need for eGPU if I get a laptop with one of these cards? How is the thermal of these RTX cards? Better than 1050 on the X1E? The Thinkpad I ordered on BF has been delayed once again. This time they shipped it to the wrong country despite what Lenovo told me. Crazy! Perhaps I just return it upon arrival and wait for the release in January.

 

[Thysanoptera]

So unless there is a noisy fan issue, there will be no need for eGPU if I get a laptop with one of these cards? How is the thermal of these RTX cards? Better than 1050 on the X1E? The Thinkpad I ordered on BF has been delayed once again. This time they shipped it to the wrong country despite what Lenovo told me. Crazy! Perhaps I just return it upon arrival and wait for the release in January.

I would return and wait, but there will be no massive efficiency improvements like when going from Maxwell to Pascal, that Geekbench for some reason shows double numbers for RTX vs current gen, but this doesn't translate to other benchmarks, so my initial enthusiast has dropped considerably. No idea about TDP, but I don't think they will pull AMD/Apple and just tell OEM to use GPU with 40% higher TDP in the same chassis. I'm waiting until the end of January to buy, some 3dmark leaked, Performance bench 19k on mobile 2060. There is a ton of hidden, Lenovo results in 3dmark database from a week ago with 8750hk in 19k range, Lenovo doesn't have anything right now higher than 1050Ti and they scrapped 1060 equipped legion. Give me current 1070 performance in 1050ti chassis and I'll take it, thank you very much. We'll see, it will be better than what Nvidia has now, by how much exactly - no idea. 4 weeks left to announcements.

Btw: here is mobile 2060 geekbench, 211k: https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/compute/3356188

 

[hajime]

I would return and wait, but there will be no massive efficiency improvements like when going from Maxwell to Pascal, that Geekbench for some reason shows double numbers for RTX vs current gen, but this doesn't translate to other benchmarks, so my initial enthusiast has dropped considerably. No idea about TDP, but I don't think they will pull AMD/Apple and just tell OEM to use GPU with 40% higher TDP in the same chassis. I'm waiting until the end of January to buy, some 3dmark leaked, Performance bench 19k on mobile 2060. There is a ton of hidden, Lenovo results in 3dmark database from a week ago with 8750hk in 19k range, Lenovo doesn't have anything right now higher than 1050Ti and they scrapped 1060 equipped legion. Give me current 1070 performance in 1050ti chassis and I'll take it, thank you very much. We'll see, it will be better than what Nvidia has now, by how much exactly - no idea. 4 weeks left to announcements.

Btw: here is mobile 2060 geekbench, 211k: https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/compute/3356188

16GB version of SB2 is also out of stock. Perhaps I just open the box and see how the silver version is like, try it for about 2 weeks to see how the noise is like for 4-core laptop without GPU. Then, return it?

 

[hajime]

There is a saying that eGPU performs at 80% of the capacity if the same card were put in a desktop case. How about having 20x0 as a GPU in a laptop compared with using the same 20x0 chip in eGPU? Which is faster and by about how much?

Since I am going to return the X1Y3 (need to return before CES 2019 since Lenovo started the clock from Dec 6), I wonder if I should also keep the eGPU enclosure (to be arrived on tomorrow) and buy a 2070/2080 for testing. Perhaps I don't open the eGPU box and return it to the store and also keep the purchase of a GPU on hold.

 

[Thysanoptera]

There is a saying that eGPU performs at 80% of the capacity if the same card were put in a desktop case. How about having 20x0 as a GPU in a laptop compared with using the same 20x0 chip in eGPU? Which is faster and by about how much?

There is a drop, 15-20%, depending on card, but I'd still use eGPU. For me, its most important advantage is that it frees your laptop GPU so CPU has all the thermal room possible. The he desktop equivalents are faster, so even factoring the TB3 drop it still will be faster than on board solution or at least equal. And you can upgrade the eGPU later, it's worth keeping regardless of how powerful internal GPU you will end up getting..

 

[c0ppo]

@hajime
Keep in mind that eGPU is rather noisy. And you can't move it away, since purchasing a longer tb3 cable won't help the performance.

 

[jrichards1408]

There is a drop, 15-20%, depending on card, but I'd still use eGPU. For me, its most important advantage is that it frees your laptop GPU so CPU has all the thermal room possible. The he desktop equivalents are faster, so even factoring the TB3 drop it still will be faster than on board solution or at least equal. And you can upgrade the eGPU later, it's worth keeping regardless of how powerful internal GPU you will end up getting..

Or just use a desktop

 

[Thysanoptera]

Or just use a desktop

It's not the same, I can't take a desktop with me across the country, but I can live without a 300W GPU in a hotel room, while at home I don't have to sync between two machines, usually forgetting where did I put some stuff. I'm a big fan of eGPU and by all accounts will not a buy another desktop in the future, except maybe to upgrade my simulator rig.

 

[max.ine]

I wonder if we’ll see a new MX250 chip or whatever they call the MX150 successor along with this.

 

[jrichards1408]

It's not the same, I can't take a desktop with me across the country, but I can live without a 300W GPU in a hotel room, while at home I don't have to sync between two machines, usually forgetting where did I put some stuff. I'm a big fan of eGPU and by all accounts will not a buy another desktop in the future, except maybe to upgrade my simulator rig.

But u can carry a laptop mate. Get both desktop and laptop

 

[Thysanoptera]

But u can carry a laptop mate. Get both desktop and laptop

Oh, I have already, multiple. But because I travel 50% of the time keeping this all in sync is annoying to say the least.