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Safari constantly times out when loading images...

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yayaba

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For some reason whenever I use Safari on my Macbook, it always times out on images on forums and such. It only loads about half the images in a page before it starts displaying the blue question mark blocks.

When I use Firefox I don't have this problem... only on Safari. It's pretty annoying and because of that it's unusable for me. Has anyone encountered this before?

It happens to me on Safari 2 and 3. I'm on Tiger 10.4.9.
 
I don't have any add ons or anything installed.

I just tried resetting Safari and I thought it fixed it but it didn't.

The problem only seems to appear when I try to load graphic intensive sites like forums that put 100 posts on one page with avatars and signatures. Otherwise with normal browsing, I don't see the issue.
 
I had the same thing

http://www.pixolator.com/zbc/featured2col.php

I made a thread about it but a couple of others had no problem and that was that. Still can't load the whole page in one go. I feel sure it's a cache full issue but I can't see how to increase the cace.

This is on a freshly installed OSX with no hacks.

This is safari 3 beta

EDIT: suddenly it has loaded for the first time, although I had to reload the page twice. Now that I check it couldn't be a cache it's only about 3-4 mb but 1000 thumbnails
 

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Both sites loaded completely, albeit a little slowly for me using Safari 2. I didn't need to refresh the pages. Safari doesn't have a set cache limit like many other browsers, so I'm not sure that's the problem but I could be wrong 'cause I so often am.

Sometimes Safari finds it easier to load sites in an unselected tab. Click on the links you two provided whilst holding COMMAND and assuming you have tabs enabled, see if it loads with no errors. I'm not offering this as a solution so much as a test.

Also, have either of you tried resetting Safari using the Safari menu? :)
 
Tried resetting, no luck. Tried the unselected tab thing and it crapped out half way through.

Although it still does load (sometimes) after the second or third timeout.

Edit, I could load the neogaf site no probs. I don't have safari 2 because I didn't bother keeping it. but FF loads it fine. I could try it in safari 2 on my old cloned drive.
 
OK I just rebooted into Safari 2 and it loaded the Zbrush gallery in 2 mins 30 seconds, against FF's 4 mins 45 seconds

That's Safari 2 on my old cluttered system with hacks, Safari 3 on my new system with no hacks can't handle it in one go.
 
I've got this issue as well; sometimes 90% of the images on a page will show up with a blue question mark instead of loading. I swore there was a setting for timeout, but I don't know where it is.
 
dogbone said:
OK I just rebooted into Safari 2 and it loaded the Zbrush gallery in 2 mins 30 seconds, against FF's 4 mins 45 seconds

That's Safari 2 on my old cluttered system with hacks, Safari 3 on my new system with no hacks can't handle it in one go.
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ur page of http://www.pixolator.com/zbc/featured2col.php loaded here

on netscape 9.0 (with fasterfox extension installed, pipeline setting disable) in 55 seconds, 20 sec with pipeline enable.
on safari 2.0.4 in 1min and 15 seconds
 
i know exactly how to fix your problem you just have to trash safari and go download mozzila firefox. it's way better than safari any way.
 
I should be clear that unlike the OP, I am only having this problem in Safari 3,

does anyone else have 3 loaded to test it?

on a side note I have just discovered that isquint won't work or crashes FF, with google street view unless it is at 100%.

skierdude said:
i know exactly how to fix your problem you just have to trash safari and go download mozzila firefox. it's way better than safari any way.
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As I said, Safari 2 loads the page in 2' 30" against 4' 45" for FFox. It's Safari 3 that needs 2 or 3 reloads. But it is beta I suppose.
 
dogbone said:
As I said, Safari 2 loads the page in 2' 30" against 4' 45" for FFox. It's Safari 3 that needs 2 or 3 reloads. But it is beta I suppose.
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The beta app does have problems, I remember firefox (it was called phoenix at that time) 0.6 has same problem, because of time out, it gave up images after a while, its mostly a problem of network condition. Im sure safari 3's final version will solve this.

again, as I said. on my MB, NS9 (FX2.0.0.4) with fasterfox loaded that page in 20 seconds against safari 2's 1 min 15 sec. (35 seconds with pipeline disable, I just tried again, cache already cleared)
 
Yeah, we can't really complain about betas behaving badly. ;)

I reckon you might be onto something with the timing out issue though. I can't for the life of me remember how to change it from what I think is a default thirty seconds. I did it once before in Safari 1 so I'm not even sure if it'd still apply. I'll have to have a look 'round the tubes for a hint. :eek:
 
Christ on a bike, I just downloaded fasterfox and it loaded the 1000 thumbnails in 25 seconds. I thought you were referring to a netscape addon or does netscape take the same extensions?

What's the catch though? do I have to give up my first born son or what.
 
dogbone said:
Christ on a bike, I just downloaded fasterfox and it loaded the 1000 thumbnails in 25 seconds. I thought you were referring to a netscape addon or does netscape take the same extensions?
What's the catch though? do I have to give up my first born son or what.
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netscape 9 is a slightly bloated firefox. they are using same extensions. :D

basically, it just asks server for more connections.
 
dogbone said:
Christ on a bike, I just downloaded fasterfox and it loaded the 1000 thumbnails in 25 seconds. I thought you were referring to a netscape addon or does netscape take the same extensions?
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Hold SHIFT as you refresh the page to test it without accessing cache, if you haven't already. :)


dogbone said:
What's the catch though? do I have to give up my first born son or what.
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The catch.
 
mad jew said:
The catch.
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pre-fetching is automatically downloading initial links on a page in background, which does not affect when u input a link in the address bar.

there are two parts for fastersfox, each increase the speed by almost 100%, one of them, called pipelining, needs support from server. and apparently that image website supports it.

some tricks from Mozilla.org
Speed up page rendering

By default, Firefox doesn't try to render a web page for 250 milliseconds while it's waiting for data. If you use about:config to add the Integer preference nglayout.initialpaint.delay, and set the value to 0, Firefox immediately starts to display the page, even without complete data. The drawback, especially on slower machines, is that the total time to display the page will be longer.

Enable Pipelining

Pipelining is an experimental feature, designed to improve page-load performance, that is unfortunately not well supported by some web servers and proxies. To try it out, by using about:config to set the following preferences:

network.http.pipelining
Set this to true, to enable pipelining.
network.http.proxy.pipelining
Set this to true, to enable pipelining to the proxy server.
network.http.pipelining.maxrequests
Set this to 8, to have a maximum of 8 pipelining requests at once. Possible values are from 1 to 8.

For more information about pipelining, read the HTTP/1.1 Pipelining FAQ.
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dogbone said:
EDIT: I meant what's the catch *for me*, I don't mind as long as *they* pay the bandwidth. ;¬)
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Well you pay for your own bandwidth too. The effect won't hit you too hard but it will mean your browser is downloading a lot more than it normally would, irrespective of whether you ever see the data. Depending on how good your connection is and what other apps you use, this may or may not be a problem. :)


clevin said:
pre-fetching is automatically downloading initial links on a page in background, which does not affect when u input a link in the address bar.
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Not quite sure what you're saying here mate, sorry. It's probably too late for my small brain to be trundling up and down MacRumors anyway. :eek:

Pipelining is one of the oldest tricks in the book. You can manually implement it on most browsers. As far as I remember, only Opera has it enabled by default.
 
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