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Here's my take on the redesign.

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Nice.
 
iTunes is such bloatware. They need to give us an application 'like' itunes JUST for playing back music without all the other crap, not everyone has a need for support for ipod, iphone, ipad, itms, movies, ping, tv shows or any of the other CRAP thats making itunes slow, a ram and resource hog.

Apple should also rename it to iMedia if it intends to keep stuffing useless garbage into what was originally intended to be a music player.

Where's the bloat, again? Safari and WebProcess are FAR worse in terms of bloat, ram hogging, and resource hogging. So if you have iTunes problems in the future, check to see if Safari is taking over your computer first. Getting off my soapbox now.

re the itunes logo with the musical note and blue circle
first reminded me of the beginning of classic Looney Tunes cartoons
Oh - I get it iTunes ...Looney Tunes

Ooh, nice one! I didn't notice that until you pointed that out!

iTunes is already something of a bloated mess. They really need a central iCloud app that handles all syncing, including iOS devices. Then pare down iTunes and let it focus on what made it great in the first place: organizing music. I'd also break out video playback into a separate app. It already is on iPads, which makes it even more confusing for people, having different places to find the same stuff on different devices....and don't forget iPhoto (for some odd reason) imports videos too. It's a mess. Every type of media or data should have its own app, and its own store (all linked to your Apple ID, of course).

iCloud - oversees syncing everything, managing devices, lets you select in one interface what media you want to sync, and to where.
  • App Store - apps, and maybe include managing home screen icons here.
  • iTunes - music, and only music (OK, audio, including podcasts), includes iTunes Store for audio content.
  • Video - videos (for playback), includes video store for video content.
  • iPhoto - photos
  • iBook - books, includes iBooks Store
  • Others - handle their own data: iCal, Address Book

NO. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. I don't WANT to have to go to this app for this function, and another app for another function. What I like about iTunes currently is its all-encompassing function, the "Walmart of apps", if you will. If I wish to sync my iPhone, I only need to go to ONE place, not 150 different places depending upon what I want to sync to my iPhone or iPad.

Yes, it's got its problems, but if iTunes 11 is the LONG-awaited rewrite of iTunes with a plugin architecture that makes everything work seamlessly WITHOUT having to split up iTunes into separate apps, then everyone will be happy and we'll all go in 6 months, "Why'd we want iTunes to be in separate apps, again?" Mark my words.

BJ
 
Now it doesn't make sense to split one app into 100 apps and it will not remove bloat, because after iTunes went 64 bit cocoa there isn't any.

Bloat has nothing to do with the data you keep in an app (and has nothing to do with 32 vs. 64 bit), it's cramming too many features into one app. Which is exactly what iTunes is. Now I can see possibly having one centralized "Store" app, but I think all the media is better left being handled by specialized, separate apps that aren't trying to do it all.
 
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Bloat has nothing to do with the data you keep in an app, it's cramming too many features into one app. Which is exactly what iTunes is. Now I can see possibly having one centralized "Store" app, but I think all the media is better left being handled by specialized, separate apps that aren't trying to do it all.

Because having multiple apps open is always more efficient than having one app open? :rolleyes:
 
lol I just realised... when they removed the CD from the iTunes Logo... maybe it was Apple saying "Incoming!" and now they are taking it away from their machines too.
 
If I wish to sync my iPhone, I only need to go to ONE place, not 150 different places depending upon what I want to sync to my iPhone or iPad.

Which is why I suggested the iCloud app that would handle managing all your devices, and syncing them (locally and via iCloud), on behalf of the apps that manage their own media type. :rolleyes:

Because having multiple apps open is always more efficient than having one app open? :rolleyes:

I'd much rather choose the apps I want open instead of one monolithic resource-sucking pig that tries to shoehorn different things into the same interface, yes. At the same time, I'm sugggesting Apple consolodate the handling of each media type into one and only one app. Right now video can be handled by iTunes, iPhoto, and (on the iPad only) Video. That's confusing and inefficient.
 
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Bloat has nothing to do with the data you keep in an app, it's cramming too many features into one app. Which is exactly what iTunes is.

'too many features' :eek: There is nothing wrong with current way things are done and tens of millions of people are used to it and i doubt it will change much in the nearest future.

