Rumor: Only low-end model soldered?

Discussion in 'Mac mini' started by ZipZilla, Oct 19, 2014.

  1. ZipZilla macrumors regular

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    Guy commenting in the comments on the front page says the Apple Store assured him the RAM was user-upgradeable. He makes the good point that perhaps only the $499 model is soldered, like the low-end iMac.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. Fishrrman macrumors G3

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    Only definitive answer will come when:
    1. Someone buys one and reports,
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    2. ifixit.com does a "teardown" and posts the results.

    'Til then, "rumors" are worth nothing...
     
  3. Meister Suspended

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    The 2014 mac mini is the exact design as the 2012 one. All of them are user servicable.
     
  4. philipma1957 macrumors 603

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    I am going to best buy try to get one today.
     
  5. Meister Suspended

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    I am 99% sure its servicabel, but check again with :apple: before buying, just in case.
     
  6. deaglecat macrumors 6502

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    No... I dont think so. The ports on the back are different which implies a new logic board - not just a processor upgrade.
     
  7. Zellio macrumors 65816

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    Great, please open it up and lets us know about the epic memory fail.

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    It still would be user serviceable, unless Apple is just being Apple.
     
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    Crosscreek macrumors 68030

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    Open the bottom up at the store and take a look. Then you'll know. If the server farm guy is right from Macminicolo the RAM is not upgradeable.

    I think IFixit will have a teardown on Monday so we can see the logic board.
     
  9. Meister Suspended

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    I just looked at what he wrote. I am not as concerned about the memory, but the ssd upgrade possibility.
     
  10. hipnetic macrumors 6502a

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    Doh. I was just at the Apple store yesterday. I should have checked to see if they had any on display. Seems like the first thing to check is if the bottom still screws off easily.
     
  11. Celerondon macrumors 6502a

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    Is this claim even possible?

    Please specify the aspects of the 2014 design that you claim are shared with the 2012 version. :confused:
     
  12. Meister Suspended

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    The bottom plate and overall design seemed to be almost the same. It also makes no sense to soder ram and make harddrives unreplacable in a mac mini. But i might be wrong on this one. :apple: just seems to want to push people away from the mini. Sad :(
     
  13. Crosscreek macrumors 68030

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    Yeh, with tamperproof screws on the foot now might mean if you try to open it it will void the warranty and that is sad.
     
  14. ZipZilla thread starter macrumors regular

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    Here's the question:

    This guy is enjoying all of the hits on his blog. Where are the pictures of the bottom of the Mini? Show us the tamper-proof screws. Show us the soldered RAM. I'm starting to not believe the guy.
     
  15. Celerondon macrumors 6502a

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    Uh-Oh, at first I hoped that screw update was a joke

    Many of us were wrong Meister.

    Brian Stuki said that the bottom plate has tamper-proof screws. He is the guy who identified the soldered RAM. Brian has probably opened a fair number of minis.

    Macminicolo is not a den of trolls...

    He also had good things to say about the 2014 mini.
     
  16. fa8362 macrumors 65816

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    Only because he didn't want to piss Apple off...
     
  17. potatis macrumors 6502a

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    Hm...he now says the new Mini offers a good CPU/graphics boost. Does that mean the downgrade in CPU is made up for by the upgraded graphics?
     
  18. philipma1957 macrumors 603

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    no it means an i7 dual core cpu is faster then any older mac mini cpu. if you don't use multi core software. and the 5100 gpu is better then the 4000 gpu.

    While I like the 5100 gpu it may not do 4k tv's as well as I like.

    I also run vm so I need more then a dual core.
     
  19. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    GSX access here. I've seen the step by step take apart guide. It is NOT the same logic board...because the RAM is soldered on.
     
  20. aajeevlin macrumors 6502a

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    Looking at the price, I suppose the SSD upgrade is okay +$200 for 256GB. That's pretty much what most SSD of the same storage is priced at from Newegg. However, +$300 for the memory, that's a bit much, almost double of what it would cost.

    Besides that I suppose it's not "that bad". As long as the i5 2014 is somewhat comparable to the quad core i7 from 2012.

    What do you guys think if one was to get the base model with max RAM and fusion drive. Do you guy think that is sufficient to do computational work like Matlab, Python, etc?
     
  21. deaglecat macrumors 6502

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    "GSX access here. I've seen the step by step take apart guide. It is NOT the same logic board...because the RAM is soldered on."

    that makes sense... and is it also true that the hdd cannot be easily replaced ?
     
  22. hallux macrumors 68020

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    I also have GSX access. I'll expand upon this comment.

    Removing the bottom of the new Mini requires a suction cup, it does not twist-off like the 2012's did. I wouldn't say they're tamper-proof screws like a previous poster did, they're just blind screws with grommets in the bottom cover that "snap" over the screws.

    Unlike what another poster commented about the high-end having replaceable RAM, the high-end model DOES have soldered RAM, I saw part numbers for i5 and i7 CPU logic boards.

    Drives could be upgradeable, except they removed one of the SATA connections to replace it with the PCIE connection for the SSD, the SSD also occupies the "lower" drive location if the build diagram is to be believed. So, you only have one available SATA connection, and that would be used with the upper drive bay.

    How much more definitive information than that from Apple's service site do you need to have in order to understand the setup? (I posted VERY similar info in another topic the other day)
     
  23. deaglecat macrumors 6502

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    None. Thanks.
     
  24. hallux macrumors 68020

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    I wasn't directing that at you, I was directing it at the people that need to create 40 topics (yes, I'm exaggerating) on the user-upgradeability of the new Mini when the answers are already in the forum.
     

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