Running Photoshop, video editing on new Macbook

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  1. tylerdw89 macrumors 6502

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    Do you think Photoshop and doing basic video editing will work well on the new MacBook? I'm not familiar with the Core M and what it is (and isn't) capable of.

    Also- this I may have missed, when will the new MacBook be available in Apple stores? From what I see, it just says "coming soon".

    Thank you for any responses!
     
  2. yemble macrumors newbie

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    Somewhere between an i3 and an i5. So, no - not well. Stick with an air or i7 pro.
     
  3. Billy95Tech, Mar 16, 2015
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    Since the Core M is between the I3 and I5 core then it will be capable of running Photoshop and video editing. :)

    Core M It will be way more capable more usable doing heavy demanding tasks like Photoshop, Video editing then the I3 Core, Atom but it will be less capable doing those tasks then a I5/I7 Core.

    And it will give you lots more and better battery life then the I Core chips and since the Core M is smaller there will be a lot more lighter weight and thinner laptops, 2-1's, Hybrid, tablets in the future. :)


    Hope this helps! :)


    I really can't wait till the Windows 8 tablets with the Core M come out in the future!! :D
     
  4. Hankster macrumors 68020

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    I can run Photoshop and iMovie on my 2010 MacBook Air. So, yes the new rMB should be able to handle Photoshop and iMovie fine.
     
  5. mtneer macrumors 68020

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    Do you depend on using Photoshop for your livelihood? Then it would be absolutely nuts to depend on the new MacBook for your production machine. If you are a hobbyist and want to use Photoshop in a pinch to do some work - sure, it can take it. Just don't expect it to be fast and easy to connect to cameras and peripherals without tangling yourself in dongles.
     
  6. djbuu macrumors member

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    While I agree that someone using Photoshop for their livelihood shouldn't buy a Macbook, it's not because it can't run it or run it well. It's because the size and portability of the notebook isn't conducive to using Photoshop for 8 hours a day.

    There are plenty of design firms that use 7-8 year old Macs and use Photoshop all day on them. These firms absolutely use these programs for their livelihood. To think a 2015 notebook couldn't handle Photoshop is just plain wrong.

    People seem to look at what configurations are currently available and think that because this Macbook is intended for portability with a Core M chip that it can't run anything. That line of thinking is just plain wrong. Stop it already.
     
  7. dexterbell macrumors 6502a

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    Thats a loaded question. What will you be doing exactly? I do photo/video work professionally. If you are opening a JPG file and doing light editing and working with 720 video in iMovie with a few transitions, sure. If you are doing graphic design work, batch processing hundreds of photos, working with full sized RAW files, plug-ins and multiple layers and uncompressed 1080p or 4k video files, not a chance. The new rMBP 13 with the i5 dual-core and Iris 6100 can't even handle that.
     
  8. dexterbell macrumors 6502a

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    Maybe opening one small to medium JPG photo at a time in Photoshop with minimum layers and editing. I do this for a living. The uncompressed RAW files from my Canon 5D MKIII are roughly 30MB EACH Trying to run a batch process of hundreds of these in Photoshop CS6 would destroy a 1.1GHz Core M with an Intel Graphics 5300 card. Its just not happening at all. My late 2013 iMac with a 3.4GHz i5 quad core and GTX 775m with 2GB dedicated graphics hardly does this. The Macbook will be able to run Photoshop, but very lightly. Not nearly well enough for any pro uses.
     
  9. djbuu macrumors member

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    You're only proving my point, not countering it. Do you honestly think an ultra portable laptop is intended to be batch processing hundreds or raw files? LOL. Are you even listening to yourself? You're even hedging your position by saying things like "very lightly." Well I guess compared to batch processing hundreds of raw files, EVERYTHING is light.

    The product isn't designed to be batch processing hundreds of files. The original poster asked if he can run photoshop and video edit. The answer is a resounding yes to that question. And no it will not be "sluggish" or "underpowered" for those uses. It will run just fine.

    And just to add one final point. 30mb raw files from DSLRs aren't new. I've been batch processing them for years. 2008 called and wants your terrible argument back.
     
  10. Cloudsurfer macrumors 65816

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    I have edit videos on far less hardware, so yeah the MacBook should do fine.
     
  11. dexterbell macrumors 6502a

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    He didn't state what type of work he will be doing in Photoshop. I stated several times it should be fine for light use in PS. If you think it will be capable of doing anything more than light editing with smaller files, very few layers and plug-ins, you will be pretty disappointed. Here ya go

    http://9to5mac.com/2015/03/16/macbook-12-benchmarks/

    "If you want to do anything more demanding than writing and Internet use, this is probably not the MacBook you’re looking for."
     
  12. crucius macrumors regular

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    What computer do you currently have? I have a mid-2010 13'' MBP and I edit RAW files (Canon 7D) in Lightroom without a problem (I don't batch process them, though, I do it one at a time). I also edit video with Premiere but I find that I just can't edit smoothly 1080p videos.
     