Right now i have iTunes open and i'm listening music, so by your way if i want to watch a film and sync my iPhone i have to open 2 apps. Where is efficiency in that? not to mention that Apple would have to support not one, but what? 5? 6? apps. Not going to happen.
 
YES YES YES YES YES! Besides Safari (and of course Finder), iTunes is probably of my most used programs. So happy it's getting a new look, it's long overdue.

Hopefully I'll get a new iMac in time for this lol. :rolleyes:
 
I'd much rather choose the apps I want open instead of one monolithic resource-sucking pig that tries to shoehorn different things into the same interface, yes. At the same time, I'm sugggesting Apple consolodate the handling of each media type into one and only one app. Right now video can be handled by iTunes, iPhoto, and (on the iPad only) Video. That's confusing and inefficient.

How would multiple apps be more efficient? Each one would require duplicating a majority of the functionality from the others.

And then you have issues with multiple content types playing at the same time. Multiple processes needing access to the same file.

And where do you put music videos? Ringtones? Podcasts that contain audio and video content?

The issues go on and on as you think about the details.
 
Here's my prediction:

[1] Apple will build a elegant solution (akin to the Music app on iPad)
[2] It will be missing features, as it is a rebuild**
[3] People will moan for months and months to anyone who will listen about missing features
[4] In a years time we will have a far better iTunes than we had before

** See iMovie 08, Quicktime X, Final Cut X etc. etc. etc.

iTunes 1 was the best version of iTunes. It was clear in its purpose and goal.

At the risk of attracting fanboy heat, Zune software has been kicking iTune's ass in UI and application smoothness. It's pretty weird to see that MS has been more Apple-like than Apple themselves, in this regard.

Good point.

Zune PC software is excellent. And almost completely unlike the button heavy, cluttered other PC applications Microsoft produces.

Windows Phone 7 is also excellent (UI). And again almost completely unlike the button heavy, cluttered other PC applications Microsoft produces.
 
Because having multiple apps open is always more efficient than having one app open? :rolleyes:

Multiple apps open is the current situation, whether we need or want it or not. If you absolutely must have access to all of iTunes' current myriad features, then of course the status quo is perfect for you. For the rest of us who don't buy from iTunes, we do not need that bloat within slowing down the application and hogging focus while it tries to contact the mothership.

If they could make iTunes more modular so that we could permanently disable those parts we don't care for, then I wouldn't care that the application was so monolithic.
 
For the rest of us who don't buy from iTunes, we do not need that bloat within slowing down the application and hogging focus while it tries to contact the mothership.

What bloat? Slowing how exactly? I only hear buzzwords now that's all. If you do not need Store then you do not use it.
 
the new design should be that Apple decides to globally remove itunes on all computers. The entire program is just one big slow dinosaur begging to die. They could start over though, make is a tiny and simple program, like spotify, or make it icloud only. itunes is pretty much the last and only huge embarrassment that Apple still continues to update.
 
I'd like be able to remove the iTunes Store from the column on the left-hand side. I just want my playlists on the left, nothing else.
 
Sounds awesome. Strip out the crap, keep the good stuff, and make it more clean. I hope this is true. I like the idea of the iTunes store not feeling like a browser page inside an application as well. That always bothered me.
 
Unfortunately, I don't think that's what they meant by "slick"...

Oh and BTW, please can we drop the Ping thing now? ;)

I like Ping. My wife and I have ours set up where we are the only people "following" each other. You can enable that in the settings. Then when I'm listening to a song and I want to share it with her, it is drop dead simple. She can immediately check out the song and get into the same mood I am. ;-) It's also pretty good for following my favorite artists as well as seeing what concerts are in town.
 
I'm sure there will be a 64-bit version of iTunes for Windows. There's a 64-bit version of iTunes for Windows now.

http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1427

That is merely a 64-bit installer, the 32-bit installer is not compatible with 64-bit Windows. The client is still 32-bit.


Perhaps PC is the problem...

Or Apple's inability to write software for Windows, but Safari for Windows is great, opens in about 2 seconds for me, feels light and dare I say..."snappy"?
 
If they are redisigning iTunes 11, was it worth it to move iTunes 10.4 to 64 bit?
 
Perhaps PC is the problem...

If other cross platform package creators can create similar experiences on similar performing platforms, whether windows or OSX, yet apple does not, it doesnt give many options to whinge about the windows computer.
 
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