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Rumors Persist About Apple Selling iPhone 12 Models Without a Charger or EarPods in the Box
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That is way more pragmatic but from a marketing perspective it's a non-starter. Consumers would be even more enraged.
That is a very Apple thing to do but until there is more wireless charging penetration in the auto industry I think not yet. I have a 2019 truck that cost more than I'd like to admit but it didn't come with wireless charging. Maybe though, ports may be exclusive to SE models...
For less clutter I use power strips with built in USB ports at home. When I travel I use higher wattage chargers with multiple ports that are more efficient because I can charge two devices at once. I don't toss the included earbuds and chargers but I have quite the stockpile stashed in a drawer...
I get that times have changed and tech has changed. We don't need earpods and we may not need the 5w charger. But given the cost of the iphone, since when did it become ok to not include wireless headphones or a charger that suits the phone they sell (not one from 2010), you know, when the iphone was a third of the price it is today!!!
Same as the 5G argument. As mentioned the iphone rrp has gone up dramatically during the years the 4G models have been around. To act like finally putting in 5G which is already tech that is a year old, is some sort of massive drain on costs is a stretch at best. More like the 4G antennae they were using would have been an absolute joy for Apple I'm sure given the next to nothing cost in today's tech world.
Don't include the old stuff, give us the new stuff. Charge us more than any other phone manufacturer you're going to anyway.
Same as the 5G argument. As mentioned the iphone rrp has gone up dramatically during the years the 4G models have been around. To act like finally putting in 5G which is already tech that is a year old, is some sort of massive drain on costs is a stretch at best. More like the 4G antennae they were using would have been an absolute joy for Apple I'm sure given the next to nothing cost in today's tech world.
Don't include the old stuff, give us the new stuff. Charge us more than any other phone manufacturer you're going to anyway.
I can never have too many chargers. Especially if they're better than the useless 5V/1A crap Apple pushes.
What comes to AirPods, I'd say you found the useless crap. Bought the originals, returned them immediately. Bought Pro's, a month later the sound distorts heavily on one, and the other takes absurdly long time to connect to my phone if I put it in my ear only when someone is calling. Had to disconnect and forget it from all of my other devices as I had real trouble even getting it to connect to my phone.
Seriously disappointed with that junk. Especially considering the price. Meanwhile my Plantronics Voyagers work perfect after a year of heavy use. Will see if I can return the damned Airpod Pro. They're useless.
There's a huge difference between "a long time" and "never". I'd take the 5W charger any day over no charger at all.
I also don't see Apple lowering their prices so cutting those off will go straight to their profit and force the buyers to spend quite a lot more to even be able to use their phones. Again, for example I sell my old chargers with my old phones. I don't have a single one "extra".
Also, I don't really appreciate having to pay 1200e for a phone and then spend another hundred to buy a charger and three hundred more for headphones. That's more expensive than a regular Macbook Pro. I'm just waiting for the to start charging 50e extra for the box.
4th: Get rid of iPhone. Buy a phone that comes with a charger, a cable for that charger and a headphones. Instant savings, especially considering the other phone probably costs quite a bit less than your new state of the art iPhone.
It's cute how you want to justify their price increases so hard. Who expects them to LOWER their prices, really? I'm pretty sure the iPhone 12 follows the previous "let's take the price of the previous model and slap a nice increase on the price because it has this or that bell and/or whistle".
I'd switch to SE in a heartbeat if it didn't have that mediocre battery. 11 Pro max barely survives a full day in my use. That's the only reason for me to have it. I can live with the smaller screen. The camera is so poor I only use it in an emergency so losing those 2 extra cameras means nothing to me. But losing almost half of the battery life - hell no.
The spin will naturally be eco - - saving untold thousands of tons of e-waste from eventually going to the dump.
But the buy-in will come from making the customer an active participant in customizing their own iPhone package.
Apple will make it super easy to click on the particular combination of accessories that each customer wants, and they will be shipped alongside your new iPhone in it's new sleek box.
If you order the standard configuration (EarPods + 5W charger) the price will be the MSRP quoted by Apple at the launch event and on their website.
If you order just the iPhone with no accessories, the price will be ~$50 less, and your new iPhone will be shipped to you in it's new sleek box.
If you order AirPods and/or a wireless charger or fast charger, ~$50 will be deducted from their price, and they will be shipped alongside your new iPhone in it's new sleek box.
This is a win for customers in customizing their iPhone "package" to their own needs, a win for Apple because it encourages the upsell to their premium headphones and chargers, and it is a win for the planet in cutting needless waste.
