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Isn't this getting a bit ridiculous, Samsung?

Samsung is a display-maker. Apple buys displays from Samsung and LG. Apple is going to use sapphire displays, so Samsung and LG are preparing to make them. What's ridiculous about this?

I know you were thinking that Samsung is copying Apple. Yes, they often do copy Apple and many other companies shamelessly, but this has nothing to do with that.
 
Looks like Samsung's millions of dollars worth of lawyers have you convinced.

Looks like you are brainwashed by Apple, thinking that everything Apple does is innovative. Hail Apple! They invented finger print scanner, mp3 player, camera on cell phone, square with round corners, phone with glass covering the screen, GPS. Hell they invented aluminum. True innovative company.
 
Speaking of copying, please copy and paste this when the MacRumors article appears confirming larger screen sizes, mkay

Sure, because Samsung is the only company with large screen phones (were they even the first major company? Doubt it). Besides having a larger phone definitely showed us Samsung can innovate new technology. By shifting the screen size by a few inches it showed the world Samsung shined and now Apple must follow suit.

I sound ridiculous right? Well, that's exactly how all of you sound when saying Apple is copying Samsung for a bigger screen size.

If Apple had invented Saphire crystal and it was being copied by others, then the bitching and moaning would have some benefit.

But Sapphire has been around for years. Sapphire was not invented by Apple, but by a completely different company. What Apple has done is buy manufacturing capabilities to produce the glass quantities they want.

Why should the company that invented Sapphire "glass" not have the rights to sell that to everyone else?

I don't think anyone is really moaning about the technology/Crystal NOT being exclusive though ( we know it wasn't invented by Apple). My problem is this. . . why is Samsung doing this NOW? Knowing Apple is probably the only phone maker at the moment moving forward with this type of crystal display? If Samsung would've thought about this years ago that would've been innovative. We're not mad at Samsung copying Apple's footsteps we're use to it at this point. It's just funny people think Apple isn't innovative meanwhile it's still always ahead of the curve.

Once Samsung stops attempting to bash it's inspiration (clearly Samsung loves everything about Apple and our community), then I'll cut them some slack. It's just funny that Samsung copies us and then attempts to BASH us publicly. As if they don't blatantly copy the ideas of Apple.

Looks like you are brainwashed by Apple, thinking that everything Apple does is innovative. Hail Apple! They invented finger print scanner, mp3 player, camera on cell phone, square with round corners, phone with glass covering the screen, GPS. Hell they invented aluminum. True innovative company.

Nope they didn't invent any of the tech you listed above. They just invented a way (or several) for the masses to use all of those things in portable devices and in a way that's sleek and awesome in design. You know. . . the Apple way. ;)

Steve (Picasso really) said it BEST: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW0DUg63lqU

Stealing ideas is not the same as copying (and some really don't understand this saying from Picasso)! When you're inspired by a company (stealing ideas) in essence you can make that idea your own. However, when you COPY (Samsung) you're essentially just doing, or attempting everything exactly like it was done before. i.e. their failed and rushed attempt at a fingerprint Scanner. . . . . . :eek:
 
Once Samsung stops attempting to bash it's inspiration (clearly Samsung loves everything about Apple and our community), then I'll cut them some slack. It's just funny that Samsung copies us and then attempts to BASH us publicly. . :eek:

US?... Really?.. us?.. Since when is Apple us?.. it's them. Samsung is them, MS is them..... US is the consumer, them.is the firm!
 
Looks like you are brainwashed by Apple, thinking that everything Apple does is innovative. Hail Apple! They invented finger print scanner, mp3 player, camera on cell phone, square with round corners, phone with glass covering the screen, GPS. Hell they invented aluminum. True innovative company.


Actually I don't think Apple invented those things. You should look up what innovation means.
 
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I don't think anyone is really moaning about the technology/Crystal NOT being exclusive though ( we know it wasn't invented by Apple). My problem is this. . . why is Samsung doing this NOW?

Obviously because Apple might make it popular.

Then again, Samsung doesn't always follow popularity. E.g. Apple made a glass backed phone popular, and yet that design made no sense from a weight or ruggedness or cost standpoint, and Samsung stuck with polycarbonate instead.

Knowing Apple is probably the only phone maker at the moment moving forward with this type of crystal display? If Samsung would've thought about this years ago that would've been innovative.

There have been sapphire phone displays since at least 2004. By that time, no doubt every major phone manufacturer had checked into it.

Certainly Samsung would've thought about using it when they made their LiquidMetal phone about six years ago, as sapphire was expected by then in a so-called "luxury phone". More recently, as the article noted, they checked into sapphire again, but it still didn't make economic sense for them.

Still, if a feature is made popular, then everyone has to revisit their thinking. Think about how many times Apple has said they didn't think a product made sense, but changed their mind later on.

I think a big difference in this case, is that Apple demands a higher profit margin, and is thus expected to also deliver more for the money.
 
Certainly Samsung would've thought about using it when they made their LiquidMetal phone about six years ago, as sapphire was expected by then in a so-called "luxury phone". More recently, as the article noted, they checked into sapphire again, but it still didn't make economic sense for them.

The issue is that Sapphire is more susceptible to shattering than prestressed hardened glass (like Gorilla glass). Watch makers can get away with it in smaller crystals through careful shaping of the crystal internally while maintaining a flat face, and bulletproof vehicle manufacturers laminate layers of the material to take advantage of the hardness while making it much more impact-resistant. None of those techniques are really practical solutions for smartphones. It will be interesting to see how Apple resolved the impact issue - there is enough of a problem with iPhone screens cracking as it is.
 
Very brittle in a drop (like Gorilla Glass). No major gain against shattering screen with sapphire. Even a pane of diamond (screen) would not yield a major gain either.

The benefit is an increase in scratch resistance and maybe the marketing spin of "sapphire" over "glass."

A few here are arguing that this will also bring a thinner "thin" which- I know- is very important to the masses who find the 5s too thick.:rolleyes:

Did anyone have a real big problem with scratches on their iphones? I feel like I've had more of a problem with cracking or chipping with the glass over scratches.
 
It will be interesting to see how Apple resolved the impact issue - there is enough of a problem with iPhone screens cracking as it is.

Or, perhaps Apple will simply not worry that much about impact issues.

After all, they already sold a phone with a glass back, and if you broke it, you paid for it.

It's not their problem if customers don't take good care of a jewel like device :)

Kind of reminds me of the old SNL phone lady skit: "We don't care. We don't have to. We're the phone company Apple!"
 
I'm wondering if vapor deposition of a diamond layer on a gorilla glass substrate wouldn't be a better option; it would be more hydrophobic and far more scratch resistant while providing great impact resistance thanks to the gorilla glass. The diamond crystal would not need to be more than a few nanometers thick thanks to its excellent wear characteristics and vapor deposition on a primary substrate would make it relatively economical to mass-produce.

Heck, next-generation nonstick cookware might not be ceramic - it might be diamond (I am not kidding!)
 
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