  13. Cloudsurfer macrumors 65816

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    Actually, judging from that chart it performs comparable to the 1.4GHz Haswell i5 found in many entry level Macs. That should make the rMB ideal for cutting videos on the go.

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    The Core 2 Duo is notorius for having trouble handling 1080p, especially 60fps. I use Proxy's to make things go smoother, but it's not an ideal situation.

    At any rate, not only is Core M twice as fast as Penryn, it has all the goodies of Broadwell such as Quick Sync hardware encoding. That should make editing 1080p a piece of cake for the new rMB.
     
  14. maflynn Moderator

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    I think it all depends on the size/complexity of your work. Yes, PS will run, it will execute, but how fast will it be is the question. You may find the performance to be lacking.

    I guess in these situations, its best to try it out at home and see for yourself, if it doesn't work out, then return the laptop.

    Personally, I think it will be too slow.

    I run Lightroom and PS on my surface pro 3 which is a dual core i5, and its noticeably slower then my 2012 rMBP.
     
  15. dexterbell, Mar 17, 2015
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    The real issue for video editing will be the 5300, it doesn't perform very well at all. The benchmarks are awful. Combine that with a 1.1GHz M and yeah...like I said, it will only be good for light editing in Photoshop or iMovie. It beats me why anyone would want to pay $1300 for bottom of the line internals, especially with a small 12 inch display. The Macbook should be like $899.

    http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-HD-Graphics-5300.125576.0.html
    http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Intel+HD+5300
     

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  16. djbuu macrumors member

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    To be fair, your video benchmark link compares the 5300 to DESKTOP class graphics cards, most listed are very high end designed for GAMING and more power than anyone uses on a normal basis.

    It's not an apples to apples comparison (no pun intended). This is why the benchmarks look so "low."

    The right comparisons not listed here are Intel HD Graphics 5300 (rMB) vs the 6000 (Air) vs the Iris 6100 (13" pro) or the GeForce GT 750m (15" Pro).

    You will find the comparisons between those to be what you expect, but not as ridiculously unbalanced as your link shows.

    The Intel 5300 will be more than enough editing movies and Photoshop. Your overuse of the word "light" is troublesome. You could edit all day in Photoshop with a 5300 card with no issues because people have been doing it for years with far lesser specced machines.
     
  17. fisherking macrumors 601

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    we definitely need to see/hear real-world use on the new macbook. wait for that... (altho my guess is: photoshop will be ok, video editing will be a bit cumbersome).

    but as a logic X user, i am waiting to see how the macbook does for real...
     
  18. dexterbell macrumors 6502a

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    Ah ok, you are right about the chart. By "light" use, I mean someone shouldn't expect to be using 30 layers or tons of plug ins or batch processing hundreds of large files or real graphic design work in PS. On the video side, even my 2015 rMBP 13 would stutter playing back 1080i MP4 video during editing in iMovie and exporting even in medium quality took double the length of the clip and thats with a better processor, higher clock speed and superior graphics card. Guess we will just have to wait for real world tests when its out. I think most people are aware the new Macbook will basically just be for internet browsing, Youtube, emails and writing or spreadsheet work.
     
  19. Cloudsurfer macrumors 65816

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    I edit on a Core 2 Duo with a GeForce 320m. It's not perfect, but if it works on this hardware, Core M should run circles around it.

    At work I edit on a 13" MBP 2014 base model and have no issues with stuttering to be honest.
     
  20. djbuu macrumors member

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    Will you stop with this absolutely insane argument about batch processing raw files? You absolutely should not be buying a rMB if you want to do this. In fact, the best product for doing this is the 15" MBP with its dedicated GeForce card.

    And while we are at it, let's stop saying "we need to wait for real world tests." WE DONT! That's like saying we need to wait for real world driving tests to see if the new Mercedes C Class can drive me to work every day.

    We don't need to wait. Stop with the garbage arguments.
     
  21. Pootan macrumors member

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    I was editing 1080p for film and tv when software were pre openGL and openCL support. It will depend on how your NLE is configured, of course on a dedicated editing suite the video processor and video ram will count for more, but it won't matter for editing home videos, weekend indie films, or youtube. So no, it won't have problems unless you are doing serious visual effects, at which point the bigger draw back will be the small screen.
     
  22. artivideo.nl macrumors 6502

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    do you have a camera that can record in 1080p at 60 fps ???


     
  23. SchneiderMan macrumors G3

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    Yes it'll handle it, but it won't be lag-free.
     
  24. AdonisSMU macrumors 603

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    I had a 2010 11" MBA and it ran photoshop just fine. The screen real estate was a little sparse but otherwise it was fine.
     
  25. Cloudsurfer macrumors 65816

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    Multiple, actually.
     

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