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If this is the case, I wonder why the lottery insists on publishing the info of it's winners. If you could claim a million dollars anonymously, that would be much more in keeping with the attitude surrounding finances.

That is a prize that is won publicly, not a salary that one earns.

A lottery winner, for example, does not have to perpetually publish how much he/she makes off of interest earnings.
Could be. But I'm not an airline pilot, so my pay scale isn't well known. Some of you know what I fly, which is a clue, but the majority seem to think I'm making a quarter M, which I'm not, I promise. :)

I suppose so. I promise I won't ask you, however. ;) :)
 
It's personal because it's one of those things that is no one's business.
I agree, but that's an interesting phenomenon, to say the least. The secrecy of salaries hurts us all; if we were all forthcoming about our wages, no doubt many in society might see an increase in pay. Essentially the secrecy only protects the employers, allowing them to provide unfair wages.
 
I agree, but it's interesting, to say the least. The secrecy of salaries hurts us all; if we were all forthcoming about our wages, no doubt many in society might see an increase in pay. Essentially the secrecy only protects the employers, allowing them to provide unfair wages.

Well it would be nice if employers were required to publish average wage rates (with experience and qualifications indexed accordingly) for various positions, but I don't think we should as individuals have to publicly say how much we make.

Thankfully we have the Lilly Ledbetter Act now to correct for gross pay discrepancies.
 
The weird thing is that I have worked for the government long enough that people knowing my salary doesn't really bother me, since it is publicly available info. All you really need is someone's GS level and location.

I think one good reason to not reveal salary info, at least around the workplace, is to avoid problems with co-workers. I learned this lesson the hard way several years ago. When I was first starting in the IT field, I was a wee little PC/printer tech at a computer repair/consulting company. I had been there about 3 months, and I was talking to one of the other PC techs who had been there about 3 years. Somehow, salary info came up in conversation, and I told him how much I was making. It turned out I was making the same amount he was, and he had been there about 3 years, and gotten a couple of raises along the way. Needless to say, he was not happy. He started going on and on about how he was getting ripped off, how it wasn't fair, etc. More to the point, I had to listen to all this stuff, and it was annoying. It also seemed to affect his job performance.

Now, IMO, there was a reason why he was only making as much as me, and had been passed over for promotion to network tech. All he saw, however, was the owners of the company screwing him over. And, although he never said as much, I think he was a bit resentful of me. So, afterwards, I just kept my mouth shut about salary info.
 
Wow! Back in MY day, I got $5/week. :p :p

I think $1 dollar a week, or 10% percent commission on high ticket items I sold at parents' store, which almost never happened. I think coffee, in a restaurant was 10 cents with free refills. Gas was 36 cents a gallon but I was not old enough to drive though. A dozen eggs was 77 cents and the dow was around 700. Median home price was around 40K USD, 11.5K pounds sterling.
 
I suppose so. I promise I won't ask you, however. ;) :)

Bah. For you, it wouldn't bother me. I've just spent too much time around people that seem fixated on such things, and for my buddies, it really shouldn't matter at all. :)
 
Its a very personal question, and that seems universal. A better question would have been to ask us what jobs we do as that isnt so sensitive and then work it out for yourself... i'm an Ajax programmer who specializes in heuristics so if you cant guess my salary then i really wouldn't recommend you go for a career in IT.
 
Salary should not be a concern. If you want a mac you will come up with the money. It's that way for a lot of things we buy.
Exactly. It's all about priorities.

My best friends probably couldn't guess what I make within about 50%, and vice versa.
And probably don't care. :)

I am 18 and make about $19,000 a year, give or take. I am selling my mac, because I rather have a nicer car.

IE: 2001 BMW 325Ci Coupe
A good example of priorities. :)

Personally, my computer is more important than my car as long as my car works and is safe.

Uhh, 100$ a month from allowance :p
Wow! Back in MY day, I got $5/week. :p :p
What a gravy train! :)

Interesting tidbit: I've never bought an an Apple product new. All of my Macs and iPods have been bought refurb or used, so I don't really care about the higher prices.
Nothing wrong with refurbs or used. You can save a lot of $ that way. :)

I've just spent too much time around people that seem fixated on such things, and for my buddies, it really shouldn't matter at all. :)
Really. When I meet new friends I have them complete an application form that includes all sources of income, to include inheritance. Then I have them estimate how much they will give me over the lifetime of our friendship. When i was single, I also asked if they had any sisters or knew of any hot girls. Now I just ask if they know anybody who will fool around with me.

/extreme sarcasm.

IMHO, friendship has nothing to do with how much someone makes.

Most of the folks that I know who use Macs get them because they like them for whatever reason be it ease of use, eloquent design, lack of malware issues, etc. I am sure some purchase a Mac as a fashion statement, but I've yet to know someone like this.

As was mention above, some finance their Mac purchase. In my case, I save a little each month so that every 2-3 years I can purchased a new desktop/laptop. Sure I could purchase a cheaper PC, but desire to have a Mac so that is what I do.

