Rumors Persist About Apple Selling iPhone 12 Models Without a Charger or EarPods in the Box

[sdf]

Salesperson: “I’m sorry. You’re $1500 phone doesn’t come with a charger, but you can purchase one for 30 bucks.”

Customer: “I’ll keep looking.”

You haven't actually watched these interactions, have you?

Salesperson: "Okay, yes, we have that one in stock. Now do you need a charger?"
Customer: "Yes."
Salesperson: "Now do you want a case to protect it from scratches? We've got a nice clear one here…"
Customer: "Yes."

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

You haven't actually watched these interactions, have you?

Salesperson: "Okay, yes, we have that one in stock. Now do you need a charger?"
Customer: "Yes."
Salesperson: "Now do you want a case to protect it from scratches? We've got a nice clear one here…"
Customer: "Yes."

I think it’s more like the customer turns down every optional extra as an almost automated response. Consumers have become accustomed to being offered tripe by sales people over the years, many are immune to it.

 

[compwiz1202]

Well there are degrees of hypocrisy. Does someone always have to buy refurbished instead of new if they support reducing e-waste? You tell me 🙂

I’m sure someone can be in favor of reducing e-waste by thousands of tons while also being ok with buying a new phone for themselves and passing on their old one. Or trading it in. Throwing their old phone in the trash would be rather hypocritical though lol.

I don’t think my 6s is worth anything as a trade in. I guess it’s still e-waste if it sits in my drawer, I’m sure I can give it away though. It’s still fast and a year after a battery replacement still going strong.

Exactly, we aren't just heaving the old phone in the trash. Someone will buy it refurb. And even if it is older and on death's door, you can give it to Apple for a pittance or even zero but it gets recycled.

 

[compwiz1202]

I think it’s more like the customer turns down every optional extra as an almost automated response. Consumers have become accustomed to being offered tripe by sales people over the years, many are immune to it.

Problem with that is some places this it it:

Do you want insurance?
No
*check bill online the instant after your walk out the door and there's insurance*

And 99% probably don't even know how to check and keep paying without realizing

 

[PickUrPoison]

You know there is a third way...

Apple trying to "make" 5G tech cheaper, and still include the wall-charger.

Since everyone else may be following, Apple says jump, and we all go off the cliff like Lemmings..

Apple is working on it. They bought Intel’s 5G modem business so they won’t have to buy baseband chips from Qualcomm.

 

[PickUrPoison]

The most humorous aspect of this post is that you're literally replying to the post that calls you out for virtue signaling without any sort of explanation or justification...and you do it again.

lol do you not understand there’s a meaning to the word “signaling”?

Virtuous: someone who works at a homeless shelter helping to feed, clothes and house those who might need help.

Virtue signaling: posting “saw a homeless person today, reminded me to send off my annual donation to the Salvation Army. Let’s everyone do our part!!!!”

There’s a difference between those of us who are truly virtuous, and those of us who are merely seeking the approval of others with a low-effort, mostly-empty gesture.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Problem with that is some places this it it:

Do you want insurance?
No
*check bill online the instant after your walk out the door and there's insurance*

And 99% probably don't even know how to check and keep paying without realizing

That’s a risky business these days considering how many billions companies have had to pay back in the last 7 years for secretly/mis-selling PPI. Do mainstream retailers really run the risk of sneaking insurance in on a deal when they could be sued heavily via trading standards, consumer ombudsman etc?

I think if I noticed insurance on my receipt after declining it in store, I’d be keeping my mouth shut until the first payment and then seeking substantial compensation. Might even get the iPhone for free by the end of it as they’d have breached my statutory rights under law.

 

[rainafterthesun]

How many 12 month old iPhones are going to the dump as e-waste?

How likely are they dumped vs parts mined/iphones refurbished to be used when one needs to swap out the same phone via AppleCareplus?

 

[JagRunner]

No one does. The people here saying this are some of the most narrow-minded, confused people you will ever talk to.

These people, who buy way too many devices, and can't comprehend that other people are not just like them, have drawers full of unused chargers...no one is throwing them away, including the people who claim people throw them away.

And if any of them were even remotely concerned about the "waste" of something that is sitting in a drawer...they could give them to people who need them, or sell them on eBay considering they have value of nearly $20 a piece.

