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Apple doesn't make any money on free updates. Are you willing to pay them? I doubt it.
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Apple doesn't make any money on free updates. Are you willing to pay them? I doubt it.
Something funny about your test...
You know how IE is supposedly the fastest on the PC side? Well 0.9.1 certainly changed that situation
Oddly enough, IE is almost 50% slower (15 secs vs. 10 by Firefox 0.9.1).
*If it wasn't for test 6's obnoxious 4.7seconds, Firefox would have broken the 6 second mark.
You know how IE is supposedly the fastest on the PC side? Well 0.9.1 certainly changed that situation
Oddly enough, IE is almost 50% slower (15 secs vs. 10 by Firefox 0.9.1).
*If it wasn't for test 6's obnoxious 4.7seconds, Firefox would have broken the 6 second mark.
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coolfactor said:
When was the last time you paid for a browser? When was the last time someone even tried to ask you to pay for a browser? Other than Opera, I can't think of any others... Safari should separate the "functionality" of the browser and the rendering engine. Better yet, they should just use the mozilla engine... hehehe.
Apple had to do something with the Javascript engine if they are going to implement Konf, err, I mean the Dashboard.. without speed improvements, dashboard would be exceedling slow on anything but the fastest Macs.
When are apple going to implement Undo...??! I cannot believe Apple still have implemented this in Safari - mind boggling. Also, per-website pop-up and cookie suppression like Mozilla has.
I still think Safari is a really good browser, but the above, especially Undo is very much needed.
When are apple going to implement Undo...??! I cannot believe Apple still have implemented this in Safari - mind boggling. Also, per-website pop-up and cookie suppression like Mozilla has.
I still think Safari is a really good browser, but the above, especially Undo is very much needed.
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Stella said:
"Mind boggling", eh? Shouldn't you reserve that kind of dramatic speech for things like "lack of css support" or something more critical?
What would you even use Undo for. "Oops, I opened a Tab"? "Oops, I went to Yahoo instead of Google"?
I don't think I get it.
The worst part is that Safari 1.2 is so slow to begin with! Mozilla and IE were both signficantly faster (nearly 50% faster on my dual 800).
(And to make it even worse the "FlopFive" on there are all Mac OS, Safari).
Apple needs to get their act together here and make Safari REALLY competitive.
(And to make it even worse the "FlopFive" on there are all Mac OS, Safari).
Apple needs to get their act together here and make Safari REALLY competitive.
coolfactor said:
I am. I have grown to hate this, I expect it for nothing attitude that he dot com era has brought us.
That being said, it's a browser and if they want it to be a standard, they should offer free upgrades. Might be tough given how integrated into thr OS Safari is.
Any updates to safari are a good thing by me. Generally its a great browser but there are times when it just slows down to a crawl and drives me insane, particularly the tab switching thing. Also if you try and have too many windows with movie trailers from Apple.com it gets unhappy and decides to quit.
However we must remember it is still young and getting better and better.
However we must remember it is still young and getting better and better.
That's cool. I checked Safari 1.2.2 versus Camino 0.8 and got some interesting results:
Safari 1.2.2 = 123 seconds
Camino 0.8 = 15 seconds
Impressive? To get Java 1.4.2 to run in other than Safari browsers use this http://javaplugin.sourceforge.net
Safari 1.2.2 = 123 seconds
Camino 0.8 = 15 seconds
Impressive? To get Java 1.4.2 to run in other than Safari browsers use this http://javaplugin.sourceforge.net
I'm with you here. i can't believe this hasn't beeen implemented in safari yet. I'd also like actual cache control. As it stands, Safari is a woefully dumbed down browser (and the only browser I use that still crashes regularly).Stella said:
It's actually not a real MS thing to tie software to an OS. It's more of an Apple thing.
MS Office 2003: Windows 2000 and above
Media Player 9: Windows 98SE and above
Internet Explorer 6 SP1: Windows 98 / NT 4 and above
Direct X 9.0b: Windows 98 and above
I think Apple is the one dropping the ball on this one. We need to not point fingers and MS here and realize that Apple is screwing the customers when it comes to OS upgrades.
