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[RUMOUR] No PPC 7457's in new PB's
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Re: Motorloa doesnt deserve my custom
What apps do you need that OS X is missing? You will likely find that's not an issue. (And OS X has apps like Final Cut that have no equivalent on Windows.) See: http://osx.hyperjeff.net/Apps/ and: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/ (VPC is handy--I use it, while my actual PC collects dust--but very slow. Cheapest answer: hang onto your old PC a while.)
Also, note that you aren't limited to choosing an Apple base station--others are cheaper (and may handle simultaneous users less well, but you probably wouldn't care). One good thing about the Apple base station, though: it has a USB port so you can connect many common, cheap USB printers directly to it--wireless printing without the cost of a wireless printer!
What apps do you need that OS X is missing? You will likely find that's not an issue. (And OS X has apps like Final Cut that have no equivalent on Windows.) See: http://osx.hyperjeff.net/Apps/ and: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/ (VPC is handy--I use it, while my actual PC collects dust--but very slow. Cheapest answer: hang onto your old PC a while.)
Also, note that you aren't limited to choosing an Apple base station--others are cheaper (and may handle simultaneous users less well, but you probably wouldn't care). One good thing about the Apple base station, though: it has a USB port so you can connect many common, cheap USB printers directly to it--wireless printing without the cost of a wireless printer!
hahaha, this is too much. It's been 9 + months since the last revision, and at first we figured "well, that's ok because soon we'll have G5 powerbooks." Then, Apple squashed that hope, and people started saying "well, I don't care, I'll take a new G4 with the 7457 as long as they just release it!"
And now... we've been waiting all this time so that Apple can release a 7455 again? they could have done that in January to bring the Tibooks up to par with the 12" and 17"... so we waited all this time for.... NOTHING.
Oh well, maybe in another 9 months we'll have a G5 powerbook and be done with motorola for good. But I'm not counting on it.
And now... we've been waiting all this time so that Apple can release a 7455 again? they could have done that in January to bring the Tibooks up to par with the 12" and 17"... so we waited all this time for.... NOTHING.
Oh well, maybe in another 9 months we'll have a G5 powerbook and be done with motorola for good. But I'm not counting on it.
Originally posted by pyrotoaster
Given the 970's heat issues, it's unlikely we'll see it
I am curious if you have a source for that because at equivalent clock frequencies the G5 is roughly like a G4. Plus the lack of a G5 cache helps reduce the heat.
This is an urban legend as far as I can tell.
oh.....my...GOD!!!!
please tell me this is a sick joke or something.....after trawling the rumour sites for months now, al i want is a new 15"AI powerbook!! come on, there must be some MAJOR problems for this thing to be delayed, i cannot wait until seybold or macworld paris....
come on apple, release SOMETHING...even a tin box with a mini-C64 inside....hmmm actually, not a bad idea........
please tell me this is a sick joke or something.....after trawling the rumour sites for months now, al i want is a new 15"AI powerbook!! come on, there must be some MAJOR problems for this thing to be delayed, i cannot wait until seybold or macworld paris....
come on apple, release SOMETHING...even a tin box with a mini-C64 inside....hmmm actually, not a bad idea........
Re: Re: Motorloa doesnt deserve my custom
However in the field of Information/Entertainment software I am pretty sure the choice is limited when compared to the PC market. For example can I get the CD from the British National Gallery for the Mac?
Dont bother checking for me I can clearly do that myself, but that is the sort of software I think may be lacking.
I would be very happy if you could show me where to get the equivalent of an Apple Airport Extreme with Modem for less money.
Also the USB port does sound very useful.
No I am not a student ... I dont think many UK students can afford a PowerBook (I certainly couldnt 15 years ago)
I don't have any particular application requirements, and I have no doubt that there are tools available to accomplish whatever I may need to do.
However in the field of Information/Entertainment software I am pretty sure the choice is limited when compared to the PC market. For example can I get the CD from the British National Gallery for the Mac?
Dont bother checking for me
I can clearly do that myself, but that is the sort of software I think may be lacking.I dont have any windoze apps which require high performance, so I would prefer to give away my old PC rather than have to synch it.
I would be very happy if you could show me where to get the equivalent of an Apple Airport Extreme with Modem for less money.
Also the USB port does sound very useful.
No I am not a student ... I dont think many UK students can afford a PowerBook (I certainly couldnt 15 years ago)
It is interesting that the G5 is not all that much more power hungry than the current G4's. A G5 Powerbook arrival is going to be gated somewhat by the performance of the support chips. This is where we have little information.
It would sem to me that this newest revision to the G4 sould be a bit more power effiecent. This is a good thing if the apply some of that power budget gain to higher clock rates and a faster GPU.
A 970 based Powerbook may very well be waiting in the wings, but it is very likely that the motherboard layout is a bit differrent than the current G5's. If nothing else they may drop the bus interface ratio to conserve power.
Thank
Dave
It would sem to me that this newest revision to the G4 sould be a bit more power effiecent. This is a good thing if the apply some of that power budget gain to higher clock rates and a faster GPU.
A 970 based Powerbook may very well be waiting in the wings, but it is very likely that the motherboard layout is a bit differrent than the current G5's. If nothing else they may drop the bus interface ratio to conserve power.
