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Okay. So, when people invest their money in expensive things, and then, being stuck with the thing they bought, like it or no, feel the need to go online and debate over its worth in order to justify their purchase decisions, I understand that. I don't like it, but I understand it, because you have to find a way to have what you love and love what you have.

But this stuff is free software. Both Safari and Firefox have a lot of developing power behind them; they both have solid, growing fan bases. There's no danger right now that either is going to somehow cost the other enough market share for its creators to throw in the towel. And any day that you like, and decide that you're tired of the experience you're getting from one, you can freely (and quickly) switch to the other (or any one of a number of other browsers for that matter), without in most cases even losing your bookmarks!

I mean, don't get me wrong. I love Safari 4 with Glims. It meets my speed, customization, and attractive, matching UI needs completely. And sure, if someone tells me they wish Safari were more customizable, I'd point them toward Glims. But I'd point them toward Firefox too; it meets my needs just as well 99.9% of the time. And I cannot fathom how it in any way diminishes me or the software I like that others use something different.

Use Safari, or Firefox. Use Chrome or Shiira, Camino or OmniWeb, or iCab. Use IE5 with Tasman for all I care! If you feel it saves you time, or makes your browsing experience better, more power to you. But you know what else saves time? Not fighting on a forum about why YOUR browser choice is not only better for you than any other, but why it's better for everyone else.

And don't tell me your reasons for saying it's better are objective, because even if one is objectively faster, you're still subjectively choosing to value that most.
 
Use Safari, or Firefox. Use Chrome or Shiira, Camino or OmniWeb, or iCab. Use IE5 with Tasman for all I care! If you feel it saves you time, or makes your browsing experience better, more power to you. But you know what else saves time? Not fighting on a forum about why YOUR browser choice is not only better for you than any other, but why it's better for everyone else.

And don't tell me your reasons for saying it's better are objective, because even if one is objectively faster, you're still subjectively choosing to value that most.

Comments like this are really really useless :eek:

Would you try to convince a girl that thirty pairs of shoes are at last enough? Or girls should not talk whenever about their boyfriends?

Naturally not, it would be useless. :p

This is a happy useless browser war and everybody know it and nobody needs reasonable arguments about waste of time. :D
A happy useless browser war is never (always) waste of time. :eek:

Cheers
 
I switched over to FireFox today from Safari (latest build).

Simply put, I am getting way too many beachballs from Safari.

Yes, Safari runs faster than Firefox from the get go, but Safari becomes a turd for me when I have more than 5 tabs open, with 2 windows. It makes my whole OS crawl (MBP 13" w/4GB ram). I'm assuming that there's a still a huge memory leak with flash and Safari on Snow Leopard (I'm using 10.6.2 with updated Safari/Flash), but for the time being, Firefox seems to be more stable and reliable. I just use the "Foxdie" theme, it makes FF look like Safari -- I don't even miss Safari at all :)

Safari has been a pretty terrible experience for me ever since going to Snow Leopard.
 
I use both Safari 4 and FFX 3.3.5, and prefer FFX.

FFX, for me, is...
- Customizeable
- A tad more compatible w/ specific edu websites I use(ie. Blackboard, Turnitin.com, etc.)
- Themes
- Most important is compatibility w/ Google Gears under Snow Leopard (Gmail Offline, Google Docs, etc.)

Safari is...
- Faster
- More streamlined
- Fully integrated with OSX

Between speed and compatibility, I'll take compatibility b/c the difference in speed is literally less than a second or two. I think FFX 3.3.5 is probably the best version of FFX to date, and the best is yet to come. Safari 4 is great too but it just doesn't have the plugins or compatibility that FFX gives me.
 
Safari performs much faster than Firefox. It's not a split second difference at all. Safari renders pages faster and Javascript benchmarks place it ahead of Firefox by a non-negligible amount. I enjoy it's beautiful page rendering and UI. It's not as customizable as Firefox though.

Firefox does have many useful plugins, like the Adblock or ClicktoFlash, but it doesn't do what a web browser does the best, and that is, load web pages. Once you add more add-ons/plug-ins, the speed tanks. I think Webkit is a better render engine than Gecko.

^ Regarding that comment above about specific educational sites like Blackboard, I use that for my AP Physics class and Safari has zero trouble with it. Don't know about Turnitin, but I do remember using it once or twice in the past.
 
What about Opera?

I had the newest Opera installed, and opened it now to see why I didn't use it more. It crashed within 10 secs. Opened again: same thing happened. Same the third time.

Granted, this seems Flash related (and I'm using the 10.1 beta), but still, I don't want to fool around with software to get it to work.

That being said, historically my main problem with Opera on Mac has been that it just doesn't feel very Mac like. The same is true with Firefox. Right now I use both Chrome and Safari, and of those I think I lean towards Chrome, even though its a developer version, and Safari has more features.
 
i currently use firefox but will likely drop it the second chrome gets a decent adblocking extension
 
@SnowLeopard2008

Safari is faster (for now). Chrome is what I have my eyes on, though. I have the Beta and it's pretty quick but it looks like another 6-8mo before Google has public beta even available.

Honestly, it's all personal preference. I think FFX 3.3.5 is probably the best version of FFX to date for the Mac, and can't imagine using anything but FFX right now. The customization is the real draw for me, plus the lack of Gears support in Safari 4 is another push. Gears support is crucial for many ppl (like me) who use Gmail and Docs.
 
They are all just web browsers at the end of the day, I just tend to use whatever comes with the Operating System.
 
They are all just web browsers at the end of the day, I just tend to use whatever comes with the Operating System.

Ewwww - Internet Explorer on Windows is yucky.

Firefox here but I've noticed 3.5 is not very stable since I upgraded to SL. It crashes occasionally.
 
What's the Fastest Web Browser for Mac?

I've tried some browsers when I first got my Mac however I was wondering what the general consensus of Mac browsers as of now. I'm currently using Camino 2.0.1 (which is a competent browser) but I was wondering if there was anything that's faster.
 
None are faster to the point where you'd notice.

The difference between the browsers with "modern" javascript interpretation and the ones that don't have it probably crosses into notice-ability.

If you look here...

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/833146/

The difference between Safari or Chrome and Opera is pretty dramatic. But you're right in the sense that the difference between the latest Safari and the latest Chrome is marginal.
 
I understand. I'm just wondering because in a way I want to switch from Camino (lack of plugins and add-ons), but also kinda don't (since it's so light-weight).

I'd say you're in a tough spot then. Plugins will "slow down" any browser somewhat; but again it comes down to if you notice or not. The best thing to do is just to try other ones out; it's not like anyone is pressed for hard drive space these days.
 
I'd say you're in a tough spot then. Plugins will "slow down" any browser somewhat; but again it comes down to if you notice or not. The best thing to do is just to try other ones out; it's not like anyone is pressed for hard drive space these days.

Yeah I compared Camino and Firefox. It turns out that Firefox was usually faster. But when Camino was faster it was really noticeable (try going here with Firefox). Not only that but Firefox just loads awkwardly pages awkwardly. When it loads on a long page (I.E. Message Board) it seems to always jump in the middle or even at times bounce around the page while loading, Camino on the other hand just stays in one place.
 
Is there any way in firefox or safari, to reveal 'short url' direct in address bar?
I found services for revealing short urls somewhere in a web page, but nothing about address bar.
 
Just switched from Firefox to Chrome.

Much more lightweight, faster and stable than Safari -- why even bother with Safari anymore?
 
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