MS Office 2003: Windows 2000 and above
Media Player 9: Windows 98SE and above
Internet Explorer 6 SP1: Windows 98 / NT 4 and above
Direct X 9.0b: Windows 98 and above
I think Apple is the one dropping the ball on this one. We need to not point fingers and MS here and realize that Apple is screwing the customers when it comes to OS upgrades.
soosy said:
Sabbath said:
Seems some people on here have problems with safari's speed and stability. There are things you can do to speed it back up immensely, as well as lessen how often it crashes. I've done all of these and have noticed improvement each time in speed, and I very rarely crash it. I'm running 10.2.6 in a Beige G3 upgraded with a sonnet encore G4 700 and 320 ram and I regularly have around twenty tabs open.
turn off favicons permanently:
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20040323144305318
increase bookmark menu speed:
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20040123235252498
eliminate cache:
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20030216085845456
empty and turn off autofill for 'other forms:'
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20040324004506941
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Memory Leaks?
It seems like each version of Safari bring improved robustness and more features. Still, I run across sites that just won't open or generate weird errors that I can't get around.
Has anyone noticed a "memory leak" type problem with Safari? Sometimes, it seems like Safari continues to take more and more system memory until it either crashes or I do a reboot.
Overall, Safari is a neat piece of software, but still has a way to go before I can get rid of my other browsers.
It seems like each version of Safari bring improved robustness and more features. Still, I run across sites that just won't open or generate weird errors that I can't get around.
Has anyone noticed a "memory leak" type problem with Safari? Sometimes, it seems like Safari continues to take more and more system memory until it either crashes or I do a reboot.
Overall, Safari is a neat piece of software, but still has a way to go before I can get rid of my other browsers.
AppleMatt said:
Most Mac browsers (including Safari) don't let you hit backspace (called delete on mac keyboards, del is called forward delete) to go back a page. So this problem never happens.
There was a long and heated debate on the Camino dev mailing list arguing for and aqainst allowing the delete key to go back a page. Against must've won, since you still can't use the delete key to go back. If they haven't implemented it yet they dont intend to, it's litterally a 30 second task to add a keybaord shortcut to a Cocoa app. You don't even need the source code, just developer tools.
nsb3000 said:
Sometimes there is: technologies within the OS are used, and if those things aren't present--or are different--then the engine or the app may break. Thus, if Apple makes an app that uses an OS's new technologies, users of older OS's must stick with the older app version. Makes sense to me.
I'm rolling with 640 MB of RAM on a 933mhz G4 so I think I'm doing ok...maybe I'm just running too many other programs at once. Maybe it's just a freak problem with this version that will go away--not bothering me too much though
Are there any other browsers out there that let you view RSS feeds on the fly like 2.0 is going to? I'm not sure I'm going to use the RSS feature that much, unless I'm trying to compile research.
Are there any other browsers out there that let you view RSS feeds on the fly like 2.0 is going to? I'm not sure I'm going to use the RSS feature that much, unless I'm trying to compile research.
Huh. I don't what gives, if Mr. Fella is getting 113 seconds on his 1 GHz PowerBook. I have a 1 GHz 12" 768 MB RAM, and I scored 62.01 seconds.
Nope, you don't get the idea of Undo ;-)
You type in to a text area in these and other forums... you accidently delete your whole text, say - I've done this accidently... and your stuffed.
Undo...
Better CSS support will come in time... anyway, isn't Safari's better than IEs?
You type in to a text area in these and other forums... you accidently delete your whole text, say - I've done this accidently... and your stuffed.
Undo...
Better CSS support will come in time... anyway, isn't Safari's better than IEs?
mainstreetmark said:"Mind boggling", eh? Shouldn't you reserve that kind of dramatic speech for things like "lack of css support" or something more critical?
What would you even use Undo for. "Oops, I opened a Tab"? "Oops, I went to Yahoo instead of Google"?
I don't think I get it.