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Totally agree that IF Apple is going to remove the charger from the iPhone 12 package, it will happen in a way similar to this. Kind of like how they figured out how to sell the Watch as the main unit, with separate band options that you can customize to get what you want. It also would make sense if they’re going to launch a line of AirPower-like wireless chargers. It will make it easy to put together a package that gives people exactly what they want.
The world of smart phones is definitely at the point where huge numbers of people don’t need new chargers, or headphones with each new device they get. Of course there will be people who SCREAM that Apple is doing this to simply add to their bottom line, but those people will complain about everything Apple does or doesn’t do.
A word to these people - Apple doesn’t make decisions solely because of profit. If they did, why would they invest in solar and other non-petroleum-based energy, which costs FAR more than simply doing what everyone else has been in using existing energy sources.
Of course they’re not going give away products for free - they’re a for-profit company, but things they do are at such huge scale that even small things like removing a charger from an iPhone box will have huge effects on shipping costs (and the energy it takes to ship an iPhone), even if it’s only for a small percentage of units sold.
I don’t know if I understand your tone. For me none of these things are going to chase me to android. I honestly have no real problem with iphone pricing. I just think that removing earpods and lightning cables are somewhat logical, but the lack of block seems to bring about problems.
Yes, your previous chargers will work fine. You will need a new charging cable IF the new iphones have a USB-C port. You'll need a MALE USB-A to a USB-C male.
No, simply virtuous. And definitely not something to be pitied.
I use the earphones to be honest and another cable is always handy as I seem to lose them. I’d rather keep the accessories and not have 5G this year as it’s likely to be crap for most.
Love how it’s portrayed that they are leaving it out of the box to keep costs down despite the obscene profit margins already on these products lol.
Love how it’s portrayed that they are leaving it out of the box to keep costs down despite the obscene profit margins already on these products lol.
Yeah because you are in touch with the average person aren’t you?
If you are able to spend $135k on a car, you’re not going to worry about paying more for certain accessories are you? You are in no place to judge people who are nowhere near your wealth level about what they see as value for money. You didn’t impress anybody here it’s worth pointing out.
Although it won't affect me personally, as both the charger and earbuds from my iPhone are still in the box, untouched, I feel like it's common courtesy to include everything you need for your product to work.
Also, it kinda messes with the re-sell value of accessory-less iPhones. Right now on the used market, there's a significant price difference between "just the phone" and "phone + charger + earbuds (unused), all in the original box". After this move, why would anyone care about phones with original box if there's only manual in there, if that.
Also, it kinda messes with the re-sell value of accessory-less iPhones. Right now on the used market, there's a significant price difference between "just the phone" and "phone + charger + earbuds (unused), all in the original box". After this move, why would anyone care about phones with original box if there's only manual in there, if that.
You really think someone is going to be totally okay with dropping $1500 on a phone that they really want, but is going to revel and walk out the door phoneless because of $30 for a charger? And walk away from iOS and go get an Android phone instead? I find that highly unlikely.
It is hard to believe that anyone thinks that Tim Cook is going to walk out onto the stage next month and say that.
An awful lot of FUD is promoted on MacRumors, but this is one of the most ridiculous.
Where's the marketing angle?
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It's going to go down like this:
The spin will naturally be eco - - saving untold thousands of tons of e-waste from eventually going to the dump.
But the buy-in will come from making the customer an active participant in customizing their own iPhone package.
Apple will make it super easy to click on the particular combination of accessories that each customer wants, and they will be shipped alongside your new iPhone in it's new sleek box.
If you order the standard configuration (EarPods + 5W charger) the price will be the MSRP quoted by Apple at the launch event and on their website.
If you order just the iPhone with no accessories, the price will be ~$50 less, and your new iPhone will be shipped to you in it's new sleek box.
If you order AirPods and/or a wireless charger or fast charger, ~$50 will be deducted from their price, and they will be shipped alongside your new iPhone in it's new sleek box.
This is a win for customers in customizing their iPhone "package" to their own needs, a win for Apple because it encourages the upsell to their premium headphones and chargers, and it is a win for the planet in cutting needless waste.
I didn't say they owe me anything? But what do I owe them? Consumers can be bothered that companies want to give them less for the same or more 🤷♂️
It's true that we all can and should be bothered by companies that provide products that offer less features for more money. But jumping to the conclusion that this is what Apple is going to do with the new iPhone is foolish conjecture.
Apple may not be known for offering / selling low priced products, but they do very often make improvements changes and sell the products for the same amount as they did previously, which is not getting less for the same or more, but rather the opposite.
It will be interesting to see what they do with packaging the charging block, or not, this year. It will either make a bunch of people mad or be a unique shift in expectations for how we buy iPhones / chargers.