Safari 4.0.2

mabaker said:
Indeed it'S a 3rd party addon to the system, but then again how would you explain the vast difference of implementation between Safari and Opera? I bet even the Intel users see a difference there.
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There might be a difference in how a browser reacts when a plugin goes amok. At the last WWDC, it was announced that Safari would allow for tabs with plugins that have crashed to be killed without killing the whole Safari app. I don't remember whether that was part of Snow Leopard or Safari 4 in general. I also do not know whether this refers to crashes of plugins or also to plugins that seemingly 'just' use 100% of one core.
The big idea of the Google Chrome browser is exactly that, isolate a plugin to take down at most one tab.

But in general, I see no fundamental difference in Flash between Firefox/Camino on the Mac and Safari on the Mac.
 
PMR said:
Apple has the alternative for slow @ss Office. And since iWork is around, why should they solve MS Office's problems? Where's the alternative for web's standard flash? Is Apple expecting Silverlight to be the next flash?:rolleyes:
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Flash is not really a standard, it is a closed proprietary system. In the same way as Windows is not a standard, it might be predominant but it is not a standard.
And the alternative to Flash is HTML 5, of which Safari/Webkit, Mozilla and Opera have already implemented certain elements.
 
PMR said:
Apple has the alternative for slow @ss Office. And since iWork is around, why should they solve MS Office's problems? Where's the alternative for web's standard flash? Is Apple expecting Silverlight to be the next flash?:rolleyes:
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As someone else said, Flash is nowhere near a web standard. Flash is an ugly 3rd party plugin that made websites a few years ago look 'flashy' but has been replaced by true W3C web standards in HTML5, CSS3, and CSS Animations. These are the standards Apple are supporting, and slowly websites are moving toward these too. You don't need to install a plugin as these standards are native within the browser, so it also means it runs much faster than Flash ever did.
 
Maclver said:
Im on snow leopard and when I downloaded it... and tried to install it said I can't because 10.5.8 is required
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And this is probably a good thing. Snow Leopard doesn't use the same WebKit or the same Safari as Leopard. You wouldn't want to replace them with Leopard versions - you would definitely lose the new features. You might also destabilize the system.

And, by running a hacked-up configuration, your Snow Leopard platform would not be useful for testing your apps (remember why Apple gave you that beta copy?) You wouldn't know if problems were because of an app bug, an OS bug or a bug you introduced by installing an unsupported WebKit release.

Tallest Skil said:
What purple? There's no purple anywhere.
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Could be a mis-calibrated display. I've found that many grays and brushed-metal effects can look purplish if the display isn't calibrated, or if it is calibrated incorrectly.

On the PC laptop I'm using now, with an external display, only the external display has a proper color profile installed (the built-in display doesn't have a profile, and it's not adjustable.) I've found that grays objects tend to take on a purplish cast when dragged to the built-in display.
Macmoney said:
I'm very close to dropping Safari all together:mad:
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Welcome to the club. I only use Safari as an RSS reader, and even that is getting very aggravating (lots of hangng, resulting in force-quitting.) I've moved to Google Reader for most of my feeds, but GR doesn't support authentication keys/cookies, so I still need Safari for some of the feeds I subscribe to.
castlema said:
I am sure that 4.0.2 has many wonderful improvements but I have seen nothing about SnapBack returning to the address bar.
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According to the original article, there should be noting but a few security patches, compared to 4.0.1.
Civic Minded said:
First off I want to thank you for pointing out this problem in a way that actually shows the problem first hand. I showed this to a couple different people who claim that animated gif files have never given them trouble, and it locked them up real quick.
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This is terrible on Apple's part to have let this problem go on and on like they have.
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Have you sent a bug-report to Apple? They might not be aware of this problem.
http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html
 
chelsel said:
Happening to me on almost all sites, including macrumors with Safari 4.02 and a 2009 MP w/ NVidia GT120
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That just looks like a typical LCD issue to me due to the pixel response times not being fast enough to handle scrolling without blurring a bit. thats why you see the red outlines on the letters and blue and red on other things in the pic. i dont really think its a issue with safari. although i could be very wrong.
 
Progress Bar Progress Bar Progress Bar Please

Could they put back the progress bar please please - who do we have to email - this is silly - why would they do that - it was perfect GUI - perfect mac like. Did anyone complain or maybe it was all those netscape people they hired - not a good thing unless they give them the brain cleanse.
 
windon said:
Could they put back the progress bar please please - who do we have to email - this is silly - why would they do that - it was perfect GUI - perfect mac like. Did anyone complain or maybe it was all those netscape people they hired - not a good thing unless they give them the brain cleanse.
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you can have the progress bar in firefox, i do. ;)
 
benlangdon said:
ooooo collisions.
didn't make ff crash, ill try safari

EDIT: hahah safari crashed :p, have to love command option esc though.
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Tried Safari 4.0.2 on my MBP 15, it's running fine with the URL. No crash. So probably the crashes may be triggered by some incompatible plugins or mismatch configurations?
 
I'm confused . . .

I've held off on updating to Safari 4.x due to the comments about tabs
on the bottom and other things. And then I see the note about "new"
color schemes today.

So I went ahead today and installed 4.0 and then the 0.1 and 0.2 updates -
and I have none of these reported "problems" - ?? I still have tabs on top,
and the color hasn't changed - ?? Is this unique to me? Are the tabs on
the bottom some sort of leftover from the 4.0 beta version (which I never
installed)?

Very strange . . .
 
TuffLuffJimmy said:
This has been discussed ad nauseam. It's a webkit update and webkit is used throughout the whole OS.
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There has to be more of a reason than this. If I install the nightly builds of WebKit and then update it through Safari, it does not require a restart. :confused:

After doing some more reading it seems that the WebKit framework and WebKit.app are not one and the same...my bad! :p
 
Hmm, not me . . .

EssentialParado said:
Wow, that stopped Safari responding for a couple of minutes. Surely Apple must know about this?
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So how come I don't see this behavior? I can scroll around, see all the
changing diagrams, go back to the top - no change. Are these problems
configuration-specific? I've got a 3.06GHz 24" iMac with 4GB - and this has
the 8800GS graphics with 512MB RAM.

I'm running (simultaneously) Word, Excel, iTunes, TextEdit, Mail, a cribbage
game, and Safari and Firefox. The only thing I notice is that this elastic
collision demo runs much faster and smoother on Firefox - on Safari, it
starts off smooth, then slows down, then seems to catch up, and it's faster
again. But even at its fastest, it's only about 1/5 the speed as Firefox.

Wonder what's going on?
 
Has there been a problem with Software Update recently? downloading seems to be so god damn slow!

It only took me two minutes to manually download this update but through software update it's saying it's going to take 3 - 4 hours...
 
vanc said:
Tried Safari 4.0.2 on my MBP 15, it's running fine with the URL. No crash. So probably the crashes may be triggered by some incompatible plugins or mismatch configurations?
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i ran it on my 15 mbp also.
made sure i was actually testing 4.0.2 :p

did you actually scroll up and down after it had fully loaded?
it was fine untill it fully loaded, and i started to scroll
 
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