Rumor: New 14-Inch and 16-Inch MacBook Pros Delayed Until Next Year

[code-m]

The chips might not but WiFi 6E is a game changer for crowded WiFi environments. The HDMI port is also still crippled and unable to output 120Hz (though I suspect we won't see this change till Thunderbolt 5)

Even still a 10-15% performance improvement is nothing to sneeze at.

To add and reiterate your list, the MBP can still upgrade/update:

WiFi 6E
BT 5.3
4K or higher display so native 4K content is 1:1
HDMI 2.1 120Hz external display support
600 nits or higher standard brightness
Notch removed and replaced with Dynamic Island
ExpressCard speed
18 hrs or longer wireless web battery life with M2 Pro/Max
Larger than 8TB of internal SSD storage
Default RAM options 24/48/72 GB
CenterStage UW camera
OLED evo brightness


I suspect FaceID may not make it due to distance and possibly angle.

 

[fredn]

The reason is that with the year-newer M2 on the street for months now, sales of M1 (probably except for the still-new Studios) are likely dramatically shrinking. This is tech and many high-end MBP buyers about due to upgrade (like me) will wait for the latest update before upgrading to a box to use for the next 3-6 years.

Because sales are dying already. A lot of people are like me who are sitting on buying a new Mac until the M2 14/16 pros come out. T As soon as they are released I plan on buying a 14in m2 pro with some upgrades.

Ya... That may be a valid reason for you personally, but please remember that you are a consumer buying just one machine.

Think about businesses on the other hand. I have personally purchased many, many of these machines for employees. The only question a business asks is: Does the machine have the spec to do the stuff the employee needs them to do? Yes? Buy 50 of 'em. That's it. Literally do not care about whether a new machine is coming around the corner. Most computers are actually purchased by companies, not individuals.

 

[theorist9]

Ya... That may be a valid reason for you personally, but please remember that you are a consumer buying just one machine.

Think about businesses on the other hand. I have personally purchased many, many of these machines for employees. The only question a business asks is: Does the machine have the spec to do the stuff the employee needs them to do? Yes? Buy 50 of 'em. That's it. Literally do not care about whether a new machine is coming around the corner. Most computers are actually purchased by companies, not individuals.

Well, you're not talking about businesses generally here, you're talking about larger businesses, i.e., businesses where the buying decisions are done by an IT dept. (as contrasted with, say, a photographer who works on their own, or a video production company with just a few employees). And what you say may be true for PC's, but you really know that most Macs are purchased by larger businesses, as opposed to small businesses + individuals?

I'm skeptical. With a few notable exceptions (e.g., GE, IBM, Capitol One, and of course Apple), I suspect most institutions and larger businesses are pretty much Windows shops. Take my university, for instance. A lot of the individual scientists purchase Macs for themselves and their labs. But the school as a whole (including the entire admininistrative and support staff) is pretty much Windows-only. And many of their own custom apps are Windows-only.

So while most PCs may be purchased by IT depts. rather than indivduals, I'm skeptical of whether that's the case for Macs.

 

[EugW]

Well, you're not talking about businesses generally here, you're talking about larger businesses (as contrasted with, say, a photographer who works on their own, or a video production company with just a few employees). And what you say may be true for PC's, but you really know that most Macs are purchased by larger businesses, as opposed to small businesses + individuals?

I'm skeptical. With a few notable exceptions (e.g., Google, IBM, and of course Apple), I suspect most institutions and larger businesses are pretty much Windows shops. Take my university, for instance. A lot of the individual scientists purchase Macs for themselves and their labs. But the school as a whole (including the entire admininistrative and support staff) is pretty much Windows-only. And many of their own custom apps are Windows-only.

The design departments of a few of the multibillion dollar banks here buy Macs for all the designers and all the developers. That’s just anecdotal of course but it seems Macs are quite popular in large business too. OTOH, all the computers in the actual banks are Windows.

 

[fredn]

Well, you're not talking about businesses generally here, you're talking about larger businesses, i.e., businesses where the buying decisions are done by an IT dept. (as contrasted with, say, a photographer who works on their own, or a video production company with just a few employees). And what you say may be true for PC's, but you really know that most Macs are purchased by larger businesses, as opposed to small businesses + individuals?

I'm skeptical. With a few notable exceptions (e.g., GE, IBM, Capitol One, and of course Apple), I suspect most institutions and larger businesses are pretty much Windows shops. Take my university, for instance. A lot of the individual scientists purchase Macs for themselves and their labs. But the school as a whole (including the entire admininistrative and support staff) is pretty much Windows-only. And many of their own custom apps are Windows-only.

So while most PCs may be purchased by IT depts. rather than indivduals, I'm skeptical of whether that's the case for Macs.

It doesn't matter; it's still true that most computers of any kind, Mac or PC, are bought by companies. And of course individual sole proprietors will buy their own machines, but even a 5+ person company is already going to have centralized purchasing. The split among companies will be the same as for the general public; some percentage of companies will be Mac-based. As I said, I've purchased many many many MacBook Pros for employees over the last 15 years. Do they get to have a say in what machine I buy? Nope.

 

[theorist9]

It doesn't matter; it's still true that most computers of any kind, Mac or PC, are bought by companies. And of course individual sole proprietors will buy their own machines, but even a 5+ person company is already going to have centralized purchasing. The split among companies will be the same as for the general public; some percentage of companies will be Mac-based. As I said, I've purchased many many many MacBook Pros for employees over the last 15 years. Do they get to have a say in what machine I buy? Nope.

Do you have any data to back up your claim? All I'm hearing are assertions.

And your expererience doesn't generalize. For instance, when I worked in a small scientific group, my boss told me to buy what I thought was needed, because he knew I was the one best positioned to assess my requirements.

 

[EugW]

The reason is that with the year-newer M2 on the street for months now, sales of M1 (probably except for the still-new Studios) are likely dramatically shrinking. This is tech and many high-end MBP buyers about due to upgrade (like me) will wait for the latest update before upgrading to a box to use for the next 3-6 years.

I suspect even now, the M1 MacBook Air is Apple’s best seller.