Thank
Dave
For the love of God, this is getting ridiculous. A 7457 update is really the only acceptable PowerBook update. If it's another 7455, then screw it. My 1 GHz TiBook already gets hot enough (hotter than any 12" PB) and I don't need it getting hotter by adding an extra 250 MHz to the clock speed. I sincerely hope Steve just says to everyone at the Paris Expo that Apple is getting sick of Moto and they're switching entirely to IBM. Add AltiVec to the Gobi G3's for the iBooks and eMacs, put low-clocked G5's in the iMacs and PowerBooks, and the world will be whole again. If Motorola is going to have the same supply issues again as they have been having, it simply isn't worth Apple's time or money to invest any more of either into them.
Pardon my exasperation, but I'm really very annoyed.
Pardon my exasperation, but I'm really very annoyed.
If the next PowerBooks can deliver increased speed without sacrificing battery life--which is what we'd expect from a 7457--then that could be a fine update, even if what's in there is a 7455B.
We just don't know what the specs will be, yet--or whether MacB is even correct.
We just don't know what the specs will be, yet--or whether MacB is even correct.
Re: Re: Re: Motorloa doesnt deserve my custom
Yes, you can get the National Portrait gallery catalog CD for mac.
Pardon me, but the airport thing, you seen to contradict yourself. First it seems you are complaining about the airport base station increasing your costs, but here you want us to show you a technically equal solution for a lower costs, and your "tone" suggests that it can't be done. If the airport base station is the best solution at the best price AND it has the ability to add a usb printer for wireless printer sharing that you were unaware of, making it and EVEN BETTER solution for the price, where's the problem?
Originally posted by Felix_the_Mac
I don't have any particular application requirements, and I have no doubt that there are tools available to accomplish whatever I may need to do.
However in the field of Information/Entertainment software I am pretty sure the choice is limited when compared to the PC market. For example can I get the CD from the British National Gallery for the Mac?
Dont bother checking for me
I would be very happy if you could show me where to get the equivalent of an Apple Airport Extreme with Modem for less money.
Also the USB port does sound very useful.
Yes, you can get the National Portrait gallery catalog CD for mac.
Pardon me, but the airport thing, you seen to contradict yourself. First it seems you are complaining about the airport base station increasing your costs, but here you want us to show you a technically equal solution for a lower costs, and your "tone" suggests that it can't be done. If the airport base station is the best solution at the best price AND it has the ability to add a usb printer for wireless printer sharing that you were unaware of, making it and EVEN BETTER solution for the price, where's the problem?
While the 7457 would be nice, I'd still be happy with a 12" 7455 with L3 cache!
Come on Apple, just release them!
Come on Apple, just release them!
Who's going to want the 7457 when they come out, because in about a month after they come out we will have PB G5's
You could be right.
My evidence is the fact that the only 970s being used in G5 machines do run hot. That said, IBM could very well produce rumored 1.2 or 1.4 GHz processors that draw less power and actually run just fine in portables.
But if Apple has access to laptop-ready 970s, why would they put G4s in the next Powerbooks?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Motorloa doesnt deserve my custom
The airports are actually not great performers for 802.11g, a netgear wireless router is a LOT cheaper and is the top performer. The airport is really advantageous for 2 reasons... 1, built-in modem if you need one (which I believe he does), and 2, it has wireless bridging with other base stations. If you're not interested in either of those (which I'm not), then you're way better off buying something else.
Originally posted by panphage
Yes, you can get the National Portrait gallery catalog CD for mac.
Pardon me, but the airport thing, you seen to contradict yourself. First it seems you are complaining about the airport base station increasing your costs, but here you want us to show you a technically equal solution for a lower costs, and your "tone" suggests that it can't be done. If the airport base station is the best solution at the best price AND it has the ability to add a usb printer for wireless printer sharing that you were unaware of, making it and EVEN BETTER solution for the price, where's the problem?
The airports are actually not great performers for 802.11g, a netgear wireless router is a LOT cheaper and is the top performer. The airport is really advantageous for 2 reasons... 1, built-in modem if you need one (which I believe he does), and 2, it has wireless bridging with other base stations. If you're not interested in either of those (which I'm not), then you're way better off buying something else.
Couldn't agree with you more. I'm really wanting a powerbook, but if they don't deliever the goods I'll probably just wait until Mac World this January and if I'm still dissapointed with powerbooks, I'll get a Rev B G5 tower.
I would just love to have seen some of the conversations between Steve and the head of Moto H/W! Still in all of this Apple has stayed profitable ... and kept most of us reading rumors sites far more than is healthy!
Surely though Apple wouldn't release powerbook revisions in Sep and then new models again in Jan 2004?
Surely though Apple wouldn't release powerbook revisions in Sep and then new models again in Jan 2004?
Wow this is bad. We can expect Jobs to go on a psychotic killing spree at Motorola soon.
But on the bright side considering the circumstances the courts may only give him a slap on the wrist.
But on the bright side considering the circumstances the courts may only give him a slap on the wrist.
You obviously haven't had a Mac for a long time.
My first Mac, a 1992 Mac Classic II, still runs just fine. My first Powerbook, a 165, works too.
A new Powerbook will probably work for four to five years, it'll just get outdated in that time.