Regarding salaries, over my lifetime I have worked for bosses who make less than me and some who make a lot more than me. I've known some who make less than what you would expect, but their employers include many benefits and I've seen the reverse. Nothing is locked in concrete. Companies are different. Industries are different.
 
The weird thing is that I have worked for the government long enough that people knowing my salary doesn't really bother me, since it is publicly available info. All you really need is someone's GS level and location.

Agreed...

I have no problem letting people know as I am a civil servant and work at the pleasure of the president, and thus the people. I am a GS 12, step 2 located in the DFW area. OPM has my rate @ $70,808. Though that number is a base because I make more due to overtime pay. In government, nothing is personal...
 
Agreed...

I have no problem letting people know as I am a civil servant and work at the pleasure of the president, and thus the people. I am a GS 12, step 2 located in the DFW area. OPM has my rate @ $70,808. Though that number is a base because I make more due to overtime pay. In government, nothing is personal...

Wait..you get overtime?? I need to talk to my boss about this. I'm only allowed comp time! On the plus side, I have enough time to take off for about the next month or so. Of course, I'm also a lowly GS 9. Now I just need some of those GS11 folks to retire. :)
 
Wait..you get overtime?? I need to talk to my boss about this. I'm only allowed comp time! On the plus side, I have enough time to take off for about the next month or so. Of course, I'm also a lowly GS 9. Now I just need some of those GS11 folks to retire. :)

Count your blessings in this economy.

For many years, people considered those completely unqualified only suitable for civil service thus people thinking that GS-9 is "lowly". No GS job is lowly, it means you are employed!

Equal jobs in the private industry have far less stability and don't pay much more these days than civil service. In some areas, the highest paid jobs in certain disciplines are those of government service. Many people in San Jose/SF ditched their temporary government service jobs (feds, state, city) to pursue their fortunes in dot.com. Those who stayed behind felt bad, initially, for not going for it, but today, the ones with jobs are the civil servants.

People today have a profoundly different view of jobs people once laughed at (retail, civil service, home health care) but today nobody is working for high tech firms or mortgage giants who hand you a Mercedes as a company car or give you bonuses several times one's salary. One company I know, in networking who is no longer in business, once paid their linemen $250 dollars cash every day, each, for lunch money. A rival company gave one of their regular techies a $25,000 dollar single season box seat for the Giants knowing they didn't give a darn about baseball. Some of these technicians, programmers, engineers, and MBAs flaunted their money and looked down on others. People headed to dot.com, while they were still students, talked more about the Italian sports cars they had picked out before they even got out of tech school or college. Those days are long gone. Many who thought this windfall would last forever bought tinderbox fixer-uppers for a million(s) dollars because it was in Santa Clara County. They thought they could afford high end five digit monthly mortgages. People bought cars worth more than houses are today thinking they could make the payments for several years, easy. Rockport walkers gave way to Manolos. Parents thought their ordinary kids could go to high end private schools and this alone would give them a ticket to the Ivy League. A lot of stupid spending pretty much defined the Valley.

In the end, the tortoise won the race. :)
 
Approximately 15k with combined private tutoring and being employed by my university as a tutor
 
Base of ~45. But with overtime I am doing ~110k at my current pace, which would be impossible to keep up. I am on day 29 in a row, with 13 or so doubles in there.

Quitting for PA school where I hope to come out making 70+ base.

I think the important thing is to make saving a priority and live within your income and means.
 
I am 18. Right now I make about $8.00/hr. I am applying for a pharmacy tech job that should pay me at least $12.00 - $15.00.

My parents have always been relatively private about their income until recently. My mom is a business consultant for a hospital and makes close to 100k. My dad is a vice president at an engineering company and makes 3x that.
 
I know this is a personal question but I am really curious.

Apple makes high-end, high-prices products but people still buy them. How much do you guys make a year (estimate)? I don't really care, im just really curious. If you think this is too personal just tell me.
Why are you curious? What answer would you be most satisfied with?

Personally, I get a paycheck and try to pay cash for things. The rest should be of zero concern to anyone else.
 
Enough to spend way too much of it on Apple products since I got my first Macbook in April of last year. It's really quite ridiculous when i sit here and think about it.... It all started with the iphone, which caused me to get intrigued with Mac computers so i made the switch from PC and got a black macbook in april since then I have bought an iMac, Aluminum Macbook, Macbook Air, and next week getting a Macbook Pro w/ 24 inch cinema display. and then I have so many apple peripherals that my house looks like an Apple store (very neat and minimalist though) I don't have all of these computers at the same time though, I sold the blackbook, and gave the unibody Macbook to my girlfriend.
 
20 years old, Industrial Engineering student.

Currently making $27/hr at an engineering internship (equates to about $58,000/year)
 
I make $50k now, but I haven't bought a computer in years. Last time I bought a mac, I financed it, and was making about $18k. I'll probably buy a new computer soon... unfortunately, I'm also going to be taking a new job with a salary reduction to $24k, so looks like I'll be financing again.
 
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