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Samsung Again Caught Inflating Benchmarking Scores, Phil Schiller Calls 'Shenanigans'

gpat said:
Does this seem more of a feature only to me?
When a particularly demanding task, like a benchmark, is executed, the CPU releases more power. I call this "efficiency".
And these numbers came out from the CPU's calculating power, not from nowhere.. how is this fake?
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You missed the point. It's fake just like it would be fake to have a nitrous boost in your car that only works when the dealer takes you out for a test drive. Pretty close to lying, if not the same thing. Definitely misrepresenting their product.
 
no wonder safari seemed snappier :p


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All jokes aside, this is big news, especially for android fanatics that live and breathe through the specs and tests.

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iChrist said:
No, Phil thinks he's awesome. "Can't innovate my a$$", then he shows everyone a trash can.


Anyway. Fat Phil aside, Samsung is failed on so many fronts. To even try this is shady. To think you can trick some of these tech reviewers is completely moronic and I hope they are thoroughly embarrassed by this.
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I call shenanigans on your post.
 
JQW said:
One graphics card manufacturer (I forget which one, although I presume they're now defunct) was found to have hard-coded into their driver code to ensure the particular tests from this benchmark ran as quickly as possible.
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Both ATI and nVidia were caught cheating; it's has totally ruined their business.
 
Not defending Samsung. Cheating is bad any way you look at it. But LOL at people "banning" Samsung products in their house!
OMG!!!:eek: :rolleyes:
 
Again... a "budget" iPhone makes no sense. You can just pick one up at your local AT&T store for less that $200!
 
typeadam said:
Not defending Samsung. Cheating is bad any way you look at it. But LOL at people "banning" Samsung products in their house!
OMG!!!:eek: :rolleyes:
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Well, lots of people claimed they were banning Apple products in their homes because of the Chinese labor reports. So what's the difference?
 
apolloa said:
Apple executive Phil Schiller -- senior vice president of Worldwide Marketing and the most prolific tweeter amongst Apple's senior staff -- linked to the Ars article in a tweet, saying only "shenanigans".

Soooooo..... the executive Of Apple publically slanders it's biggest supplier of components, wow, School boy tit for tat is the Apple way these day's then? They are fast becoming even more hypocritical and truly unprofessional and immature than ever now.
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I am certain of several things:
1. You have no idea what the word slander means
2. Samsung has been publicly badmouthing their biggest customer for years
3. Samsung has publicly been badmouthing Apple customers for years.
4. You seem very willing to defend a corporation that has again been caught red-handed intentionally deceiving the public about the quality of its products.
 
So if we just label all our favorite apps: *popular benchmark name* it will run them in turbo mode?!?! :D

Samsung could have spun this into something smart by giving their users the ability to do this manually for specific apps instead of taking people and tech sites like Anandtech for dummies...

On the bright side, after about 5 minutes of use, Touchwiz looks like Android 2.x and stutters even though it's got a Snapdragon 800...

How about using some of that smart coding to make the OS snappier?

Edit: I still prefer iOS's smooth interface and Google's no frills 4.3 on my Nexus 7^2 - I also save about 3GB of bloat
 
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tongxinshe said:
As a normal customer I don't have enough resource to constantly audit the lies like this one revealed by Ars, so the only safe way for us normal customers is to totally avoid big liars like Samsung.

As to the components inside the product, I have to assume that the component buyers like Apple (as big as the Samsung liars, but yet still much less corrupted) to seriously audit all important aspects of those components, for their own fame.
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My point was that it's silly to get so attached a multi-billion corporation since they're all in it to make money. And the way you typed out your response, it seems like you have blind faith in Apple.

In the graphics industry, both NVIDIA and AMD have made such "optimizations". Are you going to stop buying their products?
 
lkrupp said:
Well, lots of people claimed they were banning Apple products in their homes because of the Chinese labor reports. So what's the difference?
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IDK what the difference is and frankly I don't care. I don't mean to come off arrogant and certainly this is not directed at you but I buy what I want; either b/c of price, features, looks, reliability, etc. Even though I know I SHOULD look at the company behind the products I purchase, a majority of the time I do not.
And no matter WHAT company we stand behind, there will always be something to muddy them. Some more than others. Obviously if a company came out and said they support mass world-terrorism or pro-Nazism, I wouldn't support them (I know - extreme examples, just sayin' though), but you get the idea...
 
TWSS37 said:
Exactly.

But since the unwritten rule of benchmarking is to test the "normal activity" of the device, they are somehow distorted.

I don't know about you, but when I notice the need for power it's because it's lagging or stuttering. That's higher intensity stuff where - wait for it - I'll wait all possible power dedicated to completing the task. I'd rather know what the phone is capable of, rather than someone else's definition of normal usage.
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I was not aware the unwritten rule of benching is "normal activity"

The reason I say this, when people in IT refer to benching, its all about getting the highest score possible, which in terms of benching systems (PCs) is to overclock them to the point of where they are just stable enough to run the benchmark, and not remain stable in everyday use. They even run events to see how far people can OC intel/amd chips etc. Choose OS versions and drivers that deliver the most performance, instead of stability.

Now samsung have been know to be dodgey but these benchmarks mean little to average users anyway, as do hardcore benchmarks
 
apolloa said:
Apple executive Phil Schiller -- senior vice president of Worldwide Marketing and the most prolific tweeter amongst Apple's senior staff -- linked to the Ars article in a tweet, saying only "shenanigans".

Soooooo..... the executive Of Apple publically slanders it's biggest supplier of components, wow, School boy tit for tat is the Apple way these day's then? They are fast becoming even more hypocritical and truly unprofessional and immature than ever now.

I do hope one day samsung would just tell Apple to F Off! Or perhaps Apple feels it MUST slander the competition now seeing as iOS7 is an utter disaster and making people literally sick! Can't remember the last Galaxy smart phone that made people physically sick?

Oh and yeah I work for Samsung and get paid tons of moolah for posting stuff on here :rolleyes:
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LOL, I use Android (Google Nexus 7 and Nexus 7^2) and:

Samsung hardware = awesome.
Samsung software = awful bloatware
Samsung attitude = 15 year old geek...

You defend a company that got caught with it's pants down lying to you and it's customers yet you still align your lips to their butt? That's the best kind of fanboy to make fun of...

Meanwhile Snapdragon 800 running at 2.3 GHz with 4 cores (actually 8 w/ low power cores) < A7 with 2 cores running at 1.3GHz....

Yeah - go look at the benchmarks...

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/0...-apple-lays-groundwork-for-a-brighter-future/

ERMA GERD! :D
 
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