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Running Photoshop, video editing on new Macbook
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For me, I need the MB to cull pictures and make some basic edits on stills, this is something that I can do now on an iPad. As far as videos, I want to back-up to a mobile LaCie SSD drive and to Dropbox, which the MB should do nicely. The size and weight of the MB should make it ideal in the field. I am guessing that most editing programs will run on the MB, but the MB is probably not the best platform for all day work nor for complex editing. Still, I anticipate the MB to be part of my arsenal.
Those two articles are somewhat contradictory, with the second article being most pessimistic. One of us early adopters is going to see how it performs in real life with: PS, LR, Photos, Aperture, FCPX, etc.
Mine will be in silver.
Mine will be in silver.
According to Apple's promotional materials the new MacBook will be capable of running iMovie for basic video editing.
https://www.apple.com/uk/mac/imovie/
According to this the new MacBook will meet the recommended requirements for Photoshop. https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/system-requirements.html#Photoshop%20CC%202014%20system%20requirements%20and%20language%20versions
In my opinion the new MacBook will handle both these programs quite well as long as you're only using them at the level of an average consumer. iMovie is fine for basic video editing, but if you require FCPX you may need to wait for benchmarks and reviews. My educated guess is that the rMB will not perform nearly as well as the rMBP in heavier editing scenarios. Basic iMovie edits should be fine though.
Photoshop really again depends on the size of your workload. If you're a professional photographer my advice would to wait for reviews before making a purchase decision. If you're a hobbyist then the rMB should be fine enough for an ultra-portable solution.
And the rMB should be available on April 10th from Apple, and very soon after from other retailers.
I don't think the new MacBook will handle Photoshop, Final Cut Pro X, Sony Vegas and other graphic intensive programs well. I mean it will be able to handle for instance very light tasks on Photoshop. Heavy stuff will slow it down and the performance will be poor. Maybe you'll find that at first the new MacBook will perform certain graphic softwares fine because it's brand new but a couple of months later, you will experience lag.
That said, I don't understand why those who do photo and video editing would even think of getting the new MacBook. The softwares you use are processor intensive softwares. It just does not make any sense. I get that some of you want portability, but in my opinion it's not worth it. Performance should come first.
That said, I don't understand why those who do photo and video editing would even think of getting the new MacBook. The softwares you use are processor intensive softwares. It just does not make any sense. I get that some of you want portability, but in my opinion it's not worth it. Performance should come first.
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I have PSE and FCPX on my 2014 11" MBA and both run pretty good, but the question is why on such limited machines?
I edited a 3 minute video with music, simple scene fade transitions and a very basic title and credit and it did fine. The reason I did it was because I needed it done and I wasn't at my desktop. There was no shaking, delays or any signs of CPU over work. I don't even remember the fan coming on. FCPX is actually quite an efficient program when CPU use is mentioned.
Now there is one program which never fails to heat up the CPU on both my MBA and my quad core i7 16 gig 1TB + SSD 2102 mini, Handbrake. When rendering a video to another it always maxs out the cpu. The only difference is in rendering times between models. The nice part about OSX is it seems to handle other programs quite well while Handbrake is running.
How will the 12" rMB work? Quite well!
I have PSE and FCPX on my 2014 11" MBA and both run pretty good, but the question is why on such limited machines?
I edited a 3 minute video with music, simple scene fade transitions and a very basic title and credit and it did fine. The reason I did it was because I needed it done and I wasn't at my desktop. There was no shaking, delays or any signs of CPU over work. I don't even remember the fan coming on. FCPX is actually quite an efficient program when CPU use is mentioned.
Now there is one program which never fails to heat up the CPU on both my MBA and my quad core i7 16 gig 1TB + SSD 2102 mini, Handbrake. When rendering a video to another it always maxs out the cpu. The only difference is in rendering times between models. The nice part about OSX is it seems to handle other programs quite well while Handbrake is running.
How will the 12" rMB work? Quite well!
For me, I would be happy to have the MB back up my SD drives and transfer video to a portable SSD. I won't be using the MB for video editing and not anything but a quick cull and basic edit for a still. I will continue to use my iMac for everything else. I also plan to use the MB as a travel device unrelated to photography or video.
Thats what I was saying earlier, sure it will run it but not very well. The brand new rMBP 13 I had for a day before returning it didn't even run iMovie that well. I had a 24Mbps 1080p video in MP4 format and it stuttered when playing it back in the preview window of iMovie. Then it took nearly double the length of the clip just to export the clip to the default medium 1080 setting in iMovie. That was with a superior CPU/GPU then what is in the Macbook. So sure, you might be able to edit in iMovie, sitting around for 20 minutes while you're 5 minute video exports won't be too fun. Especially when you won't be able to do much of anything else on the Macbook because iMovie is using up so much of the memory.
