Lol, Apple will never support that codec which is an inferior ripoff of H.265. Just because Google paid for VP9, they want to push it on everyone instead of acknowledging that it was a failure and H.265 should be used.
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Safari Users Unable to Play Newer 4K Video on YouTube in Native Resolution
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Lol, Apple will never support that codec which is an inferior ripoff of H.265. Just because Google paid for VP9, they want to push it on everyone instead of acknowledging that it was a failure and H.265 should be used.
That means that hopefully 2017 MBP models will support h265, as the current Skylake models can't decode h265.
Did you copy paste this from the product website?
Buttery smooth? You've got to be having a laugh.
I love Safarim, but if I had a pound for every time I've had to open Chrome because Safari can't handle what I'm trying to do, I'd be rich.
What am I missing? I just played 2 videos in 4K on my 2016 MBP using Safari. I searched "4K video" and played the 2 top search results at 2160p.
As explained in the article, Google switched from encoding in h.264, which Safari does support, to the VP9 codec, which Safari does not support. So older 4K videos will work, but newer ones will not.
Safari has been my preferred browser for the most part ever since it was born, but I won't kid myself — version 10.x has serious issues. It's frequently locking up on me, and you can't ignore the fact that Chrome and Firefox's faster release cycle gives them an advantage. Apple's pace of development feels like a slug next to them.
Care to elaborate? I'm curious to know why Safari can't handle your work. Are you opening 1000 tabs at once?
This is an old story repeating itself. A storm in a teacup being generated by Google because their business model hinges on not paying for technology licenses.
Years ago Google tried to force the royalty free VP8 codec on the public. It lost out to H.264 because the latter offers superior quality and energy efficiency and because the latter was chosen by Apple.
Now Google is pushing the similarly inferior VP9 codec. It will lose out to the superior HEVC.
So the real question is when will Apple officially support HEVC/h.265. And the answer is whenever they decide the time is right to start offering 4K content on iTunes. This will hinge on the wider availability of 4K content and on the availability of sufficient internet bandwidth for content owners and consumers to be able to stream this content at a reasonable cost.
It's also worth remembering that Google aggressively tried to use Flash support as a point of attack in the Android vs. iOS marketing war a few years ago. We all know how that tactic worked out for them.
Does the Technology Preview also support H.265?
If there is one thing that is majorly overdue it's that. OS-level support for HEVC.
Time to gain back some drive space.
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You didn't read, do you?What am I missing? I just played 2 videos in 4K on my 2016 MBP using Safari. I searched "4K video" and played the 2 top search results at 2160p.
It happens from NOW ON, upload a 4K video now and see what happens
YouTube is doing nonsense such as this all the time and it is getting really annoying. They also force 60 FPS on everyone at HD resolution, regardless whether the computer can handle it and regardless of the fact that their servers always have the lower FPS versions available as well (for older browsers). On top of that, their UI is getting worse and worse and they make horrible policy decisions in many areas, most recently with their widely panned ‘YouTube Heroes’ programme and their secretive manipulation of subscriptions to push content that makes them more money.
I would love the Internet to move away from YouTube.
I would love the Internet to move away from YouTube.
I also experienced, that when I change the resolution of a YouTube video in Safari while in full screen, the upper and lower bar won't hide anymore. This issue is consistent for over nearly a year and over multiple machines and even after reseting without restring from an backup.
YouTube changed their video encoding, how is it Apple's problem?
I'm sure Apple will push out an update to fix it, but this is on YouTube's end.
No favicons in the tabs make it an absolute no go for me and my colleagues. How can you work with that and find in 10 open tabs the right one in just a blink?
If you've been paying attention, H.265 licensing is a disaster, even worse than H.264. It's many times more expensive, and there's ongoing issues with separate patent pools and several rightsholders refusing to join any.
Essentially everybody in the computer industry (Intel, ARM, NVidia, AMD, Google, Microsoft, Mozilla, Netflix, Cisco, Adobe, Broadcom) that isn't Apple has decided enough is enough of continual MPEG licensing issues and to go with VP9's successor AV1.
If Apple doesn't support VP9 and AV1, they won't be able to play any video, and I say that's good. Time to knock some sense into AV codec patent situation.
Essentially everybody in the computer industry (Intel, ARM, NVidia, AMD, Google, Microsoft, Mozilla, Netflix, Cisco, Adobe, Broadcom) that isn't Apple has decided enough is enough of continual MPEG licensing issues and to go with VP9's successor AV1.
If Apple doesn't support VP9 and AV1, they won't be able to play any video, and I say that's good. Time to knock some sense into AV codec patent situation.
Were you looking at just any recently uploaded video or were you looking at a recently uploaded 4K video? The latter is what this article is about.
Kaby Lake actually has better support for H.265, so I'm not sure what your point is.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017...st-of-its-kaby-lake-processors-for-2017s-pcs/
"The integrated GPUs support hardware-accelerated decoding and encoding of 10-bit HEVC/H.265 video streams and decoding of 8-bit VP9 streams. "
Tell that to my 50 inch Samsung TV from 2014.
HEVC/H265 is supported. Image quality is great.
How many people work on Safari?
I know it's kind of a facetious question but it seems to progress so slowly compared to other browsers. It feels like there are like 3 people working on Safari but then again, maybe higher ups hold features back for various reasons?
I don't know, I just wish it had more parity engine wise. I run into issues a lot on campus using various services or web apps.
I know it's kind of a facetious question but it seems to progress so slowly compared to other browsers. It feels like there are like 3 people working on Safari but then again, maybe higher ups hold features back for various reasons?
I don't know, I just wish it had more parity engine wise. I run into issues a lot on campus using various services or web apps.
Actually, since Safari 10, Apple made a huge progress on the back-end of their browser.
http://kangax.github.io/compat-table/es6/
If something happens to work bad, it's probably because it was poorly written.
Hey, thanks for sharing that. I see what you mean. I'll be trying it again this semester. Hopefully whatever issues I had are ironed out by now.
VP9 is not a proprietary format, it's open source and royalty free, unlike HEVC/H.265.
H.265 is superior for now, but with the royalty fees and the patent pool licensing BS I look forward to AV1 by AOM which is a product of the work done on VP9 (as well as Daala & Thor).
Apple has hardly support H.265 for years either, H.265 support on Macs will come with Kaby Lake, same as VP9 and the 6S has only been out for a year and a half. I also can't really find anything about H.265 support on the iPhone other than during FaceTime calls, you got any links on that? Would be interesting.