If the image is correct, the pill shape on the 14 Pro protrudes down into the screen quite a bit more. Either way, I'm not going to sweat any of this too much.
exactly!!Remember when the rumours reckoned Apple was gonna shrink the FaceID components & hide 'em in the bezel.
Or they would be the ones to perfect transparent OLED pixels to hide it under the screen.
Last year they moved the ear speaker to the bezel which narrowed the notch, but inexplicably made it deeper too.
Now they've narrowed things yet again, but they've kept them in the same spot and so we're left with...
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ooh they're gonna software dead pixel the gap between the pill & hole. Why the gap at all? Why couldn't they join the 2, push it to the top and have the narrowest, shallowest, least intrusive notch ever. No matter what the fanbois say to fool themselves this is NOT improvement. It looks janky, poorly thought out & the product of a bad design. Since Jonny Ive left who is the design leader 'cause this (along with a lot at Apple) looks like the product of a directionless committee.
So it's only one hard pill to swallow instead of two?![]()
This would look the best. Just replace the ugly notch/faceid with touchid (either under-screen (like s22) or integrated into the lock button (like iPad mini/air)) and the "notch issue" will be gone.
People complaining about the Dash-Dot asymmetry will flip out over that.This would look the best. Just replace the ugly notch/faceid with touchid (either under-screen (like s22) or integrated into the lock button (like iPad mini/air)) and the "notch issue" will be gone.
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"pile + hole" isn't symmetric either, but we are gonna get it though.People complaining about the Dash-Dot asymmetry will flip out over that.
I like the dash dot cutouts so I hope we get that instead of a faux long-dash."pile + hole" isn't symmetric either, but we are gonna get it though.
But we want Face ID. We don’t want a regression back to Touch ID!This would look the best. Just replace the ugly notch/faceid with touchid (either under-screen (like s22) or integrated into the lock button (like iPad mini/air)) and the "notch issue" will be gone.
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I agree about getting rid of faceid and going with touchid, but the camera should be in the top middle. (or preferably in the bezel!)This would look the best. Just replace the ugly notch/faceid with touchid (either under-screen (like s22) or integrated into the lock button (like iPad mini/air)) and the "notch issue" will be gone.
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"we" is not proper, you do, I don't.But we want Face ID. We don’t want a regression back to Touch ID!
Yet has anyone here been keeping up with how security on face unlock on android has?Eh no, the most secure is the best, FaceID might not be perfect, but the competition equivalent is laughable. As for speed, it’s fast enough for me.
Good point! Though hopefully if that rumored larger sensor is an improvement to my photos and video I can use the device even more for professional projects, and thus rent it to those jobs. I paid off my 11Pro this way in less than the 12-month 0% window. 🤘You haven’t seen the price tag yet! 😉
Yes, Apple does offer some options that trade a reduced security for greater convenience. Unlock with Watch is one. Unlock with mask is another. Users are free to choose the right blend of security and convenience for them.Yet has anyone here been keeping up with how security on face unlock on android has?
- don't forget only 1 android phone was released without a secondary Fingerprint ID and pattern unlock (only password/pin was available) and that was an Pixel model, cannot recall.
By 'most secure' you need to consider the following on iOS (as a long time user myself, still currently):
Apple Watch will automatically unlock the iPhone even with FaceID enabled or auto lock set to 30 seconds (the lowest). Just swipe up when wearing the Apple Watch that is connected within Bluetooth range and you're in!
^ if you're single and dating - be VERY wary of psycho dates or just super untrusting nosey dates doing this in your sleep!!!
You do NOT have to be awake/concious to unlock an iPhone wtih FaceID enabled. Just peel back the sleeping owners eyes and if only 1 eye looks in the selfie camera-array's location - boom you're in. This is with FaceID + awareness enabled.
Best Security is always limited in exactly 'how' it's implemented between all types of access.
example macOS could have THE best desktop security - it does - yet if the default admin password is super easily guessable - all that security means nothing at that point.
It would also mean you have to sleep with your watch on, and be sleeping with your date, and there is always the option of locking your phone via your watch. I have tried this with my friend. Apple Watch unlock really only works when the phone is very close to the watch (like you have to be literally holding the phone in your hand).^ if you're single and dating - be VERY wary of psycho dates or just super untrusting nosey dates doing this in your sleep!!!
Well considering the Face ID tech and the high quality camera, there's not much else they could do at this time. Under the screen cameras pale in comparison.I don’t know about this still feels like a notch
They can simply replace notch/faceid with under-screen ultrasonic touchid.Well considering the Face ID tech and the high quality camera, there's not much else they could do at this time. Under the screen cameras pale in comparison.
Power button touchid actually works pretty well an you don't need to get fancy.They can simply replace notch/faceid with under-screen ultrasonic touchid.
I really doubt Apple is going to get rid of Face ID. If they added Touch ID back, it'd be as another option.They can simply replace notch/faceid with under-screen ultrasonic touchid.
"simply" 😄They can simply replace notch/faceid with under-screen ultrasonic touchid.
********. Modern ultrasonic fingerprint sensors (like in s22) work great."simply" 😄
So far the under screen stuff doesn't work as well.
And you would still need a place for the camera.
The underscreen cameras don't work well either.
Overall, the notch and the capsule are compromises where the downsides are minor and the upsides greater.
Locking your phone via your watch is only useful in the above scenario IF you're AWAKE to respond to the unlock. So you haven't fully tried this properly - not in a deep/REM sleep stage.It would also mean you have to sleep with your watch on, and be sleeping with your date, and there is always the option of locking your phone via your watch. I have tried this with my friend. Apple Watch unlock really only works when the phone is very close to the watch (like you have to be literally holding the phone in your hand).
It's no different from using an unconscious person's finger to unlock a phone protected by a fingerprint scanner (be it iOS or android). These devices are generally secure enough for normal everyday usage. Life is not a James Bond or mission impossible movie, after all.