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Safari 4 Beta: Am I the only one who likes it?

just curious. Is Safari 4 beta better than the latest Safari 3? I heard from many users that it is, and just wanted to make sure before I install it and use it fulltime.

Will it break anything like mail.app with growl? Let me know if you guys know of any problems with your system behaving strangely after installing the new Safari 4 beta.

Thanks
 
keekl said:
I miss the reload button (unless I'm not seeing it) and that was the first thing my 8 year old said when he saddled up to try it out, oh and he wanted to know about the "spider button":D
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Look in the address bar to the right of the RSS button. It's quite hard to notice and quite small but now I know it's there, it's not too hard to press if I'm not using the keyboard shortcuts as I usually do.
 
What's with all this "I miss the loading bar"? Don't you guys read the main page?

https://www.macrumors.com/2009/02/25/safari-4-tips-tricks-and-special-effects/

http://swedishcampground.com/safari-4-hidden-preferences

When both set to NO it restores the blue loading bar behind the URL. Also puts a page loading spinner in the tab itself, which looks odd with the new tabs.

$ defaults write com.apple.Safari DebugSafari4IncludeToolbarRedesign -bool NO
$ defaults write com.apple.Safari DebugSafari4LoadProgressStyle -bool NO
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keekl said:
I miss the reload button (unless I'm not seeing it) and that was the first thing my 8 year old said when he saddled up to try it out, oh and he wanted to know about the "spider button":D
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Just go to View>Customize Toolbar and drag the Stop/Reload button to your toolbar
 
MasterNile said:
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Just go to View>Customize Toolbar and drag the Stop/Reload button to your toolbar
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Good luck with that, it doesn't exist unless you've already applied other hacks to Safari (specifically removing the toolbar redesign).

As has been mentioned, however, many, many times in fact, the stop/reload button is still there, it's just inside the address bar on the right, just like in Mobile Safari on the iPhone/iPod touch.

jW
 
I like Safari 4 for the page rendering speed. It's the fastest browsing I've had on my Mac. I almost like Top Sites, except it doesn't play well with MacRumors! If you don't immediately go to MacRumors and view the forums after Top Sites showing it, you lose all your "unread" posts because you "visited" the site through Top Sites.
 
agree with the stop/reload button. It's in the wrong spot.
i see no reasons to change the position and separate it from the rest of the commands.
as a minimum, allow users to put it back where it belongs (without hacks)
load.
also a more obvious loading bar would be nice. just put it in the status bar, so it doesn't take extra space and is optional.
how do you submit suggestions/comments (i am assuming it's different from the bug report.
 
It's great but for two things.

- Bring back blue loading bar.
- Separate traffic lights from tabs somehow. like adding them into a darker indent as the 'plus' symbol to add another tab is.
 
Safari sucks, i load 9 tabs faster in firefox than 1 on safari 4. And i just hate safari overall, the design and most of all the adress bar, when i click on it not all of the url is selected, nothing is selected.
 
I still prefer the tabs where they are on Safari 3, and 4 is a little too buggy for me at the moment.
 
I'm OK with S4.

My only gripes are that the space bar no longer moves the window down one page at a time and the delete key no longer moves back one window.
 
Bill P. said:
I'm OK with S4.

My only gripes are that the space bar no longer moves the window down one page at a time and the delete key no longer moves back one window.
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I'm running Safari 4 and those keys work fine for me (if by delete you mean backspace).
 
I love Safari 4 too and have switched over from Firefox 3.

But I have really been spoilt by FF3's address bar. So the address bar in Safari 4 is the only thing that I don't like about it.. Other than that, I love Safari 4's simplicity
 
I like it a lot now. 4.0 got me to switch from 2 years of firefox. Love Safari, love the tabs location and I did a few hacks to get back the stop/reload button next to the arrows and re-introduced the blue loading bar...
 
212rikanmofo said:
just curious. Is Safari 4 beta better than the latest Safari 3? I heard from many users that it is, and just wanted to make sure before I install it and use it fulltime.

Will it break anything like mail.app with growl? Let me know if you guys know of any problems with your system behaving strangely after installing the new Safari 4 beta.

Thanks
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It's more enjoyable, much faster and much more memory-efficient for me.
A few unfortunate bugs on my machine:
  • it broke saving of mails from Mail.app
  • the DivX plugin isn't activated when needed (S4 uses Quicktime instead)
  • The currency converter widget's calculations are messed up

Can't think of any other problems, right now.
 
i think its nice, it takes awhile to get used to it. But i'm slowing turning off more and more of the new features.

I'm still using ff3 for web development, but safari's new toolset looks interesting.
 
i like it. But man, RAM usage is just crazy. I have two tabs open and it is at 250 MB Ram. That's crazy.
 
After using it for a while, I had to switch back to Safari 3, which was a shame because I loved it overall. There were a few problems with it though.

I like the new tab placement, however it makes moving tabs around a pain, because if you don't grab the corner of the tab it assumes you want to grab the whole window. There's other places I can grab the Window, so I'd like to be able to grab the tab anywhere.

I miss the loading bar in the address bar so much.

The stop/refresh button is in a really dumb place.

I could deal with all this, but unfortunately Safari 4 has a bug that prevents it from caching images, and my website happened to fall victim to this bug. Waiting for the images to load every time was unacceptable, so I switched back. Once I know this bug is fixed, I'll go back to Safari 4.
 
After putting the loading bar and tabs back to their classic selves, I love S4.

Seriously though, the visual loading bar was one of the distinct features of Safari. It gave the user simple clear feedback of whether or not a website was actually loading and its progress - something that the lack of always makes me want to throw a PC with IE out the window for.

:)

//doobi18
 
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