I don't know why people don't get this.
Will it fly? Probably not. It won't be nearly as fast as a maxed out Quad-core i7 rMBP with 750M, but it will certainly get the job done.
I agree completely. I get so tired of people thinking that one must use the very best tool for the job to get the job done. It may not be the fastest but, in a pinch, it will do just fine. Being able to do the processing anywhere because of the extreme portability of the new rMB is worth some of its limitations to some people.
I expect to use Handbrake quite a bit... but that's software that I will let work overnight, while I sleep.
I'll be very pleased to have the power of a MBP from four or five years ago (or whatever it is) working for me in my silent 5W rMB.You can't process anywhere with a MBP? That extra 1.5 pounds going to break your arm? Its so funny how some people in here swear that carrying around a 3.5 pound laptop (which is still very light and portable) is just backbreaking. Like they are walking for 50 miles and its just going to be the end of them. So dramatic LOL
You can't process anywhere with a MBP? That extra 1.5 pounds going to break your arm? Its so funny how some people in here swear that carrying around a 3.5 pound laptop (which is still very light and portable) is just backbreaking. Like they are walking for 50 miles and its just going to be the end of them. So dramatic LOL
It's also dramatic to act like anything that doesn't have a quad core or a 15" screen is a waste of money. Especially when almost every Mac owner knows nothing about the computer they own and use it to probably 1/4 of it's potential. Practical will always be better than buying the best. People on this forum act like they speak for Mac users, 98% of Mac users aren't even members of this forum.
I don't know about "almost every Mac owner," but I'd agree with this, and be willing to guess that the majority of Mac owners only use a fraction of their computer's potential.
What I wonder is if Apple knows this... If they monitor users' usage, and use that data to design products like the rMB, tailoring its potential to actual usage.
There must have been something else going on. I edit 1080p in FCPX on both a 2010 MBP and a 2014 MBP (both 13") and have no problems with stuttering playback (though I have to use Proxy's on the 2010).
Also, what format were you exporting in? I have no experience with iMovie but since it's a consumer grade editor I assume it's h.264, which should be lightning fast in single pass due to hardware acceleration. Multi pass is a different story, but even a Mac Pro can be brought to its knees with h.264 multi pass encoding.
Running Photoshop, video editing on new Macbook
I had a MBA which I used Photoshop and a video editing software on. It was a nightmare. Multiple layers was impossible, playback was choppy, among other things. It used to always stutter and the whole laptop was very laggy after almost only a year. So now I have a MBPr.
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In the end, we can all agree that there are going to be numerous threads next month where users complain about performance issues and how disappointed they are with the fact that their new MacBook does not run complex programs as well as they hoped.
I had a MBA which I used Photoshop and a video editing software on. It was a nightmare. Multiple layers was impossible, playback was choppy, among other things. It used to always stutter and the whole laptop was very laggy after almost only a year. So now I have a MBPr.
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In the end, we can all agree that there are going to be numerous threads next month where users complain about performance issues and how disappointed they are with the fact that their new MacBook does not run complex programs as well as they hoped.
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I think it's instructive and helpful to go back to 2008 and look at what Steve Jobs really pulled out of that envelope. 2GB of RAM, soldered to the board. 80GB HDD. 5 hour runtime. Core 2 Duo CPU running at 1.6gHz. No optical drive, which was a big thing back then - he spent five minutes explaining why it didn't matter because you could download software by wifi. And the price: $1800, that eighteen hundred dollars. (!)
Put in context, the rMB looks pretty good! The development of the MBA is also fair warning to those of us who are thinking about buying one that the next few years may bring massive improvements to the rMB.
Put in context, the rMB looks pretty good! The development of the MBA is also fair warning to those of us who are thinking about buying one that the next few years may bring massive improvements to the rMB.
Not trying to antagonize, but what configuration were you running? The MBA should have no problem running these apps at all.
Yes, and those same people need to look in the mirror and blame themselves for purchasing a device that did not meet their needs. You don't purchase a two seat sports car and get upset because it doesn't fit your family of four (plus a dog).
Certain people are selfish and centric they assume all products and services must be specific to their needs. The world does not function in that capacity.
Yes because you know more about photoshop than Adobe does...
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I had the very low end 2010 11" model myself and I worked at NYT and never experienced a problem with photoshop. In fact, it my 11" MBA ran photoshop and other programs better than the company issued brand new 13" MBP I had received so much so that I stopped using it and only used my 11" MBA. I can't speak to what the other guy is talking about.