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Edit: I drive a porsche cayman, but I honestly haven't seen anyone hostile on the porsche forums towards people who bring up other brands like Maserati, Mercedes-AMG, BMW..etc. Like, what's the deal with smartphones?

Fair point. I’m curious, do fellow Cayman owners on Porsche forums spend 90% of their time...

- Complaining about all the issues they’re having with their cars instead of talking about what they like?
- Hating on the newest Porsche model to come out claiming it doesn’t represent what a real Porsche should be and the company has lost its way?
- Stating Porsche is no longer innovative and other manufacturers are far ahead of them?
- Demanding the CEO step down because he’s running Porsche to make money and not building cars for the customers, who have bought their products for years?
- Let everyone know their current Porsche is the last one they’ll ever buy and they're switching to another sports car because Porsche has let them down?
 
so i saw that Bixby can turn on the flash light... so I picked up my iPhone.. "hey Siri turn on flashlight" --- response: "sorry, but i'm not able to do that". my response "good lord what the f#$k Siri, come on" such a simple task, siri should be able to access all the setting on an iPhone by default
 
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Fair point. I’m curious, do fellow Cayman owners on Porsche forums spend 90% of their time...

- Complaining about all the issues they’re having with their cars instead of talking about what they like?
- Hating on the newest Porsche model to come out claiming it doesn’t represent what a real Porsche should be and the company has lost its way?
- Stating Porsche is no longer innovative and other manufacturers are far ahead of them?
- Demanding the CEO step down because he’s running Porsche to make money and not building cars for the customers, who have bought their products for years?
- Let everyone know their current Porsche is the last one they’ll ever buy and they're switching to another sports car because Porsche has let them down?

1. Complaining about issues, sometimes, but it's usually very civil
2. Hating on the new models, yes actually, a lot of people don't like flat 4s in the new 718s.
3. No
4. No
5. No
 
I hate to bash the whole concept of assistants but they're all terrible in reality.

There are a couple of major factors that will prevent their use possibly permanently.

Human thoughts are never organised. I don't know about anyone else but speech doesn't come out as a perfectly formed thought with all the info parsed into a sentence. I bet typing your comment you paused and deleted a few words. I feel this is the major issue facing assistants that never gets solved. I might say 'can you set and alarm for 15 minutes' most of the assistants will set the alarm not a timer for 15 minutes but any normal person would correctly interpret that.

The other major issue is related to the first. Correcting yourself mid-sentence is something we do all the time but assistants just go loopy.

The last one for me is reliability, we don't judge assistants on what they got right but what they get wrong. If you ask a question and have to restate or simplify it to get the result, then you are unlikely to want to try that function again. It's doubly worse if you need to intervene and triply worse if you then have to correct the wrong action! It's like asking a real secretary to split the bill and half the time will pay for the whole thing. After the first time you're likely never to do that again and maybe consider her/him too unreliable to keep in your employment.

These assistants need to be 95-100% accurate in the understanding and actions whilst also being able to interpret a string of muddled sentences that might correct earlier mistakes. I personally think we are 20-50 years away from even the most trustworthy versions, so bixby version23 and higher.
 
so i saw that Bixby can turn on the flash light... so I picked up my iPhone.. "hey Siri turn on flashlight" --- response: "sorry, but i'm not able to do that". my response "good lord what the f#$k Siri, come on" such a simple task, siri should be able to access all the setting on an iPhone by default

Don’t worry great Siri features coming down the pipeline... in 30 years...
 
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When I read Bixby, the only thing I can think of is this... :D

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so i saw that Bixby can turn on the flash light... so I picked up my iPhone.. "hey Siri turn on flashlight" --- response: "sorry, but i'm not able to do that". my response "good lord what the f#$k Siri, come on" such a simple task, siri should be able to access all the setting on an iPhone by default


That is the difference between Bixby and other assistants. What Bixby does is deep hardware functions. My understanding is that it can pretty much control any of the native functions of the device, and what 2.0 is adding is the ability to integrate better with other apps. For example, I watched a video yesterday and one of the examples they used was "Bixby, take a screen shot and post it on Facebook". A couple seconds later, the prompt to input a comment with the Facebook post was on the screen. Other examples were settings that it might take a bunch of clicks to get to or you don't remember how to do... just say it.

I'll repeat myself again... each assistant is good at different things, so it would be great if they could communicate with each other so that you could talk to one of them, and the request would be passed off if the one you talked to didn't know what to do.
- Bixby - device functions
- Google - search, directions, etc.
- Amazon - shopping
- Cortana - schedule, contacts, etc.
- Siri - dumb party questions

Microsoft and Amazon are already working on this - https://www.recode.net/2017/8/30/16...ration-amazon-microsoft-siri-google-assistant

I doubt that Apple will ever participate in such an approach.
 
Do all refrigerators and TV remotes come with a new big side button? Or is that already ‘in the mail’? /s

The new house we purchased this spring came with all Samsung appliances ... brand new. The handles fell off the fridge and microwave recently, snapped small plastic connectors that are non repairable. The extended warranty representative (the house was on the market for 6 months so the new appliances were just over a year old now) informed us this wasn't covered as it was 'fair wear and tear.' I wish I could have talked to the appliances, I sure have had a few choice words to say to them!
 
Still counts.
ApplePay is susceptible to a similar attack, only it doesn't require the thief to interact with the device.
It's actually easier to pull off than the SamsungPay hack. ;)

The first step in the second attack is for hackers to steal the payment token from a [targeted] victim's phone. To do that, they will use public Wi‑Fi, or offer their own 'fake' Wi‑Fi hotspot, and request users create a profile. From this point they can steal the ApplePay cryptogram [the key to encrypting the data].

Apple states that the cryptogram should only be used once. However, merchants and payment gateways are often set up to allow cryptograms to be used more than once.

As the delivery information is sent in cleartext, without checking its integrity, hackers can use an intercepted cryptogram to make subsequent payments on the same website, with the victim charged for these transactions.

Source
 
The new house we purchased this spring came with all Samsung appliances ... brand new. The handles fell off the fridge and microwave recently, snapped small plastic connectors that are non repairable. The extended warranty representative (the house was on the market for 6 months so the new appliances were just over a year old now) informed us this wasn't covered as it was 'fair wear and tear.' I wish I could have talked to the appliances, I sure have had a few choice words to say to them!

Bixby we need less; quality hardware more!

Was it a “model home” with the contract for sale of the house “conspicuously” noting these furnishings to be “as is” condition, and were you required to ink you initials very near to that statement?

You may be eligible for various remedies here (ask for a free opinion or two from local firms) and you might want to increase Samsung’s attention by posting to Samsung USA’s facebook page (if they have one), local tv, reddit, or just create a custom RSS feed so you can be among the first to post your story on the next 100 articles that pop on any website with a headline on Samsung appliances.

Marketing budget is typically many times bigger than the product repair / cs budget. Let’s encourage improved quality, particularly from Samsung which seems to be racing to gain market share on low costs, at the expense of quality/durability. But their budget for marketing and for Bixby is even bigger than most companies!! lol

Good luck!
 
ApplePay is susceptible to a similar attack, only it doesn't require the thief to interact with the device.
It's actually easier to pull off than the SamsungPay hack. ;)



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Having a jailbroken device seems like some pretty dedicated interaction (option 1). Connecting to random wifi requires some pretty dedicated stupidity (option 2).

I'll give you the points, but I'm still going to say that Apple Pay is secure and Samsung Pay is not.
 
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