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If mine crashes once, i'll usually restart my iPhone and it's fine again until another day.
 
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I had the same problem. I had too many apps taking up memory, delete some from cydia and app store. Worked for me.

I thought only RUNNING apps were the issue. Isn't program RAM entirely different and separate from the storage memory (8 or 16 GB) for music and installed apps?

In my view, you should be able to have 9 pages of apps with NO impact to stability as long as they are not running.
 
Mine crashes several times a day. The more I surf, the sooner it crashes...
Not jailbroken and version 1.
I just think Apple has got a nasty memory bug that they can't seem to work out...
 
My roommate has a non-jailbroken 3G that has the same issues. And it seems like multiple people here are reporting the same problems without having jailbroken their phones. So it doesn't seem exclusively a problem with having jailbroken your phone.

I may try a restore and see if it improves.
 
You know ... I'm starting to notice a weird trend on these forums.

I'll casually mention my battery life "OMG NO WAY!! My battery only last 5 hours. And only when I don't use it!"
I'll say how I don't use a case "OMG! I looked at my first iPhone and it shattered! I had to replace it 5 times!"
I'll describe how I never drop any calls "OMG WHAT!?! I can't EVER complete a call! Not even one!"
Or how my safari doesn't crash much "OMG!! Every day! At least twice a day it crashes for NO reason!"

Why is that weird? Your phone may be flawless but others have issues. I've had pretty good luck with my phones but I've witnessed some pretty serious issues with others.

So if you mention something and somebody expresses dissatisfaction with that feature, offer condolences or move on. It's going to happen. This is, after all, a forum.
 
I thought only RUNNING apps were the issue. Isn't program RAM entirely different and separate from the storage memory (8 or 16 GB) for music and installed apps?

In my view, you should be able to have 9 pages of apps with NO impact to stability as long as they are not running.

Yes, except... the various home menu programs are apparently the culprit. They read in all the info about the programs you have installed, plus their icons, etc, and prepare the menu pages. The more apps you have installed, the longer this takes, and the more memory is used up by the menu program.

There was an infamous bug in a past OS version where Apple must not have tested with a full nine pages of apps. Remember that? There's a watchdog timer that kills any app that doesn't respond in time. With lots of installed programs, the Apple Springboard would spend extra time looking them up. Being so busy, it wouldn't respond in time and the OS would tell it to restart... which just made everything go into a horrible loop of reboots.
 
Not likely!

Mine is jailbroken, so it's probably related.
I don't see a relationship at all! That is Safari crashes all the time on me and my iPhone has never been jailbroken. It is the only app to do that everyday. Mail will lock up every once and a while two but much more infrequently.

Frankly I'm not convinced that a phone restart really helps either. The whole mess is very random and toesnt always make sense. Especially the crashes on simple pages like theses forums.
I just don't see how all of my other apps run great, my jailbroken apps don't cause me any problem, it's just safari.
In a nut shell I blame it on a very buggy Safari.

Now maybe I don't have equally complex apps installed to check it against but many other apps run very well. If it isn't Safari then Mobile OS has some deeper problems. At least that is the conclusion I'd come to right now.
Only other issue is a screen weirdness where sometimes I need to lock and unlock the phone before the screen will come on.

Really, the only thing I like from jailbreaking is being able to keep a background on the screen and PDA net.
I really don't think jail breaking is your problem so I woulnt worry to much about it.


Dave
 
With your attitude no please don't comment on this!

It's "weird" cause a lot of the time it's really just exaggeration or user error.
I'm not sure if you are trying to jerk someones chain or what but crashes are easy to simply count. As to user error, even if that happens apps shouldn't crash.

The OP has a lot of crashing, and it didn't occur to him that maybe the jailbreaking caused the behaviour - I found that funny. No big deal.
Because jailbreaking has absolutely nothing to do with the issue. That is pretty clear from the number of people posting here with Safari crashing on un jailbroken phones.
Then, someone else chimed in with "no, my non JB'd crashes all the time too", which seems "weird" to me since (after 2.2) none of my real life co-workers or friends (about 11 iPhones in total) have this problem. Just some of the people on the forum here. Am I not allowed to make that observation?
Frankly no! The problem is you have tossed out ligitimate observations of numerous people above. You have done so in such a way that it calls into question the accuracy of your statement above.
Maybe they're browsing 9 tabs of poorly designed websites? Maybe they're frantically clicking on the buttons and switching orientation causing the system to choke up? Maybe they're on sites that cause even desktop browsers to crash. Maybe it's the jailbreaking. I don't know what the problem is, it could literally be anything at all. Maybe it's cause I'm not browsing the webz on my phone for several hours a day?
Or just maybe it is a buggy program. In any event if even half of what you describe above is happening Safari still shouldn't crash. Good programming should be able to deal with borked user input. In any event I can assure you that Safari will crash even when the user is extremely careful with input.
Much in the same way some people claim they can barely get a call done without the battery dying, some people claim that Safari is crashing all the time for them. I don't (and no one I actually know in person) seems to have these problems. So it's either lemon units (which could very well be the case - I don't think they're lying) or exaggeration, from where I'm standing.
Lemons are always a possibility!

What I don't like here is got back pedalling as you claim, in the begininng of this message, exactly what you are trying to disclaim above. So you either think people are exaggerating or you don't, but you can't occupy both positions at once in the same reply.
Am I not allowed to observe this? Am I not allowed to comment on it? Some of you guys act like it's cool to think sh*t sucks.
More BS on your part. What I see here is people looking for achnowledgement of their problems and possible solutions. They don't want denial or to be dismissed. What would make many of us happy is simply waking up one morning with a solution to the problem at hand.
I just honesty comment on things (I bitch about Apple too, don't get me wrong) I observe. Sorry if I offended anyone (someone told me to "take a joke" in another thread - guess I'm just paying it forward now).

If there is one problem I've had with iPhone it is a crashing Safari. That is a problem many others seem to have. It is not constructive to jump into a thread and tell us we are fill of crap. Frankly I'm not convinced that we can even trust what you are saying because your comments are trollish.

I'm much more interested to hear how others deal with this issue rather than to have what I experienced dismissed out of hand. Or worst yet have somebody spit out a list of reasons why it is my fault. Notably none of the reasons you list as user behaviours causeing Safari to crash can be even considered as something that should be a problem.

Dave
 
Partially true?

People, more one time. Before installing something from cydia find out how much memory the service it will take. If you are not using SSH turn it off. The apps aren't crashing, iphone OS are shutting down those that wants to allocate more memory.

I don't doubt one bit that Safari is being killed from time to time due to memory conditions. It certainly isn't every case though as I've had Safari crash relatively quickly after a restart. That on what should be simple pages.

More disturbing is that Safari doesn't behave the same way upon every "crash". In at least a couple of cases I've had it trash all my cookies requiring logging back into forums like this one.

I do wish that Apple would offer up more OS tools to help with debut. The OS really needs the ability to send crash reports to Apple like MacOS does. Maybe a couple of million crash reports a day would result in a little more focus at Apple.

Also if the apps are running out of memory why can't Apple build into the OS the ability to display a dialog indicating memory allocation failure, if and when that actually happens.

Dave
 
Safari also crashes like crazy for me. :/ I think it may be just a bug in the software. Meh. Who knows?

Joey

On a side note an iPhone ad came on showing the internet browsing capabilities of the iPhone. Weird...
 
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