There is positively no way you could make the argument that included-chargers are 'e-waste' of any kind and be serious. Oh you can make the comment...plenty do, because they think it makes them look woke. They don't understand it, can't explain it, but they think it makes them look woke, and they don't think they need to explain or justify any "woke" view points to anyone who doesn't implicitly agree with them.

Quite a life, isn't it? Imagine how ignorant you can be if your stance is to never explain yourself to anyone who disagrees with you.

Say woke again?

 

[I7guy]

Everybody who upgrades their phone in 5 years or less is a hypocrite if they promote the notion they are concerned about the e-waste problem though I think. We are probably all guilty of contributing to this and it seems like a keeping up appearances exercise to show support over the charger/headphone reduction in all honesty.

I’ve spotted numerous posters who are vocally in favour of this move by Apple because ‘in this thread’ they are concerned for the environment. On the other hand these same people are excited to trade in their 12 month old iPhone for a shiny new iPhone 12 in many of the other tgreads. Reeks of hypocrisy on many levels I think.

I don't buy that people who upgrade prior to the 5 year mark just throw their older-newish iphones into the trash, thereby contributing to e-waste. Many here post, they sell it or ask questions on how to sell it, or go for the apple trade-in. Apple responsibly recycles the phones. It is not mutually exclusive to care about the environment and buy an appliance, either a personal electronic device or a household appliance before the end of the lifespan of said device...provided the old one gets reused, resold or recycled.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I don't buy that people who upgrade prior to the 5 year mark just throw their older-newish iphones into the trash, thereby contributing to e-waste. Many here post, they sell it or ask questions on how to sell it, or go for the apple trade-in. Apple responsibly recycles the phones. It is not mutually exclusive to care about the environment and buy an appliance, either a personal electronic device or a household appliance before the end of the lifespan of said device...provided the old one gets reused, resold or recycled.

This was discussed over numerous posts so I won’t repeat what I’ve already said/answered in response to your points that other also made.

 

[I7guy]

This was discussed over numerous posts so I won’t repeat what I’ve already said/answered in response to your points that other also made.

You're certainly entitled to that response as I am in responding to your original post.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

You're certainly entitled to that response as I am in responding to your original post.

Yeah no worries, I’ve touched on it previously though in the following posts so didn’t want to repeat myself

 

[Denzo]

Yeah my $2K AUD phone shouldn't come with a charger. People with Apple's POV must be shareholders or something.

 

[PaulpBenitti]

lol do you not understand there’s a meaning to the word “signaling”?

Virtuous: someone who works at a homeless shelter helping to feed, clothes and house those who might need help.

Virtue signaling: posting “saw a homeless person today, reminded me to send off my annual donation to the Salvation Army. Let’s everyone do our part!!!!”

There’s a difference between those of us who are truly virtuous, and those of us who are merely seeking the approval of others with a low-effort, mostly-empty gesture.

Yes you’re right, the only problem is that you think you’re being virtuous when you’re just virtue signaling.

Virtuous: solving real problems

Virtue signaling: pretending to care about fake problems that you don’t know were fake because you don’t know anything about them in the first place.

 

[PickUrPoison]

Yes you’re right, the only problem is that you think you’re being virtuous when you’re just virtue signaling.

Virtuous: solving real problems

Virtue signaling: pretending to care about fake problems that you don’t know were fake because you don’t know anything about them in the first place.

Were we talking about me? lol

I thought we were talking about Apple and how virtuous it is to eliminate thousands of tons of e-waste.

You called it “pathetic virtue signaling”, remember? I then corrected you that there was in fact no signaling. Only pure virtue, and certainly nothing to be pitied lol.

Apparently you’re now in agreement with me, as e-waste is certainly a “real problem”.

Even those in the Apple-hate club would agree with us, I think.

 

[PaulpBenitti]

Were we talking about me? lol

I thought we were talking about Apple and how virtuous it is to eliminate thousands of tons of e-waste.

You called it “pathetic virtue signaling”, remember? I then corrected you that there was in fact no signaling. Only pure virtue, and certainly nothing to be pitied lol.

Apparently you’re now in agreement with me, as e-waste is certainly a “real problem”.

Even those in the Apple-hate club would agree with us, I think.

Virtue signaling: pretending to care about fake problems that you don’t know were fake because you don’t know anything